I can't believe you guys wasted like 10 posts arguing about whether EDGE is 2.5g or 2.75g. ...I was just quoting Wiki as a brief reference to how Apple/Cingular is going to deliver "Internet-Communicator" type services leveraging the Cingular (and down the line quad-band other GSM for other countries) GSM network.
Yeah, EDGE is sucktastic by modern mobile phone "standards". In Australia Vodafone I get 3G via I think HSDPA or something and Telstra Australia has "nextG" 256kbps 3G (not sure what standard exactly). The 3G "EVDO" tested by a number of USA reviewers has been rather promising.
I think the key point to note is that GSM-EDGE is the first step for iPhone 2nd half 2007. Beyond that, globally, Apple will need to get some 3G ass in gear or they'll be seriously hampered in the non-US market. ...Quad-band GSM, and perhaps 3 different flavours of 3G for different market segments globally in 2008. Hence, as I said, a big task for Apple to embark upon.
Oh, and my name is more a parody of LOTR than a serious name. It refers to the practice in online games of 'tea-bagging' an opponent. One of my online handles is "Scroto T. Baggins". You'll get it if you're a gamer. .
Purile, but funny ...I just had to look up WTF teabagging means. I still don't know what the hell this "Web 2.0" is by the way. Can someone explain that to me? F**k I'm getting old man........ Damn kids and the Intarweb nowadays!!!
When I did use to play CountahSterike I'd just do a quick spray paint tag and be on my merry way. Usually I'm too paranoid to hang around much once I've made a kill. I quickly run or crouch or flip 180deg pretty damn fast... Fire off some rounds randomly as I scamper off.
Let's randomly set $550 USD as the average selling price. A 20% margin would mean that 20% of that is profit (am I right here?) which is $110 USD PER UNIT.
Steve's target for 2007 (really just 2nd half of 2007) is 10 million units. 10,000,000 x 110 = 1100 million = 1.1 billion profit. Quarterly profit at the moment is what, 200-500 million USD...
Yup I am wrong about the 2nd half of 2007. I was also wrong about the 1.1 billion profit bit :
APPLE JUST POSTED 1 BILLION DOLLARS IN PROFIT FOR Oct-Dec 2006*. FRACK ME.
We're looking at 1-2 Billion Dollars in profit per quarter going into 2nd half of 2007 and 2008.
*Yes I know Jan-June 2007 may be less that 1 billion profit because of da post-Christmas "cooldown"...
"Teabagging: A nasty practice where a player will crouch over a just-killed player?s body, appearing to dangle his private regions in the face of the dead player. A rather tasteless form of victory celebration."
"Teabagging: A nasty practice where a player will crouch over a just-killed player’s body, appearing to dangle his private regions in the face of the dead player. A rather tasteless form of victory celebration."
That plays to your nature. Figured you would know!
By the way, don't teabag your box! It's a highly coveted collectors item. There aren't many of them around.
ROFLMAO. I lost interest in the whole 2.5 vs 2.75G debate once I started "learning" about this "TeaBagging" thing... in a gaming and non-gaming context
ROFLMAO. I lost interest in the whole 2.5 vs 2.75G debate once I started "learning" about this "TeaBagging" thing... in a gaming and non-gaming context
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1G: analogue phones.
2G: digital phones, circuit switched data connections.
2.5G: packet switched data; GPRS and EDGE.
3G: packet switched data at a fast enough speed to hold a video call.
There's no 2.75G... the connection is either fast enough for video calling/streaming, or it isn't. There's no grey area.
Regarding MMS: it does not appear that Apple supports it at all. Which is a damn shame -- I send photos via MMS a lot more than I send them via email!
Amorya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.75G
EDGE is 2.75G. GPRS is 2.5G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.75G
Nope. EDGE is theoretically 2.75G (if by that we mean 'near broadband' speed), but real-world performance is 2.5G, aka not much faster than dial-up.
Wikipedia is great, but some things posted there are as much opinion as fact.
They got this part right though:
"The term 2.75G has not been officially defined anywhere, but as of 2004 is beginning to be used quite often in media reports."
Sounds like someone's bright marketing idea, repeated by reporters eh? 8)
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Yeah, EDGE is sucktastic by modern mobile phone "standards". In Australia Vodafone I get 3G via I think HSDPA or something and Telstra Australia has "nextG" 256kbps 3G (not sure what standard exactly). The 3G "EVDO" tested by a number of USA reviewers has been rather promising.
I think the key point to note is that GSM-EDGE is the first step for iPhone 2nd half 2007. Beyond that, globally, Apple will need to get some 3G ass in gear or they'll be seriously hampered in the non-US market.
"Steve's target for 2007 (really just 2nd half of 2007) is 10 million units."
10 million units is his target for calendar year 2008. He didn't give a target for 2007.
Thanks, I just checked the SteveNote ( I hadn't finished watching it). Some journalists and analysts out there are thinking 10 million units in 2007.
10 million units in 2008. Easy peasy for Apple. GOOooooooo Apple !!!!!
Also, I've been quoting Europe as 2008 but it is US June 2007 onwards, Europe Oct-Dec (Christmas frenzy) quarter 2007, and Asia 2008.
I'd say Apple clears 15 million units by end of 2007 easy. 8)
Oh, and my name is more a parody of LOTR than a serious name. It refers to the practice in online games of 'tea-bagging' an opponent. One of my online handles is "Scroto T. Baggins". You'll get it if you're a gamer.
Purile, but funny
When I did use to play CountahSterike I'd just do a quick spray paint tag and be on my merry way. Usually I'm too paranoid to hang around much once I've made a kill. I quickly run or crouch or flip 180deg pretty damn fast... Fire off some rounds randomly as I scamper off.
Let's randomly set $550 USD as the average selling price. A 20% margin would mean that 20% of that is profit (am I right here?) which is $110 USD PER UNIT.
Steve's target for 2007 (really just 2nd half of 2007) is 10 million units. 10,000,000 x 110 = 1100 million = 1.1 billion profit. Quarterly profit at the moment is what, 200-500 million USD...
Yup I am wrong about the 2nd half of 2007. I was also wrong about the 1.1 billion profit bit :
APPLE JUST POSTED 1 BILLION DOLLARS IN PROFIT FOR Oct-Dec 2006*. FRACK ME.
We're looking at 1-2 Billion Dollars in profit per quarter going into 2nd half of 2007 and 2008.
*Yes I know Jan-June 2007 may be less that 1 billion profit because of da post-Christmas "cooldown"...
Melgross, you've never teabagged someone?
As I've said I'm not a gamer anymore. If I knew what it meant, I could answer your question.
As I've said I'm not a gamer anymore. If I knew what it meant, I could answer your question.
http://www.theaveragegamer.com/terminology/#t
"Teabagging: A nasty practice where a player will crouch over a just-killed player?s body, appearing to dangle his private regions in the face of the dead player. A rather tasteless form of victory celebration."
http://www.theaveragegamer.com/terminology/#t
"Teabagging: A nasty practice where a player will crouch over a just-killed player’s body, appearing to dangle his private regions in the face of the dead player. A rather tasteless form of victory celebration."
That plays to your nature. Figured you would know!
By the way, don't teabag your box! It's a highly coveted collectors item. There aren't many of them around.
You don't have to be a gamer to teabag...
I can't believe you guys wasted like 10 posts arguing about whether EDGE is 2.5g or 2.75g.
You mean you DON'T understand how something like that could happen? On the INTERNET?
Sunil, your geek card is hereby suspended. Exit the AI forums immediately, and think about what you've done.
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ROFLMAO. I lost interest in the whole 2.5 vs 2.75G debate once I started "learning" about this "TeaBagging" thing... in a gaming and non-gaming context
That's right, keep what's important up front.