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  • Reply 21 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,694member
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    Originally posted by blue2kdave

    Sure, I think you are making the assumption that Server only runs on the xServe. I've run OS X server on a cube and mini as dev boxes (sadly, server no longer supports the cube). As far as how many run the software, who knows. But the question was is it possible. I run iTunes on Server all of the time.



    No, I was not.



    The software is distinct from the hardware.
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  • Reply 22 of 28
    vl-tonevl-tone Posts: 337member
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    Originally Posted by melgross


    No, I was not.



    The software is distinct from the hardware.



    But Steve said that the soul of a Mac is its OS!



    Nahh seriously guys, just watch the WWDC06 keynote again, Phil Schiller announced that the Mac transition to intel was complete, before announcing the intel xServes, saying something about how they were not Macs.
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  • Reply 23 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,694member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VL-Tone


    But Steve said that the soul of a Mac is its OS!



    Nahh seriously guys, just watch the WWDC06 keynote again, Phil Schiller announced that the Mac transition to intel was complete, before announcing the intel xServes, saying something about how they were not Macs.



    What's in a name anyway?
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  • Reply 24 of 28
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member
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    Originally Posted by Chucker


    Because, unlike the Mac mini, the iMac, the MacBook, the MacBook Pro and the Power Mac, an Xserve is fairly useless on its own. Most of the time, you don't even have a display connected to it. Macs are autonomous machines; the Xserve is not.



    You most certinly can use a xserve as a desktop: lots of data centers and compute clusters use a rack server for the managment modual or workstation, after all, you already have the racks and stuff in place, why shove a tower in there when a 1u rack server can do the job...they all have GPUs, and VGA (if not DVI) out, that also really helps if one goes fubar too.



    Honestly, the differance between sertver and desktop is the default services and the fact that, on top of some really sweet propriatery managment tools Appple gives a nice gui frontend for unix services that you can run in terminal in any OSX.
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  • Reply 25 of 28
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by a_greer


    You most certinly can use a xserve as a desktop: lots of data centers and compute clusters use a rack server for the managment modual or workstation, after all, you already have the racks and stuff in place, why shove a tower in there when a 1u rack server can do the job...they all have GPUs, and VGA (if not DVI) out, that also really helps if one goes fubar too.



    Honestly, the differance between sertver and desktop is the default services and the fact that, on top of some really sweet propriatery managment tools Appple gives a nice gui frontend for unix services that you can run in terminal in any OSX.



    I don't think I was saying anything different. The Xserve can certainly be used as a desktop, but it's not usually practical to do so, not only because it's quite expensive for that purpose, but also because, for most users, it has an unfit form factor.
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  • Reply 26 of 28
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    This is the most pointless argument I've ever witnessed.
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  • Reply 27 of 28
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Placebo


    This is the most pointless argument I've ever witnessed.



    Dude, you're on AI.
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  • Reply 28 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,694member
    AI=Absolutely Intellectual
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