1. Core Animation- I'm interested in Apple's creative apps and having a subset of animation features available in every OS is going to be cool from a UI and application perspective.
2. Improved User Interface- Hopefully MWSF allows Apple to unveil a new look for OSX. They've consistently improved things and I think they will have something that really impresses.
3. Rez Independent UI- With 22" LCD down to 349 dollars it's time to give us the flexibility to scale the UI to match our needs.
4. General Improvements- Looking forward to seeing Core stuff improve like Core Audio and Core Data. I expect many of the new technologies that came with Tiger will be spit polished.
There's nothing that is "knock my socks off" cool but I wasn't expecting that anyways. Leopard is OS X really coming of age. I'm really enjoying Tiger. It's the best OS I've ever used. Leopard is just going to add more sweetness and functionality. I can't wait.
Improved User Interface- Hopefully MWSF allows Apple to unveil a new look for OSX. They've consistently improved things and I think they will have something that really impresses.
To me that is already an improvement, although I don't expect this to be the 'leopard look'
To me it looks like an old Linux interface. For the most part, I wouldn't mind and it certainly looks more professional but I agree, I don't think it will look like that.
iLife is generally released as as separate package, either before or after OS X releases. They will want to sell as many copies of iLife '07 as they can, so it is very doubtful that it will be included in Leopard.
The main benefit AFAIAC for Leopard is to get non-beta system software for Intel Macs
Okay, suppose Boot Camp will expire just before Tiger is released - and something happens in the program to prevent the boot screen appearing when you hold down Option. Are we going to be stuck with a Windows partition that we cannot access or reclaim (since that is a boot camp feature too)?
Because if that is going to be the case, Apple really need to announce in good time that you need to get rid of it or your only option will be to reformat the whole drive.
I personally can't see it becoming suddenly disabled. I have no intention of upgrading an operating system on a three month old computer. I still use Windows 98 on my PC and it suits me fine - I prefer it to XP in fact. That said, I don't want to be stuck with a 20 gig black hole on my mac.
Okay, suppose Boot Camp will expire just before Tiger is released - and something happens in the program to prevent the boot screen appearing when you hold down Option. Are we going to be stuck with a Windows partition that we cannot access or reclaim (since that is a boot camp feature too)?
Because if that is going to be the case, Apple really need to announce in good time that you need to get rid of it or your only option will be to reformat the whole drive.
I'm pretty sure you can at least erase the partition and re-format it as HFS (so that you can use the space), and you might be able to erase the partition and then non-destructively change your Mac OS X partition to take up the whole drive.
But even if Apple removes "Boot Camp" as a feature of Tiger, they can't re-update the firmware to remove Windows support. Which means someone can easily write a program to get you back in good shape.
For what it's worth, I will probably be buying just for time machine alone. A easy to use, comprehensive, automatic, and unobtrustive backup software is worth 120$ right there.
For what it's worth, I will probably be buying just for time machine alone. A easy to use, comprehensive, automatic, and unobtrustive backup software is worth 120$ right there.
Very true. I'm hoping though (rather naively) for something truly revolutionary like a fully bootable ZFS Leopard.
I don't see anything in the features they have so far revealed that excites me at all. File backup with a pretty space background: WHO CARES? Spaces: meh, we already have Expose.
But then again, I thought the same thing about the stuff in Tiger. Fast search and Konfabulaotr built in: I don't need this. And now I can't even imagine going back to Panther.
So maybe once I actually use Leopard I will see how useful the features are, but reading about them fails to excite me.
I don't see anything in the features they have so far revealed that excites me at all. File backup with a pretty space background: WHO CARES? Spaces: meh, we already have Expose.
But then again, I thought the same thing about the stuff in Tiger. Fast search and Konfabulaotr built in: I don't need this. And now I can't even imagine going back to Panther.
So maybe once I actually use Leopard I will see how useful the features are, but reading about them fails to excite me.
The people who will care about Time Machine are the people who don't regularly Backup because they don't have an easy enough solution, or just don't want to be bothered. They may feel compelled to run out and buy an External HDD with Time Machine though.
will then timemachine replace "superduper" as best backup software??
Dunno about Superduper, never used it. I do plan to use Time Machine in combination with Backup, because from where I'm standing, Time Machine, it just doesn't seem like a complete backup solution. I'll figure that out later.
The people who will care about Time Machine are the people who don't regularly Backup because they don't have an easy enough solution, or just don't want to be bothered.
I disagree with you on that. I think the people who truly care about Time Machine are actually people who regularly back-up.
I disagree with you on that. I think the people who truly care about Time Machine are actually people who regularly back-up.
Well think of it like this. With Time Machine being completely System Wide, Apple is going to push people to do regular backups. Those with Desktops will have an especially easy time with this, all it will require is dropping the cash for a External HDD, plugging it into your Mac, and running through the Time Machine Setup wizard. Those who don't do regular backups will be pushed to do them in every .pkg Install, as well as the likely chance that Backup will be brought down from the .Mac side of things (like iSync was, I think) and included with Leopard, with something else to take Backup's place in .Mac.
So yeah, Data Recovery is going to be huge in Leopard, I remember reading an article on AI about a new tool in Disk Utility as well.
I don't see anything in the features they have so far revealed that excites me at all. File backup with a pretty space background: WHO CARES? Spaces: meh, we already have Expose.
But then again, I thought the same thing about the stuff in Tiger. Fast search and Konfabulaotr built in: I don't need this. And now I can't even imagine going back to Panther.
So maybe once I actually use Leopard I will see how useful the features are, but reading about them fails to excite me.
I tend to agree. The closer Leopard gets the more I am left wondering what will be the feature(s) that excites me. Tiger had spotlight and that was da bomb. I am looking forward to Spaces and faster performance but Steve has left me wanting more. So far, he has just shown a lot of small things that my 5 year old neice could have predicted.
It will be interesting, especially if nothing cool shows up like Steve promised.
I tend to agree. The closer Leopard gets the more I am left wondering what will be the feature(s) that excites me. Tiger had spotlight and that was da bomb. I am looking forward to Spaces and faster performance but Steve has left me wanting more. So far, he has just shown a lot of small things that my 5 year old neice could have predicted.
It will be interesting, especially if nothing cool shows up like Steve promised.
He only said there were some Top Secret features. Who said they were cool?
Personally I'm looking forward to the iChat Answering Machine, I rather like the idea and I kind of wanted it in Mail, but iChat is the next best thing I guess.
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1. Core Animation- I'm interested in Apple's creative apps and having a subset of animation features available in every OS is going to be cool from a UI and application perspective.
2. Improved User Interface- Hopefully MWSF allows Apple to unveil a new look for OSX. They've consistently improved things and I think they will have something that really impresses.
3. Rez Independent UI- With 22" LCD down to 349 dollars it's time to give us the flexibility to scale the UI to match our needs.
4. General Improvements- Looking forward to seeing Core stuff improve like Core Audio and Core Data. I expect many of the new technologies that came with Tiger will be spit polished.
There's nothing that is "knock my socks off" cool but I wasn't expecting that anyways. Leopard is OS X really coming of age. I'm really enjoying Tiger. It's the best OS I've ever used. Leopard is just going to add more sweetness and functionality. I can't wait.
Improved User Interface- Hopefully MWSF allows Apple to unveil a new look for OSX. They've consistently improved things and I think they will have something that really impresses.
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To me that is already an improvement, although I don't expect this to be the 'leopard look'
To me that is already an improvement, although I don't expect this to be the 'leopard look'
To me it looks like an old Linux interface. For the most part, I wouldn't mind and it certainly looks more professional but I agree, I don't think it will look like that.
The main benefit AFAIAC for Leopard is to get non-beta system software for Intel Macs
Because if that is going to be the case, Apple really need to announce in good time that you need to get rid of it or your only option will be to reformat the whole drive.
I personally can't see it becoming suddenly disabled. I have no intention of upgrading an operating system on a three month old computer. I still use Windows 98 on my PC and it suits me fine - I prefer it to XP in fact. That said, I don't want to be stuck with a 20 gig black hole on my mac.
Okay, suppose Boot Camp will expire just before Tiger is released - and something happens in the program to prevent the boot screen appearing when you hold down Option. Are we going to be stuck with a Windows partition that we cannot access or reclaim (since that is a boot camp feature too)?
Because if that is going to be the case, Apple really need to announce in good time that you need to get rid of it or your only option will be to reformat the whole drive.
I'm pretty sure you can at least erase the partition and re-format it as HFS (so that you can use the space), and you might be able to erase the partition and then non-destructively change your Mac OS X partition to take up the whole drive.
But even if Apple removes "Boot Camp" as a feature of Tiger, they can't re-update the firmware to remove Windows support. Which means someone can easily write a program to get you back in good shape.
For what it's worth, I will probably be buying just for time machine alone. A easy to use, comprehensive, automatic, and unobtrustive backup software is worth 120$ right there.
Very true. I'm hoping though (rather naively) for something truly revolutionary like a fully bootable ZFS Leopard.
But then again, I thought the same thing about the stuff in Tiger. Fast search and Konfabulaotr built in: I don't need this. And now I can't even imagine going back to Panther.
So maybe once I actually use Leopard I will see how useful the features are, but reading about them fails to excite me.
I don't see anything in the features they have so far revealed that excites me at all. File backup with a pretty space background: WHO CARES? Spaces: meh, we already have Expose.
But then again, I thought the same thing about the stuff in Tiger. Fast search and Konfabulaotr built in: I don't need this. And now I can't even imagine going back to Panther.
So maybe once I actually use Leopard I will see how useful the features are, but reading about them fails to excite me.
The people who will care about Time Machine are the people who don't regularly Backup because they don't have an easy enough solution, or just don't want to be bothered. They may feel compelled to run out and buy an External HDD with Time Machine though.
Sebastian
will then timemachine replace "superduper" as best backup software??
Dunno about Superduper, never used it. I do plan to use Time Machine in combination with Backup, because from where I'm standing, Time Machine, it just doesn't seem like a complete backup solution. I'll figure that out later.
Sebastian
The people who will care about Time Machine are the people who don't regularly Backup because they don't have an easy enough solution, or just don't want to be bothered.
I disagree with you on that. I think the people who truly care about Time Machine are actually people who regularly back-up.
I disagree with you on that. I think the people who truly care about Time Machine are actually people who regularly back-up.
Well think of it like this. With Time Machine being completely System Wide, Apple is going to push people to do regular backups. Those with Desktops will have an especially easy time with this, all it will require is dropping the cash for a External HDD, plugging it into your Mac, and running through the Time Machine Setup wizard. Those who don't do regular backups will be pushed to do them in every .pkg Install, as well as the likely chance that Backup will be brought down from the .Mac side of things (like iSync was, I think) and included with Leopard, with something else to take Backup's place in .Mac.
So yeah, Data Recovery is going to be huge in Leopard, I remember reading an article on AI about a new tool in Disk Utility as well.
Sebastian
I don't see anything in the features they have so far revealed that excites me at all. File backup with a pretty space background: WHO CARES? Spaces: meh, we already have Expose.
But then again, I thought the same thing about the stuff in Tiger. Fast search and Konfabulaotr built in: I don't need this. And now I can't even imagine going back to Panther.
So maybe once I actually use Leopard I will see how useful the features are, but reading about them fails to excite me.
I tend to agree. The closer Leopard gets the more I am left wondering what will be the feature(s) that excites me. Tiger had spotlight and that was da bomb. I am looking forward to Spaces and faster performance but Steve has left me wanting more. So far, he has just shown a lot of small things that my 5 year old neice could have predicted.
It will be interesting, especially if nothing cool shows up like Steve promised.
I tend to agree. The closer Leopard gets the more I am left wondering what will be the feature(s) that excites me. Tiger had spotlight and that was da bomb. I am looking forward to Spaces and faster performance but Steve has left me wanting more. So far, he has just shown a lot of small things that my 5 year old neice could have predicted.
It will be interesting, especially if nothing cool shows up like Steve promised.
He only said there were some Top Secret features. Who said they were cool?
Personally I'm looking forward to the iChat Answering Machine, I rather like the idea and I kind of wanted it in Mail, but iChat is the next best thing I guess.
Sebastian
I disagree with you on that. I think the people who truly care about Time Machine are actually people who regularly back-up.
Hmm... I currently use "Backup" and have found it adequate. I'm worried I'll have to buy a 500GB drive to use Time Machine. Kinda bugs me...
Hmm... I currently use "Backup" and have found it adequate. I'm worried I'll have to buy a 500GB drive to use Time Machine. Kinda bugs me...
What do you backup to?