Crucial Mac Pro RAM?

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Why is it taking Crucial so long to produce suitable memory upgrades for the Mac Pro?



If you have a look at the self service manuals for the Mac Pro, it's Micron/Crucial memory with a silver heatsink that Apple are using themselves..?
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  • Reply 1 of 71
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Maybe because getting Apple-spec RAM heatsinks into production takes more than fifteen days? I'm guessing that crucial is going to try to mimic the look of the heatsink as well.
  • Reply 2 of 71
    messiahmessiah Posts: 1,689member
    Yeah could be.



    Here's the link to the Apple manual featuring the Crucial/Micron memory:



    http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Mac...erCard-DIY.pdf
  • Reply 3 of 71
    i thought newegg planned to carry it by end of the week.
  • Reply 4 of 71
    slugheadslughead Posts: 1,169member
    You know you can buy the ram and heatsinks separately and attach them yourself saving money and shipping time...



    just get VGA RAM heat sinks.
  • Reply 5 of 71
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by slughead


    You know you can buy the ram and heatsinks separately and attach them yourself saving money and shipping time...



    just get VGA RAM heat sinks.



    I've seen DIMM heat sink kits, that's probably more suitable. When I get to the point where I can afford to upgrade and Mac Pro RAM hasn't come down to a reasonable price. I figure maybe I'll pay $20/DIMM more than standard FB-DIMM + separate heatsink cost, otherwise I'll go that route.
  • Reply 6 of 71
    messiahmessiah Posts: 1,689member
    I've just opened up my new Mac Pro to find that it has Micron memory installed. Something smells fishy here.



    How come Micron's memory is good enough to fit at the factory, but not good enough to sell on their website? I think I smell a contra-deal here.
  • Reply 7 of 71
    Is it identical to the RAM on their site, or does it just say Micron on it? Apple only says their RAM has bigger heatsinks. They could well be buying the RAM and heatsinks, tossing them together, and adding a premium.
  • Reply 8 of 71
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Messiah


    Something smells fishy here.



    It's your sig.
  • Reply 9 of 71
    messiahmessiah Posts: 1,689member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Placebo


    It's your sig.



    Hehehe...
  • Reply 10 of 71
    messiahmessiah Posts: 1,689member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZachPruckowski


    Is it identical to the RAM on their site, or does it just say Micron on it? Apple only says their RAM has bigger heatsinks. They could well be buying the RAM and heatsinks, tossing them together, and adding a premium.



    The memory from Micron (£566.34):

    http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/part...2KIT25672AF667



    The same memory from Apple (£1009.99):

    http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObje...?nclm=D4BD998B



    By my reckoning, that's a £443.65 ($837.79) price premium for those little heatsinks. At £110.91 ($209.44) each you have to ask what kind of metal they are manufactured from ? solid gold?



    Do you think it's worth paying the premium for the 'compatible' product?
  • Reply 11 of 71
    londorlondor Posts: 258member
    Crucial is offering now 512MB sticks for the Mac Pro at £66 ($100).



    http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/list...+Pro&submit=Go
  • Reply 12 of 71
    Didn't say it was worth it, I just wanted to know if Apple at least had the decency to add said heatsink, or if they bought it with the heat-sink attached.
  • Reply 13 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Londor


    Crucial is offering now 512MB sticks for the Mac Pro at £66 ($100).



    http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/list...+Pro&submit=Go



    Yes, but where the heck are the 1GB sticks?
  • Reply 14 of 71
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Here:



    http://www.transintl.com/store/categ...estTimeOut=500



    Or at OWC for slightly higher.
  • Reply 15 of 71
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Placebo


    Here:



    http://www.transintl.com/store/categ...estTimeOut=500



    Or at OWC for slightly higher.



    What is that running, about $75 per heat sink?
  • Reply 16 of 71
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Well it's ECC which means more expensive than your standard RAM. On Newegg, ECC 512MB modules list for about $90 each, so you're paying about $10 per heatsink I'd say.



    You're not getting robbed nearly as much as your $75 calculation suggests, maybe $20 for two sticks over normal prices at most.
  • Reply 17 of 71
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Placebo


    Well it's ECC which means more expensive than your standard RAM. On Newegg, ECC 512MB modules list for about $90 each, so you're paying about $10 per heatsink I'd say.



    You're not getting robbed nearly as much as your $75 calculation suggests, maybe $20 for two sticks over normal prices at most.



    My numbers were off, but I simply don't know how you got your numbers either. I have no problem paying more for ECC. Most of the price difference with standard DIMMS vs ECC DIMM can be accounted for the cost of the additional memory chip. The cost difference between FB-DIMM and Mac Pro FB-DIMM was what I was objecting to.



    Your TransIntl link has 2x 1GB Mac Pro FB-DIMMs at $500. Two pieces of standard 1GB FB-DIMM, ECC @ 667MHz at Newegg totals about $340. That leaves a difference of $160, $80 per stick, $40 per heat sink.



    Normally ECC isn't so expensive, but the fact that it's a new, specialized type of memory means it's rediculously expensive, $170/GB for ECC 667 FB-DIMM vs. standard 667 ECC DDR2 $120. Most TransIntl Mac Pro certified FB-DIMM offerings are around $250/GB
  • Reply 18 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM


    That leaves a difference of $160, $80 per stick, $40 per heat sink.



    I dunno - I don't recall Apple ever selling RAM at a competitive price. They're a middle man, so split that $40 by two, half to being a middle man, and half to the piece of mind. *shrug*



    I could have tried to improve that explanation, but I'm too busy pricing out RAM at Crucial.com.
  • Reply 19 of 71
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SharkBait


    I dunno - I don't recall Apple ever selling RAM at a competitive price.



    Sadly, the prices I stated weren't even Apple's prices. It's from a third party selling Mac Pro compatible memory.
  • Reply 20 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM


    Sadly, the prices I stated weren't even Apple's prices. It's from a third party selling Mac Pro compatible memory.







    Stupid headcold = stupid Sharkbait. Bed time.
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