Apple to refocus on consumers post Labor Day - Needham

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Apple Computer is likely to regain focus on its consumer initiative around the first week of September but will first concentrate on the completion of its Intel transition at next month's World Wide Developers Conference, analysts for Needham & Co. said on Thursday.



"Apple got through another quarter of its transition to the Intel processor family," analyst Charles Wolf wrote in a research note to clients. "We believe the PowerMac, the only model not running on Intel, will receive its Intel upgrade at the Worldwide Developers Conference on August 7th."



Wolf said the most "stunning" news to come out of Apple's last quarter results were the shipments of nearly 800,000 notebooks, a 61 percent increase despite that the new MacBook was introduced halfway through the quarter. "In our opinion it's the best Mac yet in terms of price/performance," he said.



According to Wolf, Apple is likely to recommence its consumer-oriented product introductions after Labor Day (September 4th), which should include a new higher-capacity iPod nano and possibly "an all-new iPod."



"There promises to be even more come 2007 if the cryptic remarks of Peter Oppenheimer, Apple's CFO, come to pass," he wrote.



Following Apple's third quarter earnings report, Wolf raised his fiscal 2006 earnings-per-share (EPS) estimates from $1.95 to $2.15 and his 2007 estimates from $2.45 to $2.50.



"In our opinion, the tendency of investors to think linearly in an inherently non-linear world explains much of the decline in Apple?s share price this year," he said. "Our 2004 analysis indicated that iPod shipment growth would slow by 2005. But it should remain in a solid double-digit range over the next several years."



Wolf continues to rate shares of Apple a Buy with a price target of $90. He believes it's "ridiculous" to assume the notion that everyone who wants an iPod has one.



"We estimate that between 15 percent and 20 percent of Americans own an iPod or another portable music player," he said. "Our model indicates that steady state penetration rate could reach 50 percent by 2010."



Similarly, Wolf believes the popular notion that cell phones are going to take over the music player market is "equally ridiculous." Certainly an increasing number of cell phones will include a music player, he said, "but the love affair with convergence is way over blown, in our opinion."
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  • Reply 1 of 28
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    >>"In our opinion, the tendency of investors to think linearly in an inherently non-linear world explains much of the decline in Apple?s share price this year," he wrote. "Our 2004 analysis indicated that iPod shipment growth would slow by 2005. But it should remain in a solid double-digit range over the next several years."



    Wolf continues to rate shares of Apple a Buy with a price target of $90. He believes it's "ridiculous" to assume the notion that everyone who wants an iPod has one.



    "We estimate that between 15 percent and 20 percent of Americans own an iPod or another portable music player," the analyst wrote. "Our model indicates that steady state penetration rate could reach 50 percent by 2010."<<



    These clowns continue to crack me up with their deep understanding of Apple products and consumers...
  • Reply 2 of 28
    erbiumerbium Posts: 354member
    I'm predicting revised iMacs



    September 12 to 16



    Apple Expo Paris
  • Reply 3 of 28
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SpamSandwich



    >>These clowns continue to crack me up with their deep understanding of Apple products and consumers...



    Wolf is one analyst who actually has some understanding- the others whose 'expert' opinions caused Apple's share price to drop based on their 'accurate' forecasts are the real idiots. Often associated with ZDnet, CNet...
  • Reply 4 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SpamSandwich

    >>"In our opinion, the tendency of investors to think linearly in an inherently non-linear world explains much of the decline in Apple?s share price this year," he wrote. "Our 2004 analysis indicated that iPod shipment growth would slow by 2005. But it should remain in a solid double-digit range over the next several years."



    Wolf continues to rate shares of Apple a Buy with a price target of $90. He believes it's "ridiculous" to assume the notion that everyone who wants an iPod has one.



    "We estimate that between 15 percent and 20 percent of Americans own an iPod or another portable music player," the analyst wrote. "Our model indicates that steady state penetration rate could reach 50 percent by 2010."<<



    These clowns continue to crack me up with their deep understanding of Apple products and consumers...




    I happen to agree with him.
  • Reply 5 of 28
    jamezogjamezog Posts: 163member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by melgross

    I happen to agree with him.



    Ditto. It's tough to disagree with such a common-sense analysis, especially when it agrees so closely with the rumors we've been hearing in recent weeks.
  • Reply 6 of 28
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by melgross

    I happen to agree with him.



    I guess I could have narrowed down my focus a bit... to this:

    "Our model indicates that steady state penetration rate could reach 50 percent by 2010."



    It's highly unlikely there would be a 50% saturation of iPods by then. I'd be happy if it were so, but I just can't believe a statistic like that. Four years from now... that might be beyond the bell curve.
  • Reply 7 of 28
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SpamSandwich

    I guess I could have narrowed down my focus a bit... to this:

    "Our model indicates that steady state penetration rate could reach 50 percent by 2010."



    It's highly unlikely there would be a 50% saturation of iPods by then. I'd be happy if it were so, but I just can't believe a statistic like that. Four years from now... that might be beyond the bell curve.




    I don't think he means 50% of Americans will own iPods, I think he means 50% of Americans will own iPods or some other digital music player.
  • Reply 8 of 28
    cubertcubert Posts: 728member
    Although, he said,



    "The PowerMac, the only model not running on Intel."



    Hello! How about the XServe?
  • Reply 9 of 28
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Cubert

    Hello! How about the XServe?



    While the Xserve runs OS X Server, it isn't generally considered a Mac.
  • Reply 10 of 28
    jimbo123jimbo123 Posts: 153member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Chucker

    While the Xserve runs OS X Server, it isn't generally considered a Mac.



    Point proven they have no idea about Apple.
  • Reply 11 of 28
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Chucker

    While the Xserve runs OS X Server, it isn't generally considered a Mac.



    Would there be a particular reason for that? That doesn't make sense to me.
  • Reply 12 of 28
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JeffDM

    Would there be a particular reason for that? That doesn't make sense to me.



    Because, unlike the Mac mini, the iMac, the MacBook, the MacBook Pro and the Power Mac, an Xserve is fairly useless on its own. Most of the time, you don't even have a display connected to it. Macs are autonomous machines; the Xserve is not.
  • Reply 13 of 28
    gdekadtgdekadt Posts: 1member
    1st paragraph of story should read completion, not competition.
  • Reply 14 of 28
    blue2kdaveblue2kdave Posts: 652member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Chucker

    Because, unlike the Mac mini, the iMac, the MacBook, the MacBook Pro and the Power Mac, an Xserve is fairly useless on its own. Most of the time, you don't even have a display connected to it. Macs are autonomous machines; the Xserve is not.



    Actually this is not true. OS X Server comes with every default app, minus iLife which you can run.
  • Reply 15 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by jimbo123

    Point proven they have no idea about Apple.



    Your post makes no sense.



    He was talking about Macs, which Chucker quite rightly pointed out, is NOT a Mac.



    XServes also sell in such small quantities compared to anything else in Apple's line, that they hardly add to the numbers.
  • Reply 16 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JeffDM

    Would there be a particular reason for that? That doesn't make sense to me.



    An XServe is not a general purpose desk anything machine. It is the ultimate headless computer. But, it needs a rack, and is in a seperate division from all of Apples machines. A very small division.
  • Reply 17 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by blue2kdave

    Actually this is not true. OS X Server comes with every default app, minus iLife which you can run.



    Can you enumerate how many do run that software?



    Sorry, the XServe is highly specialized. It's not a "Mac". It's a server, and a machine used for large installations, such as those used in large computing facilities. Virginia used the PowerMac's for that. But you saw how fast they switched to the XServes once they became available.
  • Reply 18 of 28
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by blue2kdave

    OS X Server comes with every default app, minus iLife which you can run.



    Which doesn't negate my statement at all.



    But, whatever, what melgross said.
  • Reply 19 of 28
    blue2kdaveblue2kdave Posts: 652member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by melgross

    Can you enumerate how many do run that software?



    Sorry, the XServe is highly specialized. It's not a "Mac". It's a server, and a machine used for large installations, such as those used in large computing facilities. Virginia used the PowerMac's for that. But you saw how fast they switched to the XServes once they became available.




    Sure, I think you are making the assumption that Server only runs on the xServe. I've run OS X server on a cube and mini as dev boxes (sadly, server no longer supports the cube). As far as how many run the software, who knows. But the question was is it possible. I run iTunes on Server all of the time.
  • Reply 20 of 28
    blue2kdaveblue2kdave Posts: 652member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Chucker

    Which doesn't negate my statement at all.



    But, whatever, what melgross said.




    yeah, I was more referring to OS Server in general, not the xServe. Should have read your post more carefully.
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