32% plus a 25% VAT%?? Ouch! I bet you get more from your government though than we do at times. Our healthcare is totally f###ed up. We have great medical technology, but fewer and fewer people can afford it. Our politicians are completely
owned by big business so I doubt things will change much short-term
I live in the UK and when I was employed 25% of my wage would disappear each month thanks to National Insurance and Income Tax. We are now being told that if we want decent healthcare (i.e. the treatment arrives before your condition gets morbidly worse) we have to pay for it on top of the taxes we already pay. By the time we retire there will be no state pension, even although we've all been paying in to it the whole of our working lives.
You might have to pay for private health insurance and pensions in the US, but at least you don't have to pay for them twice!
On top of that, we pay 17.5% VAT (Value Added Tax) on virtually everything. VAT was original introduced as a tax on luxury items, but successive governments have managed to apply it to everything including hot meals and heating your own home. There was somebody on the radio a while back who claimed that by the time we had paid all out taxes, the average person in the UK was paying somewhere in the region of 55% tax.
So it doesn't really matter who you work for, in the UK we all work for the Chancellor first and ourselves second. I don't think I could afford to live in the UK if I wasn't self employed.
Super stoked. 2' imac just arrived. BTO 2Gb ram and 7600GT gpu....... SUPER BUMMED... Computer is DOA!!! Hard drive is either bad or disconnected. Now I have to wait for the return shipping labels and bring it to FedEx....
Super stoked. 2' imac just arrived. BTO 2Gb ram and 7600GT gpu....... SUPER BUMMED... Computer is DOA!!! Hard drive is either bad or disconnected. Now I have to wait for the return shipping labels and bring it to FedEx....
2', I see what you done there. You must be a genius
I live in the UK and when I was employed 25% of my wage would disappear each month thanks to National Insurance and Income Tax. We are now being told that if we want decent healthcare (i.e. the treatment arrives before your condition gets morbidly worse) we have to pay for it on top of the taxes we already pay. By the time we retire there will be no state pension, even although we've all been paying in to it the whole of our working lives.
You might have to pay for private health insurance and pensions in the US, but at least you don't have to pay for them twice!
On top of that, we pay 17.5% VAT (Value Added Tax) on virtually everything. VAT was original introduced as a tax on luxury items, but successive governments have managed to apply it to everything including hot meals and heating your own home. There was somebody on the radio a while back who claimed that by the time we had paid all out taxes, the average person in the UK was paying somewhere in the region of 55% tax.
So it doesn't really matter who you work for, in the UK we all work for the Chancellor first and ourselves second. I don't think I could afford to live in the UK if I wasn't self employed.
This is all really good stuff guys, thanks for the great posts in this thread. Came in looking to read something about an iMac, but found something much more interesting in conversation of VATs and social systems.
Finland has about the same system as Sweden, we have a 22% VAT. Also, many people who earn decent money pay taxes that can go as high as 50-65%! Normal level would be around 30-40% I suppose. If you work a shitjob, you get taxed lowed, around 15% or so, but then again, you're not making anything anyway.
All the decisions come down to a larger schema, whether the policy is to balance the individuals chance of a good healthy life with some money to spend, or to give everyone a shot at the stars, but good luck if you don't make it. In Finland with the EU a problem has risen where highly-educated academics and professionals are leaving the country to work in the States or western Europe due to the outrageous taxing policy.
I certainly don't envy the politicians job, near impossible to keep a working social system while letting those earn their millions who've got to that point. Of course, they never forget the annual raise on their own salaries, while university students (yes I am) haven't got a raise to their support in 15 years.
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And .... HL2 is it good ?
Running HL2 at native res with everything maxed out. Runs perfect!
32% plus a 25% VAT%?? Ouch! I bet you get more from your government though than we do at times. Our healthcare is totally f###ed up. We have great medical technology, but fewer and fewer people can afford it. Our politicians are completely
owned by big business so I doubt things will change much short-term
Any complaints about your cool 24 incher?
No complaints
Im betting counter-strike should be quite nice too eh
Running HL2 at native res with everything maxed out. Runs perfect!
...Man. That looks spectacular.
You might have to pay for private health insurance and pensions in the US, but at least you don't have to pay for them twice!
On top of that, we pay 17.5% VAT (Value Added Tax) on virtually everything. VAT was original introduced as a tax on luxury items, but successive governments have managed to apply it to everything including hot meals and heating your own home. There was somebody on the radio a while back who claimed that by the time we had paid all out taxes, the average person in the UK was paying somewhere in the region of 55% tax.
So it doesn't really matter who you work for, in the UK we all work for the Chancellor first and ourselves second. I don't think I could afford to live in the UK if I wasn't self employed.
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Sorry for the poor quality, my camera sucks
Super stoked. 2' imac just arrived. BTO 2Gb ram and 7600GT gpu....... SUPER BUMMED... Computer is DOA!!! Hard drive is either bad or disconnected. Now I have to wait for the return shipping labels and bring it to FedEx....
2', I see what you done there. You must be a genius
I live in the UK and when I was employed 25% of my wage would disappear each month thanks to National Insurance and Income Tax. We are now being told that if we want decent healthcare (i.e. the treatment arrives before your condition gets morbidly worse) we have to pay for it on top of the taxes we already pay. By the time we retire there will be no state pension, even although we've all been paying in to it the whole of our working lives.
You might have to pay for private health insurance and pensions in the US, but at least you don't have to pay for them twice!
On top of that, we pay 17.5% VAT (Value Added Tax) on virtually everything. VAT was original introduced as a tax on luxury items, but successive governments have managed to apply it to everything including hot meals and heating your own home. There was somebody on the radio a while back who claimed that by the time we had paid all out taxes, the average person in the UK was paying somewhere in the region of 55% tax.
So it doesn't really matter who you work for, in the UK we all work for the Chancellor first and ourselves second. I don't think I could afford to live in the UK if I wasn't self employed.
This is all really good stuff guys, thanks for the great posts in this thread. Came in looking to read something about an iMac, but found something much more interesting in conversation of VATs and social systems.
Finland has about the same system as Sweden, we have a 22% VAT. Also, many people who earn decent money pay taxes that can go as high as 50-65%! Normal level would be around 30-40% I suppose. If you work a shitjob, you get taxed lowed, around 15% or so, but then again, you're not making anything anyway.
All the decisions come down to a larger schema, whether the policy is to balance the individuals chance of a good healthy life with some money to spend, or to give everyone a shot at the stars, but good luck if you don't make it. In Finland with the EU a problem has risen where highly-educated academics and professionals are leaving the country to work in the States or western Europe due to the outrageous taxing policy.
I certainly don't envy the politicians job, near impossible to keep a working social system while letting those earn their millions who've got to that point. Of course, they never forget the annual raise on their own salaries, while university students (yes I am) haven't got a raise to their support in 15 years.
BTW did you get throught them all???