Ah, the little things on the PC side that I don't miss. About 40% of the people in my law school have Dell laptops, and those things sound like jet engines reving up when the fans go on.
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So if you can provide a reasonably quiet and affordable Conroe/Woodcrest machine capable of performing my tasks at a significantly faster rate than I am currently used to I will buy a new computer from you.
What specs do you condider affordable and how much do you have to spend?
Conroe is cheaper than Merom. The same iMac case has been used on the Rev C iMac G5, which had a much higher TDP than Conroe.
Using two different motherboards on the Mac Pro is costly.
Yeah, I really don't know why people keep counting Merom out for the iMac. Granted, we don't know which way Apple will go, but Conroe is an option for sure.
Conroe is about 20w higher in TDP. Apple has a very quiet system with the iMac and we all know, they are willing to trade speed for elegance and quietness. They're underclocking the mobility x1600 by about 150mhz for the current iMac and MBP just to make it a little bit quieter for God's sake.
Chucker, not true. My friend's 17" iMac has its X1600 clocked at 300Mhz for core and memory. Most iMacs post core and memory speeds between 300Mhz and 400Mhz. The actual rated speed for the memory and GPU are 470Mhz each.
You reply with no argument, pull a figure out of thin air, then proclaim it to be correct. Asus has Mobility X1600s in their laptops clocked at 470Mhz/470Mhz and it is not overclocked. Look here, here, and here
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SpacetitoX clocked the graphics processor (GPU) at 310MHz, 35 percent slower then ATI's recommended 475MHz. He also clocked the MacBook's graphics RAM at 278MHz, 41 percent below the 470MHz par ATI tells system makers to use.
What do you think a "Mobility Radeon X1600" is, if not an "ATi made X1600 mobility"?
Jeez indeed, just accept that the iMac's GPU is clocked like a typical MR, whereas the MBP's is clocked lower, and a desktop version (non-M) is clocked yet higher.
What do you think a "Mobility Radeon X1600" is, if not an "ATi made X1600 mobility"?
Jeez indeed, just accept that the iMac's GPU is clocked like a typical MR, whereas the MBP's is clocked lower, and a desktop version (non-M) is clocked yet higher.
There is no such thing as "factory overclocking". As a nerd with too much time in your hands and too much money from your parents, you can overclock. As a company, you can clock higher or lower, but not "over"clock.
There is no such thing as "factory overclocking". As a nerd with too much time in your hands and too much money from your parents, you can overclock. As a company, you can clock higher or lower, but not "over"clock.
You can overclock. It means having the clocks over spec from what ATI tells you they are supposed to be. If ATI says you can make your graphics cards 650MHz, and you sell them for 20 dollars more and say that yours are faster because the core is 660MHz, then you're factory overclocking.
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Using two different motherboards on the Mac Pro is costly.
Dear Apple,
I have a Dell desktop that is loud as hell.
Ah, the little things on the PC side that I don't miss. About 40% of the people in my law school have Dell laptops, and those things sound like jet engines reving up when the fans go on.
So if you can provide a reasonably quiet and affordable Conroe/Woodcrest machine capable of performing my tasks at a significantly faster rate than I am currently used to I will buy a new computer from you.
What specs do you condider affordable and how much do you have to spend?
I think Apple will answer your letter on Monday
Conroe is cheaper than Merom. The same iMac case has been used on the Rev C iMac G5, which had a much higher TDP than Conroe.
Using two different motherboards on the Mac Pro is costly.
Yeah, I really don't know why people keep counting Merom out for the iMac. Granted, we don't know which way Apple will go, but Conroe is an option for sure.
Mobility RADEON X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory operates at 209MHz/270MHz (core/memory) clock-speeds in 2D mode and at 473/936MHz (core/memory) in 3D mode.
Look up your facts before posting please.
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SpacetitoX clocked the graphics processor (GPU) at 310MHz, 35 percent slower then ATI's recommended 475MHz. He also clocked the MacBook's graphics RAM at 278MHz, 41 percent below the 470MHz par ATI tells system makers to use.
As I said, get it right. Jeez.
Jeez indeed, just accept that the iMac's GPU is clocked like a typical MR, whereas the MBP's is clocked lower, and a desktop version (non-M) is clocked yet higher.
What do you think a "Mobility Radeon X1600" is, if not an "ATi made X1600 mobility"?
Jeez indeed, just accept that the iMac's GPU is clocked like a typical MR, whereas the MBP's is clocked lower, and a desktop version (non-M) is clocked yet higher.
Wrong, read my above post.
So tell me, where do you get the impression that Asus does not "overclock"?
ATI doesn't allow OEMs to factory overclock.
There is no such thing as "factory overclocking". As a nerd with too much time in your hands and too much money from your parents, you can overclock. As a company, you can clock higher or lower, but not "over"clock.
You can overclock. It means having the clocks over spec from what ATI tells you they are supposed to be. If ATI says you can make your graphics cards 650MHz, and you sell them for 20 dollars more and say that yours are faster because the core is 660MHz, then you're factory overclocking.
So tell me, where do you get the impression that Asus does not "overclock"?
I've been using Asus hardware for years and they've never overclocked.. if they started recently that'd just be weird.
Asus is known for making hardware that lasts an incredibly long time. Apple uses Asus components in some of their hardware.
I've nothing concrete to add, just thought I'd throw that out there.