Maybe it's just me, but what I want out of the iPhone is an iPod that also makes calls, not a phone that also plays music. I have a phone that also plays music and it sucks. If you receive a call you can either ignore it or end your music playing session and your place in whatever playlist you were in. I want to just listen to music, take a minute or two to answer the call, then go back to listening to my music like there was no interruption.
I second the idea of ditching the camera. I rarely use mine except by accident (it's odd how many pictures of total blackness end up on my phone).
Won't this make the phone cheaper? I could do with a new phone and I'd love it to be this. I am a 100% Apple fan and this along with my iPod and my Mac would just be perfect.
Apple is entering a whole new market though. There's all this business of networks and locking phones, but I think they'll sell them by themselves in Apple Retail Stores, and let specific carriers sell them in their shops with their SIM cards. The mobile area isn't great IMO, and hopefully Apple can innovate, creating the area a much better one.
For the iPhone to be successful, Apple has to launch it simultaneously in China and India. India added something like 6 million new connections in October itself. The bottom line is: You just can not ignore the fastest growing cell phone markets. If you look at the iPod, it's way overpriced in Asia. Apple can't afford to overcharge(especially in Asia) for their upcoming phone.
Maybe it's just me, but what I want out of the iPhone is an iPod that also makes calls, not a phone that also plays music. I have a phone that also plays music and it sucks. If you receive a call you can either ignore it or end your music playing session and your place in whatever playlist you were in. I want to just listen to music, take a minute or two to answer the call, then go back to listening to my music like there was no interruption.
You just have a crap phone. My ancient P910 does what you want already.
As ever, the problem with many of the phones on the market today are in the details. It'll take someone as anal as Apple to sort out the details.
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I second the idea of ditching the camera. I rarely use mine except by accident (it's odd how many pictures of total blackness end up on my phone).
Depends how crap you camera is too. I've a couple of phones with VGA res cameras - almost useless. The newer 2+ and 3+ megapixel cameras however are good enough for websites and handy enough for most snaps when you don't want to carry a proper camera.
The camera's sole purpose is not for taking photos, per say...
I was a consultant who has worked for Apple in the UK and also with T-Mobile and I can say without a doubt the camera is not for taking snaps.
Lets just say ichat....and im not simply talking mobile to mobile here!
I have already contirbuted some news to the site a few months ago but because of the litegious nature of my work and also the fact that we would love to work with Apple again i have to be extremely careful.
i thought the same about the camera, that they're coming out with 3+ nowadays, but then I thought 2MP is fine for Multimedia messaging
They fit the iSight into the MB & MBP, and that serves most purposes. I wouldn't mid being able to snap a picture that appears when the person calls (like I do on my phone now), and having it show up in the address book in thier profile on my MBP, too. I don't really think camera phones were meant to replace a camera, but more a fun gimic for sending picture SMS messages.
Oh God -- I hope this isn't true. I HATE camera phones. Just a really dumb concept. Instead why not concentrate on making a rock-solid phone with super long battery life, superior voice quality, and can hold a signal in an elevator or sub-basement?
I think that might have something to do with the lack of signal in an elevator or basement not the phone.
Maybe they should try and make it work underwater too.
1) One might be tempted to conclude that 2MP is probably enough in an initial (US-only) rollout. Reasons? Most service providers in the US don't allow one to easily tap into the functionality of a camera phone anyway (e.g., being able to send it as an email attachment to someone without having to subscribe to their stupid 'value-added' -- i.e., overpriced -- ancillary services). Often, it is good for no more than wallpaper on a tiny screen. Furthermore, even if emailing was an easy option with service providers, it takes way too long send attachments of photos taken with more than 2MP cameras.
That said, this device is going to be able to sync with iTunes and iPhoto -- so Apple is potentially missing an opportunity here by not going 3+MP.
2) anandbatra makes a great point above: Apple should introduce this thing in the humongous and fast-growig markets such as India and China simultaneoulsy, and at lower price points -- now that would take AAPL's stock price into the stratosphere!
Maybe it's just me, but what I want out of the iPhone is an iPod that also makes calls, not a phone that also plays music. I have a phone that also plays music and it sucks. If you receive a call you can either ignore it or end your music playing session and your place in whatever playlist you were in. I want to just listen to music, take a minute or two to answer the call, then go back to listening to my music like there was no interruption.
You just have a crap phone. My ancient P910 does what you want already.
In fact, all the Sony Ericsson phones from the WALKMAN, Cybershot and Smartphone serie do that. Some of the latest Nokia N-series phones do that too (though the N90 and N70 didn't).
In fact, all the Sony Ericsson phones from the WALKMAN, Cybershot and Smartphone serie do that. Some of the latest Nokia N-series phones do that too (though the N90 and N70 didn't).
I tihnk people are missing the boat here somewhat.
In short this is Apples first device which can communicate using a special client IM software which can enable Mac to Mobile Video chat.
The whole point being it doesnt need a large MP camera device to achieve this but rather the bandwidth of the 3g network.
Though there are a number of highly disruptive technologies in the Iphone and this is one of about 6.
I was thinking the exact same thing a few weeks ago. There is no way at the moment to video chat between a a computer and a phone... Also Apple put alot of focus on ichat and it seems to make sense that they will have this secret feature which your revealing.
ichat on your phone and computer is not only genius but its soooo apple.......
I hope it sells in the UK... By the way I read ure earlier post about beta software 4, u seem very interesting..... Please dont get sacked... we want more info from u first....,(only jokin)
p.s is there anything else you can reveal... such as what it looks like...
I saw a preproduction model in London about July last year. At the time Apple was talking to T-mobile who have a great deal of experience in MVNO's i was contracted to look at feasibility of the network as well as differentiating the products features. I got the feeling it was dumbed down, as to not give too much away. ( it used a really crap screen ) apparently they had got these knocked up purely to showcase the UI.
Sadly Apple like you to work in isolation, we joked it was like a terrorist cell, that way they can cut you off without you knowing too much.
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I second the idea of ditching the camera. I rarely use mine except by accident (it's odd how many pictures of total blackness end up on my phone).
Apple is entering a whole new market though. There's all this business of networks and locking phones, but I think they'll sell them by themselves in Apple Retail Stores, and let specific carriers sell them in their shops with their SIM cards. The mobile area isn't great IMO, and hopefully Apple can innovate, creating the area a much better one.
-tj
http://www.gsmarena.com/n73_d900_k80...review-102.php
On October 19th, Nokia sold 4 lakh(400000) phones in a single day all over India. It's the most number of phones Nokia has sold in a single day ever. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...how/154358.cms
I think Apple can replicate this, provided they market their phone properly. However, I don't see this happening.
I do hope that they will come out with a Treo like phone as well, someday.
Maybe it's just me, but what I want out of the iPhone is an iPod that also makes calls, not a phone that also plays music. I have a phone that also plays music and it sucks. If you receive a call you can either ignore it or end your music playing session and your place in whatever playlist you were in. I want to just listen to music, take a minute or two to answer the call, then go back to listening to my music like there was no interruption.
You just have a crap phone. My ancient P910 does what you want already.
As ever, the problem with many of the phones on the market today are in the details. It'll take someone as anal as Apple to sort out the details.
I second the idea of ditching the camera. I rarely use mine except by accident (it's odd how many pictures of total blackness end up on my phone).
Depends how crap you camera is too. I've a couple of phones with VGA res cameras - almost useless. The newer 2+ and 3+ megapixel cameras however are good enough for websites and handy enough for most snaps when you don't want to carry a proper camera.
The camera's sole purpose is not for taking photos, per say...
I was a consultant who has worked for Apple in the UK and also with T-Mobile and I can say without a doubt the camera is not for taking snaps.
Lets just say ichat....and im not simply talking mobile to mobile here!
I have already contirbuted some news to the site a few months ago but because of the litegious nature of my work and also the fact that we would love to work with Apple again i have to be extremely careful.
i thought the same about the camera, that they're coming out with 3+ nowadays, but then I thought 2MP is fine for Multimedia messaging
They fit the iSight into the MB & MBP, and that serves most purposes. I wouldn't mid being able to snap a picture that appears when the person calls (like I do on my phone now), and having it show up in the address book in thier profile on my MBP, too. I don't really think camera phones were meant to replace a camera, but more a fun gimic for sending picture SMS messages.
Oh God -- I hope this isn't true. I HATE camera phones. Just a really dumb concept. Instead why not concentrate on making a rock-solid phone with super long battery life, superior voice quality, and can hold a signal in an elevator or sub-basement?
I think that might have something to do with the lack of signal in an elevator or basement not the phone.
Maybe they should try and make it work underwater too.
i thought the same about the camera, that they're coming out with 3+ nowadays, but then I thought 2MP is fine for Multimedia messaging
People actually use multi-media messaging?
That said, this device is going to be able to sync with iTunes and iPhoto -- so Apple is potentially missing an opportunity here by not going 3+MP.
2) anandbatra makes a great point above: Apple should introduce this thing in the humongous and fast-growig markets such as India and China simultaneoulsy, and at lower price points -- now that would take AAPL's stock price into the stratosphere!
I think that might have something to do with the lack of signal in an elevator or basement not the phone.
Maybe they should try and make it work underwater too.
And in space too. If they stick a big enough aerial on it I'm sure it could get past the Van Allen belts*.
* No they aren't what are used to keep 80's hair rock spandex pants up.
In short this is Apples first device which can communicate using a special client IM software which can enable Mac to Mobile Video chat.
The whole point being it doesnt need a large MP camera device to achieve this but rather the bandwidth of the 3g network.
Though there are a number of highly disruptive technologies in the Iphone and this is one of about 6.
What's with the iPod pic in the top banner?? http://www.largan.com.tw/products_camera_en.htm
Looks to me like Largan is trying to convince clone makers (and possibly Apple) to include a camera in their devices.
Maybe it's just me, but what I want out of the iPhone is an iPod that also makes calls, not a phone that also plays music. I have a phone that also plays music and it sucks. If you receive a call you can either ignore it or end your music playing session and your place in whatever playlist you were in. I want to just listen to music, take a minute or two to answer the call, then go back to listening to my music like there was no interruption.
You just have a crap phone. My ancient P910 does what you want already.
In fact, all the Sony Ericsson phones from the WALKMAN, Cybershot and Smartphone serie do that. Some of the latest Nokia N-series phones do that too (though the N90 and N70 didn't).
In fact, all the Sony Ericsson phones from the WALKMAN, Cybershot and Smartphone serie do that. Some of the latest Nokia N-series phones do that too (though the N90 and N70 didn't).
Yeah my SE w800 does that too.
I tihnk people are missing the boat here somewhat.
In short this is Apples first device which can communicate using a special client IM software which can enable Mac to Mobile Video chat.
The whole point being it doesnt need a large MP camera device to achieve this but rather the bandwidth of the 3g network.
Though there are a number of highly disruptive technologies in the Iphone and this is one of about 6.
I was thinking the exact same thing a few weeks ago. There is no way at the moment to video chat between a a computer and a phone... Also Apple put alot of focus on ichat and it seems to make sense that they will have this secret feature which your revealing.
ichat on your phone and computer is not only genius but its soooo apple.......
I hope it sells in the UK... By the way I read ure earlier post about beta software 4, u seem very interesting..... Please dont get sacked... we want more info from u first....,(only jokin)
p.s is there anything else you can reveal... such as what it looks like...
Sadly Apple like you to work in isolation, we joked it was like a terrorist cell, that way they can cut you off without you knowing too much.