hehe I may have to use Access for a few things too soon.
Cold RI nights though, eh? It's like friggin summer now. Yay global warming. I want it to be fucking cold like last year, then I will be in my element! I miss Vermont and subzero winters.
I've got VPC installed with Windows 2000 and Access. Aside from the active-x thing, the other reason you'll never see Access on the Mac is because of "References". These are all calls to Windows-specific DLL's, OCX files, EXE files, etc. It becomes a tangled nightmare when people develop programs and decide to add all this extra functionalily via these "References". As a developer, you can't be sure that all your potential users have the exact same version of all these external files. When these external files get updated, they often change the way the file operates and features you previously expected no longer work. Trust me, you do not want this type of "functionality" on the Mac.
The Mac's application bundles are brilliant in comparison. All files needed for your application to run are distributed together. Yes, I like Access for building nice front-ends to databases and I really like the graphical query builder, but "full" Access compatibility on the Mac would be impossible.
For anything other than a tiny database, Access is garbage.
It's a neat idea that has a terrible implementation and GUI.
AMEN
I took a databasing class last year that had 2 books, a great text on how databases work and the standards, and the second "lab manual" for the class, a teach yourself access book...the standards were nothing like the access implementations...and dont get me started on the SQL capability inside of access...oh the humanity!
Look. The MacOS X 10.4 DVD installsOpenBase on your system. I do not know the names of its files on the distribution DVD, nor do I care. If you want to use OpenBase, install MacOS X 10.4 and use it. If you want to "look" for it, then that's your privilege.
To clarify, it is WebObjects from the developer tools that installs OpenBase, not OS X itself. You have to install more then just 10.4 to use it.
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hehe I may have to use Access for a few things too soon.
Cold RI nights though, eh? It's like friggin summer now. Yay global warming. I want it to be fucking cold like last year, then I will be in my element! I miss Vermont and subzero winters.
The Mac's application bundles are brilliant in comparison. All files needed for your application to run are distributed together. Yes, I like Access for building nice front-ends to databases and I really like the graphical query builder, but "full" Access compatibility on the Mac would be impossible.
Originally posted by kim kap sol
For anything other than a tiny database, Access is garbage.
It's a neat idea that has a terrible implementation and GUI.
AMEN
I took a databasing class last year that had 2 books, a great text on how databases work and the standards, and the second "lab manual" for the class, a teach yourself access book...the standards were nothing like the access implementations...and dont get me started on the SQL capability inside of access...oh the humanity!
Originally posted by Mr Beardsley
You have to install the developer tools and WebObjects to get OpenBase. Then it will be in your Applications folder.
Thanks for the information. Your reply makes it clear where to find OpenBase and I appreciate that.
I looked through the WebObjects documentation and it seems development versions are free but deployment versions, come with OS X Server.
Originally posted by Mr. Me
Look. The MacOS X 10.4 DVD installs OpenBase on your system. I do not know the names of its files on the distribution DVD, nor do I care. If you want to use OpenBase, install MacOS X 10.4 and use it. If you want to "look" for it, then that's your privilege.
To clarify, it is WebObjects from the developer tools that installs OpenBase, not OS X itself. You have to install more then just 10.4 to use it.
Originally posted by PBG4 Dude
To clarify, it is WebObjects from the developer tools that installs OpenBase, not OS X itself. You have to install more then just 10.4 to use it.
To doubly-clarify, it all ships in the same box.