No, no no. The extended chin defeats the whole point. The bottom of the screen is the bottom of the computer. We want wide and squat, not tall and breath-on-me-and-I-tip-over.
All the guts go in the flat base slab which is the same size as the display slab. They are mirror images of each other set at a 90° angle. The center aligned, gently curved handle connects the two slabs, providing rigidity to the whole design while doubling as a security cable loop.
Oh I know you don't agree with it, it's my vision of what I'd personally do with it.
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Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
I'd do it myself, but it would come out worse than ecking's.
lol wow wore than mine? Because my photoshop skills are pretty damn bad
Its morning now and im about to do a mockup, but on a slightly related note:
remember the old 2x2 grid Apple used to have for their laptop and desktop, consumer and pro computers. I can see something similar possibly happeneing now, just with a 3x3 grid now:
Mac mini .......... l Mac ................. l Mac pro ...........
--------------------------------------------
iMac mini ......... l iMac ................ l iMac pro ..........
--------------------------------------------
MacBook mini .. l MacBook .......... l MacBook pro ...
Here we already have the Mac Mini, the Mac pro (Powermac replacement), the iMac, the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.
The i in iMac now means integrated, so the computer we're discussing here could go as an iMac mini. The iMac pro would be put into the same form factor as the current cinema displays and be much more powerful than the current iMac.
The Mac would be a midrange headless mac.
The MacBook mini would be some sort of subnotebook.
Stu, you rock! Thanks, man, that's exactly what I was envisioning. The front view and the leading edge where the slabs meet are perfect. Handle chunkiness is just right. The screen angle is also perfect.
But now that I can finally see it myself, there are a few things I was wrong about and should be tweaked:
The base slab should be shorter, it doesn't need to be the exact same length as the display slab. Chop about 2" off it so that the handle joins the base slab about an inch from the new back edge. You may need to move the handle joint up on the display slab to keep it symmetrical, but it might be fine left in the exact middle as it is now.
The optical drive should load from the front, so just add a slit under the screen. We should add some (very) small speakers grills/holes to the corners under the screen too. Don't increase the size of the bottom screen bezel though, it's perfect the way it is.
You might have to make the base slab a little thicker to accomplish this, it's OK if it's not the exact same thickness as the display slab. If this ends up looking weird, then leave the slab thickness alone and just make the optical drive load on the left side.
Firewire, USB and Ethernet ports along the right side of the base slab and you're done!
I have the new ad campaign headline:
"The all-new eMac. Get a handle on your homework."
remember the old 2x2 grid Apple used to have for their laptop and desktop, consumer and pro computers. I can see something similar possibly happeneing now, just with a 3x3 grid now:
Mac mini .......... l Mac ................. l Mac pro ...........
--------------------------------------------
iMac mini ......... l iMac ................ l iMac pro ..........
--------------------------------------------
MacBook mini .. l MacBook .......... l MacBook pro ...
Here we already have the Mac Mini, the Mac pro (Powermac replacement), the iMac, the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.
The i in iMac now means integrated, so the computer we're discussing here could go as an iMac mini. The iMac pro would be put into the same form factor as the current cinema displays and be much more powerful than the current iMac.
The Mac would be a midrange headless mac.
The MacBook mini would be some sort of subnotebook.
What do you think?
I think that's genius.
Seriously, I've been tackling that issue in my head for the last year and your nine model, 3x3 grid is perfect. I never knew how to get around the "i" in iMac with the new Intel naming conventions, but you've solved it.
Won't happen right away as four new models have to be introduced, but there's no reason we couldn't have that a year from now.
You should start a separate thread on this subject. It warrants forum wide discussion.
The power cord is fixed neatly to the back right corner of the base slab. Remember, the power supply is internal. The relatively wide base slab allows the full size hard drive, optical drive and power supply to all be arranged side by side in the case with no stacking.
I was also thinking the back edge could have a removable door that exposes the side by side RAM slots and pull tab hard drive access like in the new MacBooks. A simple long rectangle with some dots for screw heads could indicate this.
Stu, you rock! Thanks, man, that's exactly what I was envisioning. The front view and the leading edge where the slabs meet are perfect. Handle chunkiness is just right. The screen angle is also perfect.
What!? That exactly what I made (which you hated) but without a chin. Other than that it's the same design!
The only reason I ever had a chin was so the computer would be at an aceptable height instead of low to the desk.
This is just a chin-less nicely, modeled version of the design I made you!
When you're talking about K - 6 students I think that the display has to be pretty low, unless the system comes with a booster seat. I also think another design issue will be the power supply - an internal supply seems far better than a mass of bricks in a class room. Otherwise I think the design issue is wide open.
From a practical point of view, however, I think Apple will go with a Solo chip in a 17" iMac, no optical drive (or no SuperDrive if there is one) and smaler HDs. That will handle K-6 without a problem and there would be upgrades available for High School students that need more horsepower - which might include the standard iMac range.
I'm also in agreement on the 3*3 matrix, especially with the MB mini (I've used a 3 pound notebook before and love the form factor) and the mid range Mac. An iMac Pro is hard to envision, however, as the only option I see is one with a 23" display. They might add a second Duo (as there would be room with a 23" display). Now that would catch a lot of interest if the pricing can be held down somewhat.
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Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
No, no no. The extended chin defeats the whole point. The bottom of the screen is the bottom of the computer. We want wide and squat, not tall and breath-on-me-and-I-tip-over.
All the guts go in the flat base slab which is the same size as the display slab. They are mirror images of each other set at a 90° angle. The center aligned, gently curved handle connects the two slabs, providing rigidity to the whole design while doubling as a security cable loop.
Oh I know you don't agree with it, it's my vision of what I'd personally do with it.
Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
I'd do it myself, but it would come out worse than ecking's.
lol wow wore than mine? Because my photoshop skills are pretty damn bad
remember the old 2x2 grid Apple used to have for their laptop and desktop, consumer and pro computers. I can see something similar possibly happeneing now, just with a 3x3 grid now:
Mac mini .......... l Mac ................. l Mac pro ...........
--------------------------------------------
iMac mini ......... l iMac ................ l iMac pro ..........
--------------------------------------------
MacBook mini .. l MacBook .......... l MacBook pro ...
Here we already have the Mac Mini, the Mac pro (Powermac replacement), the iMac, the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.
The i in iMac now means integrated, so the computer we're discussing here could go as an iMac mini. The iMac pro would be put into the same form factor as the current cinema displays and be much more powerful than the current iMac.
The Mac would be a midrange headless mac.
The MacBook mini would be some sort of subnotebook.
What do you think?
Anyway, off to build a mockup.
Stu
next set of questions:
is that what you imagined so far?
where are the ports going to go?
is the screen at the right angle?
is the handle chunky enough?
and a little unrelated, but never seen before:
stu
Originally posted by stustanley
Ok here is what i have so far:
next set of questions:
is that what you imagined so far?
where are the ports going to go?
is the screen at the right angle?
is the handle chunky enough?
Stu, you rock! Thanks, man, that's exactly what I was envisioning. The front view and the leading edge where the slabs meet are perfect. Handle chunkiness is just right. The screen angle is also perfect.
But now that I can finally see it myself, there are a few things I was wrong about and should be tweaked:
The base slab should be shorter, it doesn't need to be the exact same length as the display slab. Chop about 2" off it so that the handle joins the base slab about an inch from the new back edge. You may need to move the handle joint up on the display slab to keep it symmetrical, but it might be fine left in the exact middle as it is now.
The optical drive should load from the front, so just add a slit under the screen. We should add some (very) small speakers grills/holes to the corners under the screen too. Don't increase the size of the bottom screen bezel though, it's perfect the way it is.
You might have to make the base slab a little thicker to accomplish this, it's OK if it's not the exact same thickness as the display slab. If this ends up looking weird, then leave the slab thickness alone and just make the optical drive load on the left side.
Firewire, USB and Ethernet ports along the right side of the base slab and you're done!
I have the new ad campaign headline:
"The all-new eMac. Get a handle on your homework."
Originally posted by stustanley
remember the old 2x2 grid Apple used to have for their laptop and desktop, consumer and pro computers. I can see something similar possibly happeneing now, just with a 3x3 grid now:
Mac mini .......... l Mac ................. l Mac pro ...........
--------------------------------------------
iMac mini ......... l iMac ................ l iMac pro ..........
--------------------------------------------
MacBook mini .. l MacBook .......... l MacBook pro ...
Here we already have the Mac Mini, the Mac pro (Powermac replacement), the iMac, the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.
The i in iMac now means integrated, so the computer we're discussing here could go as an iMac mini. The iMac pro would be put into the same form factor as the current cinema displays and be much more powerful than the current iMac.
The Mac would be a midrange headless mac.
The MacBook mini would be some sort of subnotebook.
What do you think?
I think that's genius.
Seriously, I've been tackling that issue in my head for the last year and your nine model, 3x3 grid is perfect. I never knew how to get around the "i" in iMac with the new Intel naming conventions, but you've solved it.
Won't happen right away as four new models have to be introduced, but there's no reason we couldn't have that a year from now.
You should start a separate thread on this subject. It warrants forum wide discussion.
Where is the power going to plug in?
stu
The power cord is fixed neatly to the back right corner of the base slab. Remember, the power supply is internal. The relatively wide base slab allows the full size hard drive, optical drive and power supply to all be arranged side by side in the case with no stacking.
I was also thinking the back edge could have a removable door that exposes the side by side RAM slots and pull tab hard drive access like in the new MacBooks. A simple long rectangle with some dots for screw heads could indicate this.
Originally posted by rageous
What about something with the AIO concept of the iMac, but has a three legged design similar to that last set of cinema displays?
such as:
personally...I like this a LOT
Originally posted by icfireball
personally...I like this a LOT
It would easily get knocked over...this is not a good edu design.
Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
Stu, you rock! Thanks, man, that's exactly what I was envisioning. The front view and the leading edge where the slabs meet are perfect. Handle chunkiness is just right. The screen angle is also perfect.
What!? That exactly what I made (which you hated) but without a chin. Other than that it's the same design!
The only reason I ever had a chin was so the computer would be at an aceptable height instead of low to the desk.
This is just a chin-less nicely, modeled version of the design I made you!
What gives man?
Originally posted by kim kap sol
It would easily get knocked over...this is not a good edu design.
Do cinema displays or current iMacs easily get knocked over? -- No.
Why would this design be a problem.
Also, if it was a problem. Why not just have four legs like a chair.
Originally posted by icfireball
Do cinema displays or current iMacs easily get knocked over? -- No.
Um, yes.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't work with K-12 computer labs.
There's a reason the G4 eMac was built like a tank. The new machine needs the same durability and low center of gravity,
Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
Um, yes.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't work with K-12 computer labs.
There's a reason the G4 eMac was built like a tank. The new machine needs the same durability and low center of gravity,
Agreed, but knocking over a last gen iMac requires a lot of brute force.
Throwing an 8 year old at it might do, though.
Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
Um, yes.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't work with K-12 computer labs.
There's a reason the G4 eMac was built like a tank. The new machine needs the same durability and low center of gravity,
Funny you say that. I'm a sophomore in HS.
From a practical point of view, however, I think Apple will go with a Solo chip in a 17" iMac, no optical drive (or no SuperDrive if there is one) and smaler HDs. That will handle K-6 without a problem and there would be upgrades available for High School students that need more horsepower - which might include the standard iMac range.
I'm also in agreement on the 3*3 matrix, especially with the MB mini (I've used a 3 pound notebook before and love the form factor) and the mid range Mac. An iMac Pro is hard to envision, however, as the only option I see is one with a 23" display. They might add a second Duo (as there would be room with a 23" display). Now that would catch a lot of interest if the pricing can be held down somewhat.
Another exam tommorrow so no updated graphics yet. Maybe tomorrow tho!
stu
Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
Does your lab have current gen iMacs and Cinema Displays? If so, how are they secured?
We have the current generation iMacs. They are secured to the table mostly via the cable arrangment.
I think thought that it would be fine even without a stiff cable arrangment.