ThinkSecret Shows Off More Leopard 9A343 Screenshots

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feynmanfeynman
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in macOS edited January 2014
I would say that Apple is nearly done. It looks pretty polished to me. I think the only reason we have not seen a new build is because of the "Top Secret" features. If we are really slated for a March release, I dunno when Steve will show these features off as the first FC (Final Candidate) has to be out in like a week.



Linkage: http://thinksecret.com/news/0702leop...43gallery.html
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    ksecksec Posts: 1,569member
    The shortcut key for arranging items looks .... funny to me.
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  • Reply 2 of 27
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
    Why??
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  • Reply 3 of 27
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,585moderator
    "Thanks to Leopard's many under-the-hood improvements, users can expect to see signficant gains in performance and responsiveness under Mac OS X 10.5, especially on recent Macs. Window resizing relative to different System Preference Panes, for example, is now instantaneous and completely smooth, without that half-second delay found in previous Mac OS X releases."



    That's the kind of things I want to hear.



    The X11 icon looks ugly as hell though. No brushed metal in sight though.
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  • Reply 4 of 27
    dr_lhadr_lha Posts: 236member
    That X11 icon is not a "new" one. Its been knocking around for many years. A while back I built X11 for my Mac from source and that's the icon it gave it by default. I highly doubt that Apple will start using that icon because it looks horrible. My guess is that icon is only present because of the current beta state of X11 support in Leopard.
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  • Reply 5 of 27
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post


    That X11 icon is not a "new" one.



    Hmm, never seen it before. I hope Apple will let it go.
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  • Reply 6 of 27
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ksec View Post


    The shortcut key for arranging items looks .... funny to me.



    Funny? I would say a nice touch resurrected from the Mac OS 9 days.
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  • Reply 7 of 27
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    Pretty polished??



    (chuckle)



    Wait 'til you see the real UI.



    And there is not going to be a March release.
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  • Reply 8 of 27
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post


    Pretty polished??



    (chuckle)



    Wait 'til you see the real UI.



    And there is not going to be a March release.



    You know all this? NDA?
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  • Reply 9 of 27
    feynmanfeynman Posts: 1,087member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post


    Pretty polished??



    (chuckle)



    Wait 'til you see the real UI.



    And there is not going to be a March release.



    Yeah and how exactly do you know this?
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  • Reply 10 of 27
    sthiedesthiede Posts: 307member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post


    Pretty polished??



    (chuckle)



    Wait 'til you see the real UI.



    And there is not going to be a March release.



    thou has much faith. as do i,
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  • Reply 11 of 27
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sthiede View Post


    thou has much faith. as do i,



    Ah, yes, faith, the magic word. We often need it, but in this case it is not going to force Apple to deliver the goods if Apple fails or does not plan to meet people's expectations. Yet, it would be interesting to see if Hobbes is just hoping or rather knowing more than the average mortal.
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  • Reply 12 of 27
    fishafisha Posts: 126member
    (I'm not a Mac user, so go easy here )



    Is the semi-transparancy in picture 22 to 27 normal?
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  • Reply 13 of 27
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fisha View Post


    (I'm not a Mac user, so go easy here )



    Is the semi-transparancy in picture 22 to 27 normal?



    Yes. That's a sheet; its background opacity is slightly below 100% (similar for menus).
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  • Reply 14 of 27
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PB View Post


    You know all this? NDA?



    I've seen enough hints (a few NDA'd, most not) to get the picture, loud and clear. It doesn't take a whole lot of reading between the lines.



    "There's some stuff we can't show you yet." 6 years since Aqua (and the way Aqua was a secret 2-year project, and intro'd by being dropped into DR3, unseen by developers). The long-time brewing and finally, release, of Vista's highly Aqua-influenced Aero + Apple's need, as the alternative OS, to be strikingly different. Stunning CoreAnimation demos. Unfinished, placeholder icons in Leopard dev seeds. Dynamic-lighting UI patents from Nov '02. WWDC '06 quiet instructions to devs w/r/t user interface elements. CoreUI. Etc.
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  • Reply 15 of 27
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
    Quote:
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    Dynamic-lighting UI patents from Nov '02.



    Could you refresh my memory please?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post


    CoreUI.



    What's that?
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  • Reply 16 of 27
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PB View Post


    Could you refresh my memory please?



    Sure.



    Quote:

    What's that?



    A new private framework that currently points to a bundle named Aqua. Application resources seem to have been redirected to use CoreUI.
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  • Reply 17 of 27
    feynmanfeynman Posts: 1,087member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post


    Sure.







    A new private framework that currently points to a bundle named Aqua. Application resources seem to have been redirected to use CoreUI.



    Maybe I need to see this action but it does not scream to me.
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  • Reply 18 of 27
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    There's no single smoking gun. Just Jobs coming out at WWDC '06, saying "there's some stuff we can't show you yet" and a big "Top Secret" slide, along with a rather anemic set of announced features (save possibly Time Machine) and many, many clues, some visible and some NDA'd.



    Why people are so skeptical of Apple refreshing the UI for their flagship software product just because of complete (typically secretive) silence from Apple, right at the point in which Microsoft has finally released a graphically savvy, composited version of Windows with plenty of visual bling... is beyond me.



    Do you really think Jobs is going to be happy competing with Vista with a UI that was basically designed 6 years ago?



    And is next month (the 6th year anniversary of OS X, incidentally) a good time to reveal a new UI.... or two years later in 10.6? By which time PCs running Vista will far outnumber XP?



    But hey, believe what you want to believe.
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  • Reply 19 of 27
    feynmanfeynman Posts: 1,087member
    It's not hard to believe at all, in fact I agree that they will refresh the UI.



    I guess at this point I am just very anxious more than anything. I would just hope that if Apple is really trying to push Leopard as the Vista killer than they have a media event specifically for Leopard so the press has a dedicated event just to see the beast without any other distractions (iLife, iWork, etc).
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  • Reply 20 of 27
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    I wouldn't be too anxious. Apple's silence speaks volumes.



    Leopard will have its spot in the sun for sure, but iLife is a very important suite for Apple as well. In a way, they're natural companions in making a case for what's distinctive and unique about Macs. Also, if iLife/iWork have some CoreAnimation goodies, it would certainly make sense to show them off at the same event.
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