students can save work on a server or flash drive (or iPod).
Good point. And a good reason, I believe, that Apple needs to put a USB port and Firewire port on the front of the computer. I can't imagine that looking aesthetically good-looking on an iMac, however, it may not be an iMac that we're talking about here.
Good point. And a good reason, I believe, that Apple needs to put a USB port and Firewire port on the front of the computer. I can't imagine that looking aesthetically good-looking on an iMac, however, it may not be an iMac that we're talking about here.
true true. maybe ports on the side?
one of the iMacs i mentioned is in a situation where people often need to get access to the USB/firewire ports and the audio jacks. it's a pain to spin it around or reach over all the time.
The other thing I think that Apple will come up with is a new way to monitor what the students are actually doing with their machines (if there isn't a way to do this already; I know there is on PC).
You know with kids nowadays and their bling bling and getting jiggy wit it and get rich or die tryin and stuff. We gotta communicate on their level. Mockup shown is front view, at the back is strong stable aluminium stand to stabilise the main iMac-like unit. Presenting, the Mac.E
Hilarious. You don't suppose they'll create a signature "50 Cent" edition... for $599.50?
You don't take away current features away to add more power, you take the current features and add more power.
You mean like the loss of the Firewire 800 ports and the loss of dual layer writing on the MacBook Pro 15" vs. the Powerbook it replaced? Or the loss of a dedicated graphics chip on the low end products?
750 for a Dell... how much is then spent on software that already comes on a Mac (movie making, homepage making, etc.) and other apps that are are similar to use, thus saving many hours of time, which will likely save more money in the long run.
Probably damn little. Dell will bundle all that in an offer. Remember the dell box will have a pent d or a celeron both of which are cheaper than ICD.
I said "mean video only"; there are many, many good potential uses for a superdrive in schools and I do not think it should be cut. Of course, if all schools have high speed net connections, then videos could be posted, but there is still the potential use of the superdrive.
If properly integrated into the lesson, movies (whether film or iMovie) can be highly educational, more so than just a text and babbling teacher. A ten minute clip showing Hitler, with his voice and antics, will portray more about him than many pages of text. Similarly, a video about how to ride a bike is more instructive than a print, as the viewer can see and imagine the difficulty in keeping balance and thus better prepare forit (just an example)(better of course would be to have a bike in class in this case). Movies should not become the sole learning medium.
In response to mynamehere:
Can the Apple Remote Desktop view 50 computers at once? I am completely unfamiliar with it.
In response to xUKHCx:
I should have said "the monster in Frankenstein"; my error.
Probably damn little. Dell will bundle all that in an offer. Remember the dell box will have a pent d or a celeron both of which are cheaper than ICD.
But what about the time spent having to learn the various apps which are likely made by different companies? What about the time lost trying to teach the different apps? What about the time lost using the different apps? Schools are pushed for time.
I said "mean video only"; there are many, many good potential uses for a superdrive in schools and I do not think it should be cut. Of course, if all schools have high speed net connections, then videos could be posted, but there is still the potential use of the superdrive.
If properly integrated into the lesson, movies (whether film or iMovie) can be highly educational, more so than just a text and babbling teacher. A ten minute clip showing Hitler, with his voice and antics, will portray more about him than many pages of text. Similarly, a video about how to ride a bike is more instructive than a print, as the viewer can see and imagine the difficulty in keeping balance and thus better prepare forit (just an example)(better of course would be to have a bike in class in this case). Movies should not become the sole learning medium.
Again, why would any of this require a Superdrive? The only time you would really need a Superdrive is if you are creating video DVDs to take home to play on a standalone DVD player. Nothing you present above makes the case for needing a Superdrive. High resolution feature-length films can fit on a CD using MPEG4, which Quicktime can export without needing additional software, and the vast majority of students who aren't film majors will not be making 2-hour iMovies anyway. Ten minute clip? That would take less than 50MB in MPEG4, 370MB in 720x480 MPEG2, even smaller if you won't be playing it back fullscreen, hardly a reason to require a 4.4GB DVD-R. Besides, nobody's going to watch 10 minutes of Hitler. A few seconds is enough to see his mannerisms and 99.999999% of American kids won't understand a single word he's saying anyway. I sure wouldn't sit through 10 minutes of a certifiable lunatic babbling in a strange language.
But what about the time spent having to learn the various apps which are likely made by different companies? What about the time lost trying to teach the different apps? What about the time lost using the different apps? Schools are pushed for time.
Pinnacle Studio 9 isn't very hard to learn or use and is more powerful than iMovie.
Hilarious. You don't suppose they'll create a signature "50 Cent" edition... for $599.50?
Hey that's a great idea. Every 50th "Mac.E 50cent edition" the school buys will actually cost only 50cents. Now that's real marketing to the school and the students...!!!
Pinnacle Studio 9 isn't very hard to learn or use and is more powerful than iMovie.
Had a quick peek... looks interesting. I confess I spent a bit aof money adding plugins to make iMove a real nice program.
I was also suggesting the other apps: iPhoto, Keyonote, Pages, etc., which all share very similar interfaces and some of the same interfaces (for photo editing, for example) as well as very quickly and easily sharing elements.
Then there is the problem solving step: any problems with your Mac, a single phone call can solve it all.
But what about the time spent having to learn the various apps which are likely made by different companies? What about the time lost trying to teach the different apps? What about the time lost using the different apps? Schools are pushed for time.
At the end of the day many people only see the number on the check when making the final decision. Otherwise everyone would be using Macs.
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Originally posted by xjpx
students can save work on a server or flash drive (or iPod).
Good point. And a good reason, I believe, that Apple needs to put a USB port and Firewire port on the front of the computer. I can't imagine that looking aesthetically good-looking on an iMac, however, it may not be an iMac that we're talking about here.
Originally posted by DHagan4755
Good point. And a good reason, I believe, that Apple needs to put a USB port and Firewire port on the front of the computer. I can't imagine that looking aesthetically good-looking on an iMac, however, it may not be an iMac that we're talking about here.
true true. maybe ports on the side?
one of the iMacs i mentioned is in a situation where people often need to get access to the USB/firewire ports and the audio jacks. it's a pain to spin it around or reach over all the time.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
The other thing I think that Apple will come up with is a new way to monitor what the students are actually doing with their machines (if there isn't a way to do this already; I know there is on PC).
Apple Remote Desktop?
Originally posted by sunilraman
You know with kids nowadays and their bling bling and getting jiggy wit it and get rich or die tryin and stuff. We gotta communicate on their level. Mockup shown is front view, at the back is strong stable aluminium stand to stabilise the main iMac-like unit. Presenting, the Mac.E
Hilarious. You don't suppose they'll create a signature "50 Cent" edition... for $599.50?
BT isn't really required but chances are AP and BT are all on the same card.
Originally posted by ecking
You don't take away current features away to add more power, you take the current features and add more power.
You mean like the loss of the Firewire 800 ports and the loss of dual layer writing on the MacBook Pro 15" vs. the Powerbook it replaced? Or the loss of a dedicated graphics chip on the low end products?
Originally posted by shanmugam
$599 - Mac Mini
$799 - Mac Mini
$999 - 15" or 17" iMac Mini /eMac
$1099 - 15" or 17" iMac Mini /eMac
$1299 - 19" iMac
$1699 - 21" iMac
$1999 - 24" iMac
purely speculating on price points to cover the entire line
not sure how many pixels go into these displays
Tossing out the 17" and 20" screen sizes means changing the parts, the current iMac enclosure is barely six months old.
Apple likes to stick as close to 100dpi as possible for desktop displays, and I think many of those screens you suggest are outside of that.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
The little nodes on the side make it look like Frankenstein.
Frankenstein was the name of the Doctor not the monster.
The monster was never given a name by shelly, it was always refered to monster or creature or fiend
Originally posted by xUKHCx
Frankenstein was the name of the Doctor not the monster.
Yeah...but americans kinda twisted the names around.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
750 for a Dell... how much is then spent on software that already comes on a Mac (movie making, homepage making, etc.) and other apps that are are similar to use, thus saving many hours of time, which will likely save more money in the long run.
Probably damn little. Dell will bundle all that in an offer. Remember the dell box will have a pent d or a celeron both of which are cheaper than ICD.
I said "mean video only"; there are many, many good potential uses for a superdrive in schools and I do not think it should be cut. Of course, if all schools have high speed net connections, then videos could be posted, but there is still the potential use of the superdrive.
If properly integrated into the lesson, movies (whether film or iMovie) can be highly educational, more so than just a text and babbling teacher. A ten minute clip showing Hitler, with his voice and antics, will portray more about him than many pages of text. Similarly, a video about how to ride a bike is more instructive than a print, as the viewer can see and imagine the difficulty in keeping balance and thus better prepare forit (just an example)(better of course would be to have a bike in class in this case). Movies should not become the sole learning medium.
In response to mynamehere:
Can the Apple Remote Desktop view 50 computers at once? I am completely unfamiliar with it.
In response to xUKHCx:
I should have said "the monster in Frankenstein"; my error.
Originally posted by backtomac
Probably damn little. Dell will bundle all that in an offer. Remember the dell box will have a pent d or a celeron both of which are cheaper than ICD.
But what about the time spent having to learn the various apps which are likely made by different companies? What about the time lost trying to teach the different apps? What about the time lost using the different apps? Schools are pushed for time.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
In response to Kolchak:
I said "mean video only"; there are many, many good potential uses for a superdrive in schools and I do not think it should be cut. Of course, if all schools have high speed net connections, then videos could be posted, but there is still the potential use of the superdrive.
If properly integrated into the lesson, movies (whether film or iMovie) can be highly educational, more so than just a text and babbling teacher. A ten minute clip showing Hitler, with his voice and antics, will portray more about him than many pages of text. Similarly, a video about how to ride a bike is more instructive than a print, as the viewer can see and imagine the difficulty in keeping balance and thus better prepare forit (just an example)(better of course would be to have a bike in class in this case). Movies should not become the sole learning medium.
Again, why would any of this require a Superdrive? The only time you would really need a Superdrive is if you are creating video DVDs to take home to play on a standalone DVD player. Nothing you present above makes the case for needing a Superdrive. High resolution feature-length films can fit on a CD using MPEG4, which Quicktime can export without needing additional software, and the vast majority of students who aren't film majors will not be making 2-hour iMovies anyway. Ten minute clip? That would take less than 50MB in MPEG4, 370MB in 720x480 MPEG2, even smaller if you won't be playing it back fullscreen, hardly a reason to require a 4.4GB DVD-R. Besides, nobody's going to watch 10 minutes of Hitler. A few seconds is enough to see his mannerisms and 99.999999% of American kids won't understand a single word he's saying anyway. I sure wouldn't sit through 10 minutes of a certifiable lunatic babbling in a strange language.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
But what about the time spent having to learn the various apps which are likely made by different companies? What about the time lost trying to teach the different apps? What about the time lost using the different apps? Schools are pushed for time.
Pinnacle Studio 9 isn't very hard to learn or use and is more powerful than iMovie.
Hilarious. You don't suppose they'll create a signature "50 Cent" edition... for $599.50?
Originally posted by JeffDM
Pinnacle Studio 9 isn't very hard to learn or use and is more powerful than iMovie.
Had a quick peek... looks interesting. I confess I spent a bit aof money adding plugins to make iMove a real nice program.
I was also suggesting the other apps: iPhoto, Keyonote, Pages, etc., which all share very similar interfaces and some of the same interfaces (for photo editing, for example) as well as very quickly and easily sharing elements.
Then there is the problem solving step: any problems with your Mac, a single phone call can solve it all.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
But what about the time spent having to learn the various apps which are likely made by different companies? What about the time lost trying to teach the different apps? What about the time lost using the different apps? Schools are pushed for time.
At the end of the day many people only see the number on the check when making the final decision. Otherwise everyone would be using Macs.
Originally posted by sunilraman
What is that computer supposed to look like? It's hard to picture how that works and how it looks from a different angle.