Frankly, Pogue -- who's very influential, very hardworking, very astute, very funny, and gets great access, all adding up to quite a combination -- is somewhat over his head on this one. He had to post a follow-up to his original (somewhat cute-sy and overstated) claims. A number of readers (including moi) posted some rather informed and thoughtful (not including moi) questions/comments that seemed to contradict many of Pogue's assertions. He did a somewhat lame -- but nonetheless, brave -- job of responding.
Here's his original post (make sure to check out the comments section; to see Pogue's post, toggle up to top):
It is quite obvious that a lot of this stuff is up in the air, and none of us has a clue (just as NONE, I repeat NONE, of us came close to predicting or visualizing or anticipating what this seemingly revolutionary product finally turned out to be).
I think that, right now, iPhone predictions make good copy, and people are being seduced into wild speculation and counter-speculation. I suspect that Apple is watching and listening to a lot of this back-and-forth, and there are a few surprises up its sleeve on or before June.
Tuesday's big announcement by Steve, ... big snip ... a great ride.
I think we all got the idea with the announce date of June.
It's a working prototype, a trial balloon.
But IMHO I don't think Apple has any more time to muck with the HW if it actually ships in June, need final drawings, award contracts, parts orders, time to build (whoever builds it that is), and inventory.
About the only thing Apple can do is muck with the SW, and they can do that up to and through the iPhone launch.
About the only thing Apple can do is muck with the SW, and they can do that up to and through the iPhone launch.
Another great thing about the iPhone--like with Macs--is that firmware upgrades, security holes and bugs fixes will easily be updated through the updater. This is something I've found tough to do with all other cell phones. Even smartphones, as you're proactively required to access their support website to see if new updates are available.
No HSDPA support is simply lame. I won't be getting the phone before it's added.
Here in Ireland, we have almost 90% HSDPA coverage already. I've also found that recently, I am getting UMTS/HSDPA coverage almost anywhere I travel in Europe. "Until it's more widespread" is simply not true.
For US, it's sad that Apple is going with Cingular for the "high-speed WAN" access. Verizon and Sprint both offer EV-DO which has fantastic coverage and true broadband speed. I consistently get over 1 Mbps down and 200 Kbps up.
No iPhone for me if I have to use EDGE or wait at least two years for Cingular to put up HSDPA.
For US, it's sad that Apple is going with Cingular for the "high-speed WAN" access. Verizon and Sprint both offer EV-DO which has fantastic coverage and true broadband speed. I consistently get over 1 Mbps down and 200 Kbps up.
No iPhone for me if I have to use EDGE or wait at least two years for Cingular to put up HSDPA.
But they use CDMA. At least with the Apple working to improve AT&T's network, HSDPA will be coming faster to the US than it otherwise would have without the announcement of the iPhone.
Look at the big picture, no one is making you buy an iPhone, but all of our cell phones and cell service will benefit from its release.
Example, Cingular has already altered it's infrastructure to include Randon Access Voicemail (RAV). How long before other carriers and manufactures include this as well?
No Outlook-syncing on Windows-computers is a big dissapointment. Sure, I am a mac-user. but as many else I am forced to work with Windows everyday, and on my compay Exchange with Outlook is used for all planning and email. To not being able to sync with Outlook on my job is a huge dealbreaker for me, since it is necessary.
Hopefully David is wrong about this, because if it is correct, I think Apple would sell a lot fewer phones. I mean, even th iPod can today sync with Outlook, via iTunes.
My guess is that this is a misunderstanding; Apple says it won't sync with Outlook directly, but it will sync with iTunes and get data from Outlook through it.
No Outlook-syncing on Windows-computers is a big dissapointment. Sure, I am a mac-user. but as many else I am forced to work with Windows everyday, and on my compay Exchange with Outlook is used for all planning and email. To not being able to sync with Outlook on my job is a huge dealbreaker for me, since it is necessary.
Hopefully David is wrong about this, because if it is correct, I think Apple would sell a lot fewer phones. I mean, even th iPod can today sync with Outlook, via iTunes.
My guess is that this is a misunderstanding; Apple says it won't sync with Outlook directly, but it will sync with iTunes and get data from Outlook through it.
Outlook is widely used in the US federal government as well as the Office suite, if syncing is a must for seamless ease of use, it could be a big deal breaker for government users.
1. Who knows, they might introduce 3G for the european launch. 3G is after all available in Europe. And after all... it's a year from now we're talking about.
2. I guess Apple will start with letting 3d party developers develop widgets to the phone. You could do some really nifty "apps" with Widgets. I guess they'll eventually introduce iPhone apps to be purchased from the iTunes store.
3. I hope they won't lock the phone to one provider here in Europe... like vodafone or something. Eeek. That would be a strategic mistake. The cellphone operator business in Europe is very competitive and competent. Probably only 2 features that require operator specific functions anyway.
1. Who knows, they might introduce 3G for the european launch. 3G is after all available in Europe. And after all... it's a year from now we're talking about.
2. I guess Apple will start with letting 3d party developers develop widgets to the phone. You could do some really nifty "apps" with Widgets. I guess they'll eventually introduce iPhone apps to be purchased from the iTunes store.
3. I hope they won't lock the phone to one provider here in Europe... like vodafone or something. Eeek. That would be a strategic mistake. The cellphone operator business in Europe is very competitive and competent. Probably only 2 features that require operator specific functions anyway.
Thankfully, Vodafone has ceased to exist here in Sweden. Hated Vodafone, they branded their telephones way to much, and made them less functional then intended...
But still, if Visual Voicemail will require locking to a certain provider, I would probably accept it, because that is a killer feature.
Big mistake. At least if they want to sell many phones. I will probably still buy one, because I am an Apple Geek. But for most of the customers, no 3G will make the iPhone look obselete and utterly outdated compared to other offerings. Regardless of how much Core Animation, multi-touch, OS X, slick interface goodies the iPhone has; on the paper it will still look outdated. Sadly enough.
It is quite obvious that a lot of this stuff is up in the air, and none of us has a clue (just as NONE, I repeat NONE, of us came close to predicting or visualizing or anticipating what this seemingly revolutionary product finally turned out to be).
I think that, right now, iPhone predictions make good copy, and people are being seduced into wild speculation and counter-speculation. I suspect that Apple is watching and listening to a lot of this back-and-forth, and there are a few surprises up its sleeve on or before June.
I hope so because so far some of the answers Pogue has provided have sucked.
No Syncing via Bluetooth? - Every phone I've ever had has synced with AddressBook, iCal via iSync. It'll seriously suck if I have to use iTunes and carry a dock around. I know Apple seems to like shoving everything in to iTunes but please, no more. And please fix the iSync menubar tool!
No 3rd party apps, not even widgets - It's the perfect platform for writing widgets yourself.
No using iTunes tracks as ringtones - None of the phones I've got have this restriction. If iPhone has then WTF happened to Apple telling the carriers how a phone should work.
And that's leaving out the lack of 3G and less than average camera. I can only hope by the time it arrives here in Europe, all the above are sorted.
full Java engine would only be a "heavyweight ball and chain" no one uses.
This is really strange. I am not sure about USA, but here in Europe Java-based games are big part of mobile business.
As far as I was excited about iPhone, how can anyone call mobile phone a "smart phone" when this lacks ability to run 3rd party apps? There are mobile phones (not smart phones) with some web browsers and definitely with email client for ages. Web browsing and mail reading does not qualify mobile phone to be smart phone in my eyes.
I'm not the first one to ask, but who is apple targeting with this phone?
Is it business person? Then where is support for office formats, at least some very basic "mobile office" suite (or at least reader) and productivity tools?
Or is it young person that likes to have iPod and phone in one package? Then, in Europe, Java games will be missed a lot...
It looks like Apple is still fighting with Cingular (er, AT&T) over this. They charge $2.49 for a ringtone and really don't to lose that supplemental income.
No matter what phone and cell carrier you utilize, you have to thank Apple for their efforts. We are witness to a paradigm shift where a manufacture is making a cell carrier change. It won't be long before cell carriers will have to stop charging outrageous rates for something as simple as a ringtone, and all manufactures will finally have a chance to end their stagnant, limited functionality phones. A new era of mobile telephony and computing is upon us.
Cingular will fold because right now every other carrier is willing to join forces with Apple. AT&T is the largest cell carrier with 58M (25%), but how much more will they gather from the exclusive Apple deal? I'm guessing a lot more than a few overprices ringtones will bring them.
Well, this is a grand assumption. If Apple is still quibbling with Cingular over things like ringtones, even after announcing their exclusive deal, then I'd suspect Apple is on the losing end. Add to that how this is starting to sound like a closed platform for development, sounds like no support for VoIP, no Bluetooth sync ...
Where is the "paradigm shift where a manufacture is making a cell carrier change"? Sounds like Apple is pandering to the carrier on this one. If there is some huge paradigm shift here, I'm still waiting to see it. This is starting to sound like yet another phone whose innovative features were stifled by the carriers.
Big mistake. At least if they want to sell many phones. I will probably still buy one, because I am an Apple Geek. But for most of the customers, no 3G will make the iPhone look obselete and utterly outdated compared to other offerings. Regardless of how much Core Animation, multi-touch, OS X, slick interface goodies the iPhone has; on the paper it will still look outdated. Sadly enough.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macworld
“Europe is a very important market for us and we think that we have a nice opportunity with this product here, and obviously choosing GSM and a GSM roadmap gave us hope that we could get to Europe in a very short order, and that’s the goal we’ve expressed,” he added.
I have hope that GSM roadmap is code for we'll add HSDPA once someone smacks us in the head and we realize Europe != US/Canada.
Having quad-band GSM is all well and good for phone calls, but 3G is important outside the US.
3G (in the form of UMTS/HSDPA) covers Europe, South Korea, Japan[1] and a good chunk of the developed globe. North America is a bit of an exception since the GSM providers were slow off the mark to 3G and the CDMA guys weren't (CDMA 3G is EV-DO).
In Europe people don't go for WiFi as much as they go for HSDPA laptop cards because of the everywhere coverage angle. Heck dump WiFi and stick in HSDPA and the iPhone would good to go in the rest of the world (although ideally of course WiFi should be kept).
However 3G would add size/weight and reduce battery.
[1] Only Softbank (which explains old rumours about the iPhone and Softbank), DoCoMo uses an incompatible version of WCMDA called FOMA, and—like Verizon—Au/KDDI uses EV-DO.
No HSDPA support is simply lame. I won't be getting the phone before it's added.
Here in Ireland, we have almost 90% HSDPA coverage already. I've also found that recently, I am getting UMTS/HSDPA coverage almost anywhere I travel in Europe. "Until it's more widespread" is simply not true.
as it's spelled out in the article, it will be added! this is great news, probably the version sold in europe will already have it!!!
This is, I repeat, great news. Just waiting for it to be released here in Belgium, as it is illegal over here to sell locked phones (it is called coupled sales), Apple will have to sell them unlocked! we'll ship them unlocked to whomever wants them!
If Apple is still quibbling with Cingular over things like ringtones, even after announcing their exclusive deal, then I'd suspect Apple is on the losing end. Add to that how this is starting to sound like a closed platform for development, sounds like no support for VoIP, no Bluetooth sync ...
I'm of mixed minds about the iPhone. The lack of 3G is important around the world, and I'd like to think that Apple can allow external apps yet still have an "easy to use" phone. Imagine if Microsoft (or Apple) stopped 3rd party developers from writing apps for the respective OSes because they wanted to control the look and feel.
There are 2 derivative devices I wonder about.
1) iPhone without GSM, but with VoIP. No deals with the networks because it wouldn't use the networks. Designed to work in your home and/or office as a phone.
2) iPod Video - no phone, no bluetooth, no wifi, big hard disk.
I don't know if either of these derivatives would be popular - especially if they cost the same (or more) as the iPhone.
[*]Jobs said that there are only 2 widgets with the iPhone.
Oh, that truly is a bummer I was so much looking forward of manipulating the Hula Girl widget with my fingers
Quote:
Originally Posted by solipsism
Now, does that mean that Cisco's former lackadaisical use and enforcement means Apple has the right to use it? I don't know; It looks this one is going to be up to the courts.
Owmygod, why are we so keen on the hyped "iPhone" name? It is more than a phone. It is actually a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator. A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator! A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator!! (Jobs)
Got it?! So, bye bye iPhone and hey, Mr Cisco, you can have your crappy iPhone name
Owmygod, why are we so keen on the hyped "iPhone" name? It is more than a phone. It is actually a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator. A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator! A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator!! Got it?! So, bye bye iPhone and hey, Mr Cisco, you can have your crappy iPhone name
Okay, how are we going to call a device that is a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator?
Firstly, one should look at what they have in common. Aah, Multi Touch controll! It is truly amazing how touch is gonna bring us into the wonderful Appleworld.
So, the uninspiring iPhone name is not doing any justice to the magic multi touch idea, as introduced by Apple inc.!
Why not call it Genie! As referring to the fairy tale where one has to rub a lamp (thrice!) to make all his wishes come true
Owmygod, why are we so keen on the hyped "iPhone" name? It is more than a phone. It is actually a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator. A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator! A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator!!
Got it?! So, bye bye iPhone and hey, Mr Cisco, you can have your crappy iPhone name
We called AppleTV the iTV for many months knowing full well that name was already taken. I don't think we are hyped about it so much a s we are used to it. If Apple changes it to ApplePhone we'll start calling it that.
I don't care if they call it iRapedYourMotherLastNight, it's Apple and Cisco that are "hyped" about the iPhone moniker. But, like I said, the final decision is up to the courts.
Comments
Here's his original post (make sure to check out the comments section; to see Pogue's post, toggle up to top):
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/...ions/#comments
and here's the follow-up:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/...s-list-part-2/
It is quite obvious that a lot of this stuff is up in the air, and none of us has a clue (just as NONE, I repeat NONE, of us came close to predicting or visualizing or anticipating what this seemingly revolutionary product finally turned out to be).
I think that, right now, iPhone predictions make good copy, and people are being seduced into wild speculation and counter-speculation. I suspect that Apple is watching and listening to a lot of this back-and-forth, and there are a few surprises up its sleeve on or before June.
Tuesday's big announcement by Steve, ... big snip ... a great ride.
I think we all got the idea with the announce date of June.
It's a working prototype, a trial balloon.
But IMHO I don't think Apple has any more time to muck with the HW if it actually ships in June, need final drawings, award contracts, parts orders, time to build (whoever builds it that is), and inventory.
About the only thing Apple can do is muck with the SW, and they can do that up to and through the iPhone launch.
About the only thing Apple can do is muck with the SW, and they can do that up to and through the iPhone launch.
Another great thing about the iPhone--like with Macs--is that firmware upgrades, security holes and bugs fixes will easily be updated through the updater. This is something I've found tough to do with all other cell phones. Even smartphones, as you're proactively required to access their support website to see if new updates are available.
No HSDPA support is simply lame. I won't be getting the phone before it's added.
Here in Ireland, we have almost 90% HSDPA coverage already. I've also found that recently, I am getting UMTS/HSDPA coverage almost anywhere I travel in Europe. "Until it's more widespread" is simply not true.
For US, it's sad that Apple is going with Cingular for the "high-speed WAN" access. Verizon and Sprint both offer EV-DO which has fantastic coverage and true broadband speed. I consistently get over 1 Mbps down and 200 Kbps up.
No iPhone for me if I have to use EDGE or wait at least two years for Cingular to put up HSDPA.
For US, it's sad that Apple is going with Cingular for the "high-speed WAN" access. Verizon and Sprint both offer EV-DO which has fantastic coverage and true broadband speed. I consistently get over 1 Mbps down and 200 Kbps up.
No iPhone for me if I have to use EDGE or wait at least two years for Cingular to put up HSDPA.
But they use CDMA. At least with the Apple working to improve AT&T's network, HSDPA will be coming faster to the US than it otherwise would have without the announcement of the iPhone.
Look at the big picture, no one is making you buy an iPhone, but all of our cell phones and cell service will benefit from its release.
Example, Cingular has already altered it's infrastructure to include Randon Access Voicemail (RAV). How long before other carriers and manufactures include this as well?
Oh and here is good article from Roughly Drafted about other possible reasons Apple did not go with HSDPA: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM...0976FAB5E.html
Hopefully David is wrong about this, because if it is correct, I think Apple would sell a lot fewer phones. I mean, even th iPod can today sync with Outlook, via iTunes.
My guess is that this is a misunderstanding; Apple says it won't sync with Outlook directly, but it will sync with iTunes and get data from Outlook through it.
No Outlook-syncing on Windows-computers is a big dissapointment. Sure, I am a mac-user. but as many else I am forced to work with Windows everyday, and on my compay Exchange with Outlook is used for all planning and email. To not being able to sync with Outlook on my job is a huge dealbreaker for me, since it is necessary.
Hopefully David is wrong about this, because if it is correct, I think Apple would sell a lot fewer phones. I mean, even th iPod can today sync with Outlook, via iTunes.
My guess is that this is a misunderstanding; Apple says it won't sync with Outlook directly, but it will sync with iTunes and get data from Outlook through it.
Outlook is widely used in the US federal government as well as the Office suite, if syncing is a must for seamless ease of use, it could be a big deal breaker for government users.
2. I guess Apple will start with letting 3d party developers develop widgets to the phone. You could do some really nifty "apps" with Widgets. I guess they'll eventually introduce iPhone apps to be purchased from the iTunes store.
3. I hope they won't lock the phone to one provider here in Europe... like vodafone or something. Eeek. That would be a strategic mistake. The cellphone operator business in Europe is very competitive and competent. Probably only 2 features that require operator specific functions anyway.
1. Who knows, they might introduce 3G for the european launch. 3G is after all available in Europe. And after all... it's a year from now we're talking about.
2. I guess Apple will start with letting 3d party developers develop widgets to the phone. You could do some really nifty "apps" with Widgets. I guess they'll eventually introduce iPhone apps to be purchased from the iTunes store.
3. I hope they won't lock the phone to one provider here in Europe... like vodafone or something. Eeek. That would be a strategic mistake. The cellphone operator business in Europe is very competitive and competent. Probably only 2 features that require operator specific functions anyway.
Thankfully, Vodafone has ceased to exist here in Sweden. Hated Vodafone, they branded their telephones way to much, and made them less functional then intended...
But still, if Visual Voicemail will require locking to a certain provider, I would probably accept it, because that is a killer feature.
Anyways, the latest news is that the european version will indeed be GSM only, according to http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itune...m?newsid=16929.
Big mistake. At least if they want to sell many phones. I will probably still buy one, because I am an Apple Geek. But for most of the customers, no 3G will make the iPhone look obselete and utterly outdated compared to other offerings. Regardless of how much Core Animation, multi-touch, OS X, slick interface goodies the iPhone has; on the paper it will still look outdated. Sadly enough.
It is quite obvious that a lot of this stuff is up in the air, and none of us has a clue (just as NONE, I repeat NONE, of us came close to predicting or visualizing or anticipating what this seemingly revolutionary product finally turned out to be).
I think that, right now, iPhone predictions make good copy, and people are being seduced into wild speculation and counter-speculation. I suspect that Apple is watching and listening to a lot of this back-and-forth, and there are a few surprises up its sleeve on or before June.
I hope so because so far some of the answers Pogue has provided have sucked.
No Syncing via Bluetooth? - Every phone I've ever had has synced with AddressBook, iCal via iSync. It'll seriously suck if I have to use iTunes and carry a dock around. I know Apple seems to like shoving everything in to iTunes but please, no more. And please fix the iSync menubar tool!
No 3rd party apps, not even widgets - It's the perfect platform for writing widgets yourself.
No using iTunes tracks as ringtones - None of the phones I've got have this restriction. If iPhone has then WTF happened to Apple telling the carriers how a phone should work.
And that's leaving out the lack of 3G and less than average camera. I can only hope by the time it arrives here in Europe, all the above are sorted.
This is really strange. I am not sure about USA, but here in Europe Java-based games are big part of mobile business.
As far as I was excited about iPhone, how can anyone call mobile phone a "smart phone" when this lacks ability to run 3rd party apps? There are mobile phones (not smart phones) with some web browsers and definitely with email client for ages. Web browsing and mail reading does not qualify mobile phone to be smart phone in my eyes.
I'm not the first one to ask, but who is apple targeting with this phone?
Is it business person? Then where is support for office formats, at least some very basic "mobile office" suite (or at least reader) and productivity tools?
Or is it young person that likes to have iPod and phone in one package? Then, in Europe, Java games will be missed a lot...
It looks like Apple is still fighting with Cingular (er, AT&T) over this. They charge $2.49 for a ringtone and really don't to lose that supplemental income.
No matter what phone and cell carrier you utilize, you have to thank Apple for their efforts. We are witness to a paradigm shift where a manufacture is making a cell carrier change. It won't be long before cell carriers will have to stop charging outrageous rates for something as simple as a ringtone, and all manufactures will finally have a chance to end their stagnant, limited functionality phones. A new era of mobile telephony and computing is upon us.
Cingular will fold because right now every other carrier is willing to join forces with Apple. AT&T is the largest cell carrier with 58M (25%), but how much more will they gather from the exclusive Apple deal? I'm guessing a lot more than a few overprices ringtones will bring them.
Well, this is a grand assumption. If Apple is still quibbling with Cingular over things like ringtones, even after announcing their exclusive deal, then I'd suspect Apple is on the losing end. Add to that how this is starting to sound like a closed platform for development, sounds like no support for VoIP, no Bluetooth sync ...
Where is the "paradigm shift where a manufacture is making a cell carrier change"? Sounds like Apple is pandering to the carrier on this one. If there is some huge paradigm shift here, I'm still waiting to see it. This is starting to sound like yet another phone whose innovative features were stifled by the carriers.
Anyways, the latest news is that the european version will indeed be GSM only, according to http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itune...m?newsid=16929.
Big mistake. At least if they want to sell many phones. I will probably still buy one, because I am an Apple Geek. But for most of the customers, no 3G will make the iPhone look obselete and utterly outdated compared to other offerings. Regardless of how much Core Animation, multi-touch, OS X, slick interface goodies the iPhone has; on the paper it will still look outdated. Sadly enough.
“Europe is a very important market for us and we think that we have a nice opportunity with this product here, and obviously choosing GSM and a GSM roadmap gave us hope that we could get to Europe in a very short order, and that’s the goal we’ve expressed,” he added.
I have hope that GSM roadmap is code for we'll add HSDPA once someone smacks us in the head and we realize Europe != US/Canada.
Having quad-band GSM is all well and good for phone calls, but 3G is important outside the US.
3G (in the form of UMTS/HSDPA) covers Europe, South Korea, Japan[1] and a good chunk of the developed globe. North America is a bit of an exception since the GSM providers were slow off the mark to 3G and the CDMA guys weren't (CDMA 3G is EV-DO).
In Europe people don't go for WiFi as much as they go for HSDPA laptop cards because of the everywhere coverage angle. Heck dump WiFi and stick in HSDPA and the iPhone would good to go in the rest of the world (although ideally of course WiFi should be kept).
However 3G would add size/weight and reduce battery.
[1] Only Softbank (which explains old rumours about the iPhone and Softbank), DoCoMo uses an incompatible version of WCMDA called FOMA, and—like Verizon—Au/KDDI uses EV-DO.
No HSDPA support is simply lame. I won't be getting the phone before it's added.
Here in Ireland, we have almost 90% HSDPA coverage already. I've also found that recently, I am getting UMTS/HSDPA coverage almost anywhere I travel in Europe. "Until it's more widespread" is simply not true.
as it's spelled out in the article, it will be added! this is great news, probably the version sold in europe will already have it!!!
This is, I repeat, great news. Just waiting for it to be released here in Belgium, as it is illegal over here to sell locked phones (it is called coupled sales), Apple will have to sell them unlocked! we'll ship them unlocked to whomever wants them!
i(simplylove)phone
If Apple is still quibbling with Cingular over things like ringtones, even after announcing their exclusive deal, then I'd suspect Apple is on the losing end. Add to that how this is starting to sound like a closed platform for development, sounds like no support for VoIP, no Bluetooth sync ...
I'm of mixed minds about the iPhone. The lack of 3G is important around the world, and I'd like to think that Apple can allow external apps yet still have an "easy to use" phone. Imagine if Microsoft (or Apple) stopped 3rd party developers from writing apps for the respective OSes because they wanted to control the look and feel.
There are 2 derivative devices I wonder about.
1) iPhone without GSM, but with VoIP. No deals with the networks because it wouldn't use the networks. Designed to work in your home and/or office as a phone.
2) iPod Video - no phone, no bluetooth, no wifi, big hard disk.
I don't know if either of these derivatives would be popular - especially if they cost the same (or more) as the iPhone.
[*]Jobs said that there are only 2 widgets with the iPhone.
Oh, that truly is a bummer
Now, does that mean that Cisco's former lackadaisical use and enforcement means Apple has the right to use it? I don't know; It looks this one is going to be up to the courts.
Owmygod, why are we so keen on the hyped "iPhone" name? It is more than a phone. It is actually a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator. A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator! A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator!! (Jobs)
Got it?! So, bye bye iPhone and hey, Mr Cisco, you can have your crappy iPhone name
Owmygod, why are we so keen on the hyped "iPhone" name? It is more than a phone. It is actually a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator. A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator! A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator!! Got it?! So, bye bye iPhone and hey, Mr Cisco, you can have your crappy iPhone name
Okay, how are we going to call a device that is a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator?
Firstly, one should look at what they have in common. Aah, Multi Touch controll! It is truly amazing how touch is gonna bring us into the wonderful Appleworld.
So, the uninspiring iPhone name is not doing any justice to the magic multi touch idea, as introduced by Apple inc.!
Why not call it Genie! As referring to the fairy tale where one has to rub a lamp (thrice!) to make all his wishes come true
Owmygod, why are we so keen on the hyped "iPhone" name? It is more than a phone. It is actually a widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator. A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator! A widescreen iPod, a Phone and an Internet communicator!!
Got it?! So, bye bye iPhone and hey, Mr Cisco, you can have your crappy iPhone name
We called AppleTV the iTV for many months knowing full well that name was already taken. I don't think we are hyped about it so much a s we are used to it. If Apple changes it to ApplePhone we'll start calling it that.
I don't care if they call it iRapedYourMotherLastNight, it's Apple and Cisco that are "hyped" about the iPhone moniker. But, like I said, the final decision is up to the courts.
Oh, that truly is a bummer
Maybe they should keep it a closed platform. I can think of a lot of dirty things to do with a multi-touch screen. Interactive porn, anyone?