'Apple TV' coming to a living room near you

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in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014
The hard drive is a lot bigger than I thought it would be.
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  • Reply 1 of 95
    eckingecking Posts: 1,588member
    This seems pretty cool, I need more info on what it can play before I know if it has any use in my home though, I'm the only tech savy one.
  • Reply 2 of 95
    sandausandau Posts: 1,230member
    720p and no Widget support.



    I'll wait for rev. 2.1.
  • Reply 3 of 95
    I'm non-plussed by the appletv. I wasn't impressed when it was announced in September, and I'm still not impressed. It is simply a YAB (yet-another-box to crowd my already crowded AV center).



    Here's what it gives me:
    • A box that can stream my iTunes content to my TV.

    Here's what it doesn't give me:
    • Video on demand (nope, first I have to go to my den, purchase a movie from ITMS) then go back into my home-theater room and start streaming it from my new appletv - with my cable provider, from the comfort of my couch I just press a couple buttons on my remote and I'm RENTING a movie I want to watch once.

    • Replace my VCR or DVR; nope, still need my Tivo or VCR to record anything I watch on TV.

    • Oh yeah, and it costs me $300 for this extra box that will just stream stuff from my Mac in my den

    All that said, I think a future version of AppleTV could be a killer device, but it needs to be more integrated into the living room (as in working with my Mac is cool, but I should also be able to do more without leaving the couch). Further, there is really no excuse for it not including DVR functionality. It's like WTF were they thinking???



    Oh, and about the cost; I have this feeling that the streaming ability of it won't be that great on an 802.11g network, that's why they added the hard drive with the syncing, so if you do have multiple macs and want to do the live streaming from a non-synched mac, I have a feeling you'll almost need to buy a new Airport Extreme (of course this last statement is admittedly pure conjecture, but I have a strong feeling about it....)
  • Reply 4 of 95
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,073member
    I think that it is a good first attempt, but to get me to buy they need:



    - purchace controls from the TV itself, not the computer

    - rentals

    - 720p movies and TV shows from iTunes store
  • Reply 5 of 95
    The funny thing is, this thing is available for pre-order on the Canadian Apple store now too... But it's not possible to purchase any commercial video content on the Canadian iTunes store. No TV shows, no movies, nothing.



    What exactly can a Canadian customer do with it?
  • Reply 6 of 95
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,734member
    Apple TV will die a slow death. It's underpowered vs. the existing competitive products out there. No go.
  • Reply 7 of 95
    I agree, this is only just slightly more elegant than having my macbook hooked upto my 40" LCD through its PC connection. With the macbook and apple remote I can access the content on my HDD etc. With a wireless keyboard I could surf the internet too and purchase my itunes content. Put at least a DVD player or PVR and I can at least reduce the number of boxes below my TV by one.

    A bit disappointed.
  • Reply 8 of 95
    sandausandau Posts: 1,230member
    wow, 6ft gold plated white version 1.3 HDMI cables from Apple: $19.95. That is a bargain. Monster is $149+, the only place I've seen better is monoprice.com.



    good score...
  • Reply 9 of 95
    Well, like I said in September, I don't think (in it's present form) AppleTV will fair much better than the Cube did.
  • Reply 10 of 95
    benroethigbenroethig Posts: 2,782member
    To be honest, I don't see much of an incentive to replace my DVDs with this. The video quality and compression technology doesn't quite exist yet for this concept to be viable. The current videos need to get much smaller, or they have to be able to offer HD for the same file size.
  • Reply 11 of 95
    I will buy one immediately if it natively support H.264 encodes that were encoded with the x.264 codec, and also if it makes playing .ts streams easy. That is my main gripe about Xbox 360 is the lack of codec support. If this thing has robust codec support, then it will be a hit.
  • Reply 12 of 95
    aegisdesignaegisdesign Posts: 2,914member
    Available in the UK too at £199 inc VAT.



    I'm underwhelmed too.



    Like Canada, we've no content to buy on the iTunes Store either except a few Pixar shorts and some music videos. I don't really see the point in buying video though since I generally only watch it once - rental works better for me.
  • Reply 13 of 95
    jasenj1jasenj1 Posts: 910member
    Now if I could plug an eyeTV into it, or DVR features came built in, they MIGHT convince me. But as is, it doesn't do enough.



    But, it does compete with a Squeezebox - which I have and paid almost as much as an aTV for.



    Oh, and it'd also be nice if it functioned like an Airport Express, too. That would give it a little bit of dual use.



    Anyone know how well the XBox 360 integrates with a Mac?



    - Jasen.
  • Reply 14 of 95
    AppleInsiderAppleInsider Posts: 40,413administrator
    Apple on Tuesday premiered Apple TV -- its official name for iTV -- an easy to use device for the wireless playback of iTunes content on big-screen living room television sets.



    Using Apple TV's Mac OS X-based software interface, users can quickly browse and view their entire collection of digital media from across the room using the Apple Remote.



    Apple said the new set-top media hub will easily connect to almost all modern widescreen televisions, and will be shipping in February for $299.



    "Apple TV is like a DVD player for the 21st century -- you connect it to your entertainment system just like a DVD player, but it plays digital content you get from the Internet rather than DVDs you get from a physical store," said Apple chief executive Steve Jobs. "Apple TV plays the same iTunes content that users enjoy on their computers and iPods, so now they can even watch part of a movie in their living room, and watch the rest later on their iPod."



    Apple TV will ship with a 40GB hard drive to store up to 50 hours of video, 9,000 songs, 25,000 photos or a combination of each and is capable of delivering high-definition 720p output.



    Apple said the device is easy to connect to a broad range of widescreen TVs and home theater systems and comes standard with HDMI, component video, analog and optical audio ports.







    Using high-speed AirPort 802.11 wireless networking, Apple TV will auto-sync content from one computer or stream content from up to five additional computers right to a users' TV without any wires.



    The seamless integration of Apple TV and iTunes lets users choose from over 250 feature-length movies and 350 TV shows in near DVD quality; four million songs, 5,000 music videos, 100,000 podcasts and 20,000 audiobooks.



    Users can enjoy their favorite music on a home entertainment system and view slideshows of their photo albums on a widescreen TV simultaneously.







    Apple TV also makes it easy for users to explore their entire media collection from up to 30 feet away with an easy to use and intuitive new interface that include the Apple Remote.



    Pricing & Availability



    Apple TV, which includes the Apple Remote, will be shipping in February through the Apple Store, Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers for a suggested retail price of $299.



    Apple TV requires iTunes 7 or later running on a Mac with Mac OS X version 10.3.9 or later, or a Windows PC with Windows XP Home/Professional (SP2). An 802.11b/g/n wireless network using AirPort, AirPort Extreme or 10/100 Base-T Ethernet networking required. Internet access is required and a broadband connection is recommended. Apple TV requires an enhanced-definition or high-definition widescreen TV. iPod games will not play on Apple TV.
  • Reply 15 of 95
    carniphagecarniphage Posts: 1,984member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aegisdesign View Post


    Available in the UK too at £199 inc VAT.



    I'm underwhelmed too.



    Like Canada, we've no content to buy on the iTunes Store either except a few Pixar shorts and some music videos. I don't really see the point in buying video though since I generally only watch it once - rental works better for me.



    I think there is a widespread "missing-the-point" here.



    The hardware of the Apple TV is not really the big thing. Anyone can now make a network device which streams video to a TV.



    There's a bunch of them. Snazio, Netgear and now Apple. All cost about the same, although only Apple will have a hard drive. Although I suspect the user-experience of the Apple product will knock the others into a cocked hat.



    Speaking of cocked hats... the killer App for such streaming devices is, of course, internet porn. At last we can watch our bit-torrented oversized 36" double Ds our oversided 42" LCDs. Hallelujah!



    The only other real contender is I guess is Microsoft's XBox 360 which also has the added benefit of Gears of War and Halo 3. So I am conflicted. But the 360 does sound like a hair-dryer preparing for take-off.



    I think Apple's long-term plan is more significant. The Apple TV - in conjunction with iTunes (or Bit Torrent) can provide us with Hi Def content (and by content I mean Lost / Deadwood / Battlestar / 24 and so froth ) without the requirement to give money to NTL, advertisers or Rupert Murdoch.



    Now that's worth a couple of hundred portraits of Her Majesty in anyone's currency.



    C.
  • Reply 16 of 95
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    Quote:

    The hard drive is a lot bigger than I thought it would be.



    People doubted it would have a HD at all.



    Quote:

    Apple TV will die a slow death. It's underpowered vs. the existing competitive products out there. No go.



    I can agree Apple needs to get it up to 1080i playback.
  • Reply 17 of 95
    I just don't understand - will this let me watch DIVX tv shows I've downloaded from the bittorrrent network? If not, I can't watch anything as I live in Canada...



    Also, it simply won't work on a non-widescreen TV, or will it work and just show a wide aspect ratio on a 4:3 screen? Anyone know? I realize this is not yet out, but I thought maybe someone might know...
  • Reply 18 of 95
    filburtfilburt Posts: 398member
    Questions:
    1. AirPort: Can it be used as an AirPort Base Station? Or at least WDS for extending Wi-Fi range?

    2. Video: Only MPEG-4 and H.264 video codecs? It does not stream DVD from a remote Mac (similar to Front Row) nor support MPEG-2?

    3. Audio: No 5.1-channel Dolby Digital and/or DTS?

    4. Photos: Since iPod can view photos from Aperture, hopefully Apple TV can, too?

    5. What kind of Intel CPU? GPU? How much internal RAM?

    6. Apple Disk: Can I hook up external hard disk to its USB port and have it recognized as Apple Disk (Bonjour) or at least expand its disk space?

    7. iPod: Can it be used to sync iPod?

    8. iTunes Store: 720p video coming soon?

    9. Size: Why 7.7" by 7.7" instead of Mac mini and new AirPort Extreme's 6.5" by 6.5" width and depth?

  • Reply 19 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lfmorrison View Post


    The funny thing is, this thing is available for pre-order on the Canadian Apple store now too... But it's not possible to purchase any commercial video content on the Canadian iTunes store. No TV shows, no movies, nothing.



    What exactly can a Canadian customer do with it?



    I'm not too impressed... yet! I prefer purchasing my movies when they go on sale from places like Futureshop and store copies anyway (and I won't wait for Apple Canada to get it's act together). Considering the price of AppleTV and lack of available content to Canadians, I may spend the extra cash and go with a basic Mac Mini and video adapter, load all of my purchased as well as personally created music, photos and video on it and use Front Row (as well as its streaming capabilities) to hook up to my "old" non widescreen tubed television and stereo. In the end (and in addition to a vasic multimedia setup), I'll have and additional computer that I can use at home as well as bring elsewhere. At least Apple will still be happy enough to take my money....
  • Reply 20 of 95
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,202moderator
    I like that it has the hard drive to store things but £199, no thanks. £99 would have been great 'cos here's the thing. I just got a PVR with a digital tuner in it, built-in tv guide and 160GB hard drive for £199. I can record movies by just selecting the item in the guide and it has dual tuners so I can record two channels and watch another. I can transfer movies from it via USB to the computer albeit via Windows but I can't put anything onto it. This would have been an ideal solution for watching stuff off my computer but I'm not prepared to pay what I did for my PVR to get a feature I can live without given that I don't like Front Row anyway and I can cheaply burn a DVD to watch my computer movies.



    I like it and I may get one but it needs to come way down in price first.
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