Hmmm.... DSL is only 512kbit/s down 128kbit/sec ... Asus wireless 802.11b throughput within 15-20feet for transfers between the Toshiba laptop and iBook is 2mbit/sec...
Sounds good, real good.
Hey, did they change the color for grumble? I don't remember it being pink.
Is the 802.11n standard widespread enough to warrant people even worrying about this? I mean, I thought N was a pretty new deal. I guess it helps you on your home Mac network and ?tv if that's the case because they're all on 802.11n ... I dunno ... just seems like much ado about something a lot of people won't notice or care about...
See... As part of MacWorld Rehab I'm past the 1st stage of Denial... Next is... umm... I forget what. But I'm on my way.... hahh aha hahah ah ha ha ha hmmmm.....
Is the 802.11n standard widespread enough to warrant people even worrying about this? I mean, I thought N was a pretty new deal. I guess it helps you on your home Mac network and ?tv if that's the case because they're all on 802.11n ... I dunno ... just seems like much ado about something a lot of people won't notice or care about...
As an end-to-end solution Apple Mac hardware and software has always been quite ideal, and which is the way *they* want you to play the game. The big change was iPod, which is predominantly a PC-formatted iPod running off iTunes Windows.
The bits we *do* have to dissect are the areas where you wanna play in a more mixed enviornment. The upgrade fee is not such a big deal in and of itself. Maybe we're more interested in how 802.11n works for MacIntel Core2Duos in 802.11pre-N non-AirportExtreme environments.
Is the 802.11n standard widespread enough to warrant people even worrying about this? I mean, I thought N was a pretty new deal. I guess it helps you on your home Mac network and ?tv if that's the case because they're all on 802.11n ... I dunno ... just seems like much ado about something a lot of people won't notice or care about...
Ah......It makes sense now. I think that's Step2 in MacworldRehab ...
Realising most of the cool stuff announced hasn't really hit the shelves.
I cannot really even believe Apple is advertising iPhone on the front web pages now.
It's so far away, luckily at this stage I couldn't give a damn personally about the iPhone,
only it's deep significance for Apple Inc.
<rambling>Ah... I checked the MacBook CoreDuo[Yonah] 2ghz White at the ol' Dept Store. Here's a fun trick to instantly load all your cores on your machine to 100%: Open 2-5 Terminal windows (2 windows is enough for CoreDuos). In each window type "yes>/dev/null" (without the quotes) and hit Enter. Now the MacBook [Yonah] 2ghz and even the MacBook Core2Duo[Merom] 2ghz both, within 1 minute, the fans start to go pretty loud. Even the latest MacBookCore2Duo. So my fan noise on heavy load (60% both cores, because of !@#!#@ no UniversalBinary of AdobeMacromedia stuff) is not too bad... But hopefully the Applecare place will do *something* about the thermal paste, heatsinks, or maybe replace my fan because it does sound either a bit off or stuffed with dust or something ... I dropped it in for service on Monday, we'll know by the end of the week. In the meantime it's back to productive talking nonsense on the ol' Toshiba CrapBook. Perfectionists + Apple = Disaster. Sometimes...</rambling>
"After much debate and a lot of contention among the overall IEEE membership, the all-important IEEE 802.11n working group has given its stamp of approval to the next draft version of the specification.
Temporarily dubbed draft version 1.10, it will go out as version 2.0 when it is released to the full IEEE 802.11n committee, about 400 strong, by the end of the month. "
Why THE FRACK is it taking soooo friggin' long?
"Assuming 3.0 is approved, it will go out for "sponsor" balloting by January 2008.
"The sponsor ballot process and completion takes time," said McFarland.
Final approval, called the publication date, is expected by October 2008. "
Newsflash: Could Linksys, et. al come up with a 802.11x 1000Mbps, 100x the range of 802.11b, technology by Christmas 2008??? Probably. It's like Kyoto. By the time anything is ratified by everyone, it won't matter, because different groups would have gone off and innovated on something else, like the Europeans are, while USA and Australia sit back in the stone age.
An October 2008 Official 802.11n standard would essentially be merely rubber-stamping what will essentially be a *legacy* standard, the de-facto for anything slower than whatever nice and fast Gigabit wireless 802.11x that will be in the wild by then.
Ah, maybe I'm not *that* mad. For most intents and purposes, 802.11b and 802.11g is a highly transformative technology, and despite bitching about routers and shite, like broadband, for home use it's virtually *impossible* to go back to a wired connection compared to 802.11b/g. It's good that they'll shore up things with 802.11n and that will run fine for up to say 2009 for most people. But I really do think that by Christmas 2008 we will see various sorts of Gigabit Wireless from the Networking companies, and out of skunkworks at Apple, Steve may push it out the door.
It's funny, this standards stuff. It's like one other extreme of the spectrum (heh, pun unintended) of the HD-DVD, BluRay thingy.
"After much debate and a lot of contention among the overall IEEE membership, the all-important IEEE 802.11n working group has given its stamp of approval to the next draft version of the specification.
Temporarily dubbed draft version 1.10, it will go out as version 2.0 when it is released to the full IEEE 802.11n committee, about 400 strong, by the end of the month. "
Why THE FRACK is it taking soooo friggin' long?
"Assuming 3.0 is approved, it will go out for "sponsor" balloting by January 2008.
"The sponsor ballot process and completion takes time," said McFarland.
Final approval, called the publication date, is expected by October 2008. "
I was on a standards committee back in the '70's, which was trying to standardize Quad. Anyone here remember that?
It was dissolved after two years. There were too many areas of contention.
Newsflash: Could Linksys, et. al come up with a 802.11x 1000Mbps, 100x the range of 802.11b, technology by Christmas 2008??? Probably. It's like Kyoto. By the time anything is ratified by everyone, it won't matter, because different groups would have gone off and innovated on something else, like the Europeans are, while USA and Australia sit back in the stone age.
An October 2008 Official 802.11n standard would essentially be merely rubber-stamping what will essentially be a *legacy* standard, the de-facto for anything slower than whatever nice and fast Gigabit wireless 802.11x that will be in the wild by then.
Ah, maybe I'm not *that* mad. For most intents and purposes, 802.11b and 802.11g is a highly transformative technology, and despite bitching about routers and shite, like broadband, for home use it's virtually *impossible* to go back to a wired connection compared to 802.11b/g. It's good that they'll shore up things with 802.11n and that will run fine for up to say 2009 for most people. But I really do think that by Christmas 2008 we will see various sorts of Gigabit Wireless from the Networking companies, and out of skunkworks at Apple, Steve may push it out the door.
It's funny, this standards stuff. It's like one other extreme of the spectrum (heh, pun unintended) of the HD-DVD, BluRay thingy.
There is work already being done on multi-gigabit wireless.
There is work already being done on multi-gigabit wireless.
Cool. I would love any links you dig up, chuck them onto this thread. I haven't come across much. Maybe 'coz I haven't been to Anandtech, Ars, or TomsHardware recently. BTW what is happening with WiMax???
Does anyone know if the existing Apple Airport Express units will work with these new Apple Airport Extremes? Specifically, will the Express units pass the 802.11n signal to your laptop from the Extreme base station? If not currently, does anyone know if Apple will be issuing a firmware update for the Express so that this will be possible?
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Hmmm.... DSL is only 512kbit/s down 128kbit/sec ... Asus wireless 802.11b throughput within 15-20feet for transfers between the Toshiba laptop and iBook is 2mbit/sec...
Sounds good, real good.
Hey, did they change the color for grumble? I don't remember it being pink.
Sounds good, real good.
Hey, did they change the color for grumble? I don't remember it being pink.
LOL Nah, it's still Orange. Either your screen or eyes or both is going
...I dunno... just seems like much ado about something a lot of people won't notice or care about...
Hell, that's what we do alllll day on AppleInsider!!! Welcome, friend.
Is the 802.11n standard widespread enough to warrant people even worrying about this? I mean, I thought N was a pretty new deal. I guess it helps you on your home Mac network and ?tv if that's the case because they're all on 802.11n ... I dunno ... just seems like much ado about something a lot of people won't notice or care about...
As an end-to-end solution Apple Mac hardware and software has always been quite ideal, and which is the way *they* want you to play the game. The big change was iPod, which is predominantly a PC-formatted iPod running off iTunes Windows.
The bits we *do* have to dissect are the areas where you wanna play in a more mixed enviornment. The upgrade fee is not such a big deal in and of itself. Maybe we're more interested in how 802.11n works for MacIntel Core2Duos in 802.11pre-N non-AirportExtreme environments.
Is the 802.11n standard widespread enough to warrant people even worrying about this? I mean, I thought N was a pretty new deal. I guess it helps you on your home Mac network and ?tv if that's the case because they're all on 802.11n ... I dunno ... just seems like much ado about something a lot of people won't notice or care about...
The draft standard was just approved.
LOL Nah, it's still Orange. Either your screen or eyes or both is going
Well, something is going.
I am surprised that new owners of 802.11n Airport Extreme have not reported on the "enabler software"
Because it won't be out until Feb?
Because it won't be out until Feb?
It's already February where he lives.
Because it won't be out until Feb?
Ah......It makes sense now. I think that's Step2 in MacworldRehab ...
Realising most of the cool stuff announced hasn't really hit the shelves.
I cannot really even believe Apple is advertising iPhone on the front web pages now.
It's so far away, luckily at this stage I couldn't give a damn personally about the iPhone,
only it's deep significance for Apple Inc.
<rambling>Ah... I checked the MacBook CoreDuo[Yonah] 2ghz White at the ol' Dept Store. Here's a fun trick to instantly load all your cores on your machine to 100%: Open 2-5 Terminal windows (2 windows is enough for CoreDuos). In each window type "yes>/dev/null" (without the quotes) and hit Enter. Now the MacBook [Yonah] 2ghz and even the MacBook Core2Duo[Merom] 2ghz both, within 1 minute, the fans start to go pretty loud. Even the latest MacBookCore2Duo. So my fan noise on heavy load (60% both cores, because of !@#!#@ no UniversalBinary of AdobeMacromedia stuff) is not too bad... But hopefully the Applecare place will do *something* about the thermal paste, heatsinks, or maybe replace my fan because it does sound either a bit off or stuffed with dust or something
It's already February where he lives.
It's already February where he lives.
Yeah, like, in my mind man.......... That's how I friggin' CALLED IT SWEET when I predicted 20 million iPods Oct-Dec '06. Yeahhhhhh. 8) 8)
The draft standard was just approved.
No offense, but la dee daa, Draft 2.0. Woooooooo....
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.p...40;fp;2;fpid;1
"After much debate and a lot of contention among the overall IEEE membership, the all-important IEEE 802.11n working group has given its stamp of approval to the next draft version of the specification.
Temporarily dubbed draft version 1.10, it will go out as version 2.0 when it is released to the full IEEE 802.11n committee, about 400 strong, by the end of the month. "
Why THE FRACK is it taking soooo friggin' long?
"Assuming 3.0 is approved, it will go out for "sponsor" balloting by January 2008.
"The sponsor ballot process and completion takes time," said McFarland.
Final approval, called the publication date, is expected by October 2008. "
An October 2008 Official 802.11n standard would essentially be merely rubber-stamping what will essentially be a *legacy* standard, the de-facto for anything slower than whatever nice and fast Gigabit wireless 802.11x that will be in the wild by then.
Ah, maybe I'm not *that* mad. For most intents and purposes, 802.11b and 802.11g is a highly transformative technology, and despite bitching about routers and shite, like broadband, for home use it's virtually *impossible* to go back to a wired connection compared to 802.11b/g. It's good that they'll shore up things with 802.11n and that will run fine for up to say 2009 for most people. But I really do think that by Christmas 2008 we will see various sorts of Gigabit Wireless from the Networking companies, and out of skunkworks at Apple, Steve may push it out the door.
It's funny, this standards stuff. It's like one other extreme of the spectrum (heh, pun unintended) of the HD-DVD, BluRay thingy.
No offense, but la dee daa, Draft 2.0. Woooooooo....
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.p...40;fp;2;fpid;1
"After much debate and a lot of contention among the overall IEEE membership, the all-important IEEE 802.11n working group has given its stamp of approval to the next draft version of the specification.
Temporarily dubbed draft version 1.10, it will go out as version 2.0 when it is released to the full IEEE 802.11n committee, about 400 strong, by the end of the month. "
Why THE FRACK is it taking soooo friggin' long?
"Assuming 3.0 is approved, it will go out for "sponsor" balloting by January 2008.
"The sponsor ballot process and completion takes time," said McFarland.
Final approval, called the publication date, is expected by October 2008. "
I was on a standards committee back in the '70's, which was trying to standardize Quad. Anyone here remember that?
It was dissolved after two years. There were too many areas of contention.
That was one of the reasons Quad died.
Newsflash: Could Linksys, et. al come up with a 802.11x 1000Mbps, 100x the range of 802.11b, technology by Christmas 2008??? Probably. It's like Kyoto. By the time anything is ratified by everyone, it won't matter, because different groups would have gone off and innovated on something else, like the Europeans are, while USA and Australia sit back in the stone age.
An October 2008 Official 802.11n standard would essentially be merely rubber-stamping what will essentially be a *legacy* standard, the de-facto for anything slower than whatever nice and fast Gigabit wireless 802.11x that will be in the wild by then.
Ah, maybe I'm not *that* mad. For most intents and purposes, 802.11b and 802.11g is a highly transformative technology, and despite bitching about routers and shite, like broadband, for home use it's virtually *impossible* to go back to a wired connection compared to 802.11b/g. It's good that they'll shore up things with 802.11n and that will run fine for up to say 2009 for most people. But I really do think that by Christmas 2008 we will see various sorts of Gigabit Wireless from the Networking companies, and out of skunkworks at Apple, Steve may push it out the door.
It's funny, this standards stuff. It's like one other extreme of the spectrum (heh, pun unintended) of the HD-DVD, BluRay thingy.
There is work already being done on multi-gigabit wireless.
There is work already being done on multi-gigabit wireless.
Cool.