Should I install Parallels or Boot Camp

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  • Reply 41 of 70
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ThinkingDifferent

    One reason I am hesitant on Parallels is it's dependence on the Mach architecture. Which in itself is not bad but there have been rumors that Apple is thinking about moving away from Mach.



    Where did you hear that? I'd say there is a greater chance for you to spot Bigfoot while on a camping trip then there is for Apple to ditch Mach within the next five years.
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  • Reply 42 of 70
    xdanielxdaniel Posts: 29member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Splinemodel

    Where did you hear that? I'd say there is a greater chance for you to spot Bigfoot while on a camping trip then there is for Apple to ditch Mach within the next five years.



    There have actually been a few rumors lately that Apple is indeed unhappy with the Mach kernel. It is a very good kernel for portability, but it is known to be quite slow. Microkernels in general are slower. There are a few Mach kernel derivitives that are a good deal faster than Mach (i.e., L4 and its derivatives).
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  • Reply 43 of 70
    elehcdnelehcdn Posts: 389member
    I am using both BootCamp and Parallels on my Intel MacMini Dual. USB Activesync with both my hx4700 WM2003 and my Cingular 8125 WM5 device works flawlessly, as do all other applications that I have tried. I have a friend who is a dyed in the blue Windows XP user who has made the switch due to the Intel DualCore. He tells me that WinXP runs better and faster in DualBoot than his other PC's (he is not gaming, but he is running image and video apps).



    I am also running Parallels Beta6 to run Quicken and Outlook Express (for MS Exchange newsgroups). It works fine for those apps and for Windows without any performance issues. This version is supposed to doing a better job of dealing with USB as well. I managed to get one sync with my WM2003 device, but couldn't get it to sync my phone. I also had subsequent problems with WM2003 syncs, so I have gone back to using BootCamp for all of my PPC synchronizing.



    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kishan

    The whole PDA sync issue seems very complicated under parallels. Unfortunately, this is about the only thing I need windows for anymore. I guess bootcamp might be the way to go then since I would essentially be booting up a second computer altogether.



    Am I correct in assuming that in BootCamp, the Windows installation talks to the computer hardware natively without any emulation? So anything plugged into the USB ports should be able to speak directly to Windows. This might be the better solution for me.



    PS: 300th post!




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  • Reply 44 of 70
    I think a bunch of people have had issues w/ various syncs, but hopefully these will all be fixed in the final release.
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  • Reply 45 of 70
    kishankishan Posts: 732member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by elehcdn

    I am using both BootCamp and Parallels on my Intel MacMini Dual. USB Activesync with both my hx4700 WM2003 and my Cingular 8125 WM5 device works flawlessly, as do all other applications that I have tried. I have a friend who is a dyed in the blue Windows XP user who has made the switch due to the Intel DualCore. He tells me that WinXP runs better and faster in DualBoot than his other PC's (he is not gaming, but he is running image and video apps).



    I am also running Parallels Beta6 to run Quicken and Outlook Express (for MS Exchange newsgroups). It works fine for those apps and for Windows without any performance issues. This version is supposed to doing a better job of dealing with USB as well. I managed to get one sync with my WM2003 device, but couldn't get it to sync my phone. I also had subsequent problems with WM2003 syncs, so I have gone back to using BootCamp for all of my PPC synchronizing.




    Thanks for the reply. This is exactly what I needed to know. As it turns out, it might be a moot point. The software that I would likely be wanting to run on a PDA might be OSX compatible if I move over to the PalmOS... Skyscape
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  • Reply 46 of 70
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by elehcdn

    I am using both BootCamp and Parallels on my Intel MacMini Dual. USB Activesync with both my hx4700 WM2003 and my Cingular 8125 WM5 device works flawlessly, as do all other applications that I have tried. I have a friend who is a dyed in the blue Windows XP user who has made the switch due to the Intel DualCore. He tells me that WinXP runs better and faster in DualBoot than his other PC's (he is not gaming, but he is running image and video apps).



    I am also running Parallels Beta6 to run Quicken and Outlook Express (for MS Exchange newsgroups). It works fine for those apps and for Windows without any performance issues. This version is supposed to doing a better job of dealing with USB as well. I managed to get one sync with my WM2003 device, but couldn't get it to sync my phone. I also had subsequent problems with WM2003 syncs, so I have gone back to using BootCamp for all of my PPC synchronizing.




    Did you have to install two Windows systems on your machine in order to use both?
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  • Reply 47 of 70
    elehcdnelehcdn Posts: 389member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    Did you have to install two Windows systems on your machine in order to use both?



    Yes, at this point, Parallels uses their own disk image to store the WinXP virtual machine. There is no way to use the BootCamp partition for Parallels.



    At this point, I use an 8GB partition for BootCamp since it is a basic install of WinXP Pro without much data and only minimal applications. I could actually reduce the size of the partitiion by 1GB if I needed to get back space. I use MacDrive to share the Mac data folders (as well as iTunes/iPod). The Parallels HD image dynamically allocates space as necessary. It currently eats up just a bit over 7GB. With Beta6, Parallels now allows for you to mount a Mac folder in WinXP.



    I am hoping that Parallels sorts out the USB mapping issues soon, so that I can dump BootCamp and get back that other 8GB of drive space.
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  • Reply 48 of 70
    rockets19rockets19 Posts: 75member
    I've got a 17in MacBook Pro on the way. I've looked around for the answer, but haven't been able to find out. What I want to know is can I use a Boot Camp partition to to run Parallels.



    Basically the main reason I need Windows is for gaming: IE what Boot Camp I want Boot Camp for. But there are also a few windows apps that I'd like to use from time to time as well without having to reboot. I'd hate to have to waste the HD space in order to have two Windows installs. Anybody have any idea as to if this is possible or in the works? Thanks.



    Oh yeah, I guess the next logical question would be is if Parallels will have decent enough GPU support to have adequate gaming in the (hopefully) near future. Thanks again.
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  • Reply 49 of 70
    are you asking if you can use the boot camp image to as your windows structure for parallels?
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  • Reply 50 of 70
    rockets19rockets19 Posts: 75member
    Yes, thats what I'm asking.
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  • Reply 51 of 70
    i know for a fact that you can't do that. parallels needs its own structure, sorry.
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  • Reply 52 of 70
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    The release candidate for Parallels is out now.
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  • Reply 53 of 70
    i've downloaded the RC. looks a little different, had to reinstall parallels tools, which only takes a second anyway.



    apparently there's supposed to be increased USB support, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.
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  • Reply 54 of 70
    rockets19rockets19 Posts: 75member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by builttospill

    i know for a fact that you can't do that. parallels needs its own structure, sorry.



    Ah well. Its going to suck to have to have two installs on windows on my machine.
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  • Reply 55 of 70
    Rocket, the only thing I can suggest is to try Parallels Compressor tool. It compacts virtual hard disks, therefore saving you real disk space. You can download a trial here:



    http://www.parallels.com/en/download/compressor/



    Lemme know how it goes. Worked great for me.
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  • Reply 56 of 70
    did you try using parallels compressor?
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  • Reply 57 of 70
    rockets19rockets19 Posts: 75member
    Not yet, I just got all situated with the new MacBook. I've got the Boot Camp install all set up, I'll get started on the Paralles using compressor, thanks.
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  • Reply 58 of 70
    I'd try out Parallels, but I don't have a WinXP disc.
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  • Reply 59 of 70
    hmm, that's a problem blackbird...if you just want to try out Parallels, and are familiar w/ linux, I know there are a bunch of free distrobutions you can download off various sites. As far as getting a windows disc, see if a PC buddy has one...
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  • Reply 60 of 70
    Quote:

    Originally posted by builttospill

    hmm, that's a problem blackbird...if you just want to try out Parallels, and are familiar w/ linux, I know there are a bunch of free distrobutions you can download off various sites. As far as getting a windows disc, see if a PC buddy has one...



    I'd like to eventually try to get something like NeXTStep or Openstep running.



    It's been my obsessive dream to run that system, or own a NeXT box.
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