I don't foresee Apple making a TV with the box built in. What happens if the box breaks? What happens if the TV breaks? That would be way to expensive to have as one box.
Well I do, so prepare to be surprised.
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Originally Posted by icfireball
Also, Apple TV is suppose to be usable by anyone -- and most people wouldn't buy an Apple Television, myself included.
That's why they continue to sell the Apple TV box. If you have a new TV, you get the external box; if you want a new TV, you get the Apple Tele with the internal box. Also as I said Apple would probably need to license the Apple TV technology to other brands like Sony, Panny, and Pioneer etc. So people who want to go with the iTunes service but are brand loyal can stay brand loyal and still get an iTunes Ready TV, or get a non-iTunes Ready TV and buy the external box. That would pretty much cover every taste and preference.
The DVR would be nice, but Elgato is a good add on and they seem to have a good integration to the iTunes. So, I would not mind to purchase Elgato.
I think Elgato products are nice, and if Apple didn't have a very specific *living room media player* coming out, then a Mac Mini + Elgato would be the way to go. But -- since Apple IS making a device specifically for my TV, it is a natural fit that anyone would want on their TV [anyone meaning people that watch more than 1-2 shows max and/or want at least some sort of live TV like news, sports...].
The main problem I have with having my Mac + Elgato + iTV is that it seems rather pointless. For one, as I said before I don't want to leave my G5 on all the time -- it sucks up way too much electricity. Having it shut down using energy saver would be ok I guess except I never know what random show I want to record until the day of when I look. That would mean I'd have to constantly be changing the energy saver shutdown time every day to make sure it's on to get my program(s). Seems like a big hassle and kind of defeats the purpose of being 'easy'. Also if I'm downstairs watching TV I don't want to think about having to go back up to restart my Mac, only to go back down to watch a show that's on my Mac [upstairs]...again, not worth the trouble day in and day out.
Another big issue is the fact that it relies on my Mac for everything. It's not a self sustaining device, it's way too tied to my Mac. With Tivo I have it set to record shows all throughout the day/night and watch/sort at my leisure. Since I work on my Mac all day long, that would mean that Elgato would always be on recording stuff and tying up considerable CPU resources. I'm not sure how efficient Elgato is at recording, but recording video/audio is no small task for a computer, and would definitely slow down hard drive access times with it constantly recording a stream of AV, and limit RAM for my normal uses. So it's really not acceptable, at least in my situation. Of course I could buy a new computer, probably a Mini, and an Elgato, and an iTV......but then I've really gained absolutely nothing over a Tivo at 2x+ the cost.
That's what the iTV should be for I think. It should do the heavy lifting and recording, and also offer the Mac tie-ins as extras. All nicely packaged up with the Apple touch.
All they have to do is offer the pilot episode for free to get you "hooked" as well as rely on how people currently "discover" new series such as word of mouth.
Am I the only person that watches more than 2 TV shows? I would be lost without the ability to flip through many channels. Picking 1 show is nice if you know exactly what that *1* show is. But I normally flip through many channels to find all kinds of random stuff I'd never have seen or heard of otherwise. And before you say it....the iTMS "guide" isn't the same. All that is, is the most popular major shows. If I were to "flip" through that [I need more than a 30 second preview], I'd run through a hundred dollars per night. At least for me, buying per-episode is totally ridiculous.
you don't understand. AppleTV is here to pave the road for future products. But the future will be not one product doing everything (MS style) but a set of products doing a couple of things very good. If you wan't everything you describe buy a Mini, a second external hard drive or something like this.
Apple TV is a way to capitalize on the iTunes-iPod success and putting your content on the most widespread electronics device, the TV-set. it's that easy, it really is.
That's why I have not got too excite about AppleTV solution as well as Elgato.
I love my dishnetwork dvr. The fact is a separate device and is not attach to my computer that I primarily use for work is a great thing.
I would love Apple to have the AppleTV as stand alone product that does everything you described, but it seems that's not the direction Apple is taking. The Mac at this time will always be the hub.
So, Meanwhile, I'll keep my DVR and satellite subscription.
I think AppleTV is a great idea but is far ahead of it's time. People are too attach to live tv and and the idea of a buying content at iTunes for a la carte shows and movies is so new, so it will take time for people to switch to that, plus on Apple's side it will take long time to provide all the content that people crave and also at better resolutions.
So, I would say most people will keep the current model for many years to come and just use AppleTV as an additional resource for their programming needs.
I think Elgato products are nice, and if Apple didn't have a very specific *living room media player* coming out, then a Mac Mini + Elgato would be the way to go. But -- since Apple IS making a device specifically for my TV, it is a natural fit that anyone would want on their TV [anyone meaning people that watch more than 1-2 shows max and/or want at least some sort of live TV like news, sports...].
The main problem I have with having my Mac + Elgato + iTV is that it seems rather pointless. For one, as I said before I don't want to leave my G5 on all the time -- it sucks up way too much electricity. Having it shut down using energy saver would be ok I guess except I never know what random show I want to record until the day of when I look. That would mean I'd have to constantly be changing the energy saver shutdown time every day to make sure it's on to get my program(s). Seems like a big hassle and kind of defeats the purpose of being 'easy'. Also if I'm downstairs watching TV I don't want to think about having to go back up to restart my Mac, only to go back down to watch a show that's on my Mac [upstairs]...again, not worth the trouble day in and day out.
Another big issue is the fact that it relies on my Mac for everything. It's not a self sustaining device, it's way too tied to my Mac. With Tivo I have it set to record shows all throughout the day/night and watch/sort at my leisure. Since I work on my Mac all day long, that would mean that Elgato would always be on recording stuff and tying up considerable CPU resources. I'm not sure how efficient Elgato is at recording, but recording video/audio is no small task for a computer, and would definitely slow down hard drive access times with it constantly recording a stream of AV, and limit RAM for my normal uses. So it's really not acceptable, at least in my situation. Of course I could buy a new computer, probably a Mini, and an Elgato, and an iTV......but then I've really gained absolutely nothing over a Tivo at 2x+ the cost.
That's what the iTV should be for I think. It should do the heavy lifting and recording, and also offer the Mac tie-ins as extras. All nicely packaged up with the Apple touch.
The Mac mini + Elgato + AppleTV is a waste. You could just use the Mac mini + Elgato where you'd put an AppleTV. I've gotten rid of my Mac mini in lieu of the AppleTV, which will save me some money as I use my desktop Mac s a data server. I only turn it off when updates require it.
The only current drawback is my ability to play DVDs and other formats that QT can handle via FrontRow. As I've said before, I hope to gain this ability with AppleTV shortly after its release.
That's why they continue to sell the Apple TV box. If you have a new TV, you get the external box; if you want a new TV, you get the Apple Tele with the internal box. Also as I said Apple would probably need to license the Apple TV technology to other brands like Sony, Panny, and Pioneer etc. So people who want to go with the iTunes service but are brand loyal can stay brand loyal and still get an iTunes Ready TV, or get a non-iTunes Ready TV and buy the external box. That would pretty much cover every taste and preference.
That product offering is too complicated for Apple's style.
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Originally Posted by gregmightdothat
And we ALL know what great foresight you have. Whatever happened to leopardvision.com?*
If people thought DVR was better from a pc, then MS would have already owned the living room by now. DVR is best with a DVR device - 'a la Miglia.
iTV is to get the computer on the TV not to insert itself between recording and the TV. As the guy above said, people shouldn't have to keep a dual core MacBookPro on just in case you want to relisten to American Idols.
iTV will grow slowly, at the exact speed of video content on iTunes.
Buy an iTV and buy a Miglia and that is all you need. If one breaks, you can just replace it. Why put it all in one box that would put too much money in one place. As long as both can run from one remote, I'll take two boxes.
Buy an iTV and buy a Miglia and that is all you need. If one breaks, you can just replace it. Why put it all in one box that would put too much money in one place. As long as both can run from one remote, I'll take two boxes.
The way I see it is that the iTV offering is the part that doesn't offer anything. I mean really, there's nothing to it but a few cute graphics, it basically does nothing.
Stringing a long svideo cable and IR extender up 3 flights of stairs from my Mac to my TV would be about as useful -- heck at least then I'd get something worthwhile on the screen. 2 boxes, 2 remotes, why? By overly "simplifying" things, Apple has overly complicated things by adding an extremely limited box that takes up space [which is usually tight enough in a normal living room setup], and adding a dumb little remote. Unless I want to go buy yet another universal remote, I'm stuck then with Apple's mini-useless remote.
There are lots of products that can be justified with enough features or standalone functionality to hold their own as a separate device. I don't feel the iTV is one of them by any means. While the very small feature-set might be interesting to a select few, I'm overly sure that this thing will not be well received after its initial offering unless they add a DVR, lower the price drastically, or add a significant subscription based AppleCable service. Yes I know, who am I, I know nothing. Let's just wait and see how the numbers play out post-2 months release.
720P TV Show content is coming soon; I guarantee it, but I wouldn't hold your breath for 1080P movie content.
I agree. I hope it will be released at or soon after AppleTV is available.
I also expect that these will include subtitles for the hearing impaired that can be turned on/off. I gather this as Jobs mention that Quicktime will be getting subtitle abilities with Leopard. And, it seems logical that Apple would add support for the hearing impaired.
...to license the Apple TV technology to other brands like Sony, Panny, and Pioneer etc. So people who want to go with the iTunes service but are brand loyal can stay brand loyal and still get an iTunes Ready TV, or get a non-iTunes Ready TV and buy the external box. That would pretty much cover every taste and preference.
I will make a prediction that I think everyone would agree with, Apple will never license Apple TV technology to another manufacturer. They may at some point in time license Fair Play if they think they need to, but not the rest of it.
I don't foresee Apple making a TV with the box built in. What happens if the box breaks? What happens if the TV breaks? That would be way to expensive to have as one box.
Firstly, the box containing the ATv could be removable, or optional. No big deal there. It doesn't preclude Apple from continuing the current version either.
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Also, Apple TV is suppose to be usable by anyone -- and most people wouldn't buy an Apple Television, myself included.
Sure, most people won't buy a Mac either, should Apple cease making them?
If Apple could sell a million Tv's a year, not an impossible task, as many people WOULD buy them, and a lot of Tv's are sold around the world each year, that would be well over a billion dollars a year for them, likely over two billion. Not a small addition.
Am I the only person that watches more than 2 TV shows? I would be lost without the ability to flip through many channels. Picking 1 show is nice if you know exactly what that *1* show is. But I normally flip through many channels to find all kinds of random stuff I'd never have seen or heard of otherwise. And before you say it....the iTMS "guide" isn't the same. All that is, is the most popular major shows. If I were to "flip" through that [I need more than a 30 second preview], I'd run through a hundred dollars per night. At least for me, buying per-episode is totally ridiculous.
I've gone through this same argument with people recently.
The metrics work if only a few shows are watched, but without Apple also offering subscriptions, there would be no way for the hundreds of inveterate channel flippers to be happy.
I'm not convinced that the Apple TV can't do 5.1 sound. While there may not (yet) be content available from the iTMS encoded with digital sound, it doesn't appear to be technically impossible.
5.1 is digitally encoded, and actually can require less work from the playback device than analog audio, since the digital bit stream is output raw and de-encoded by your SS Receiver. I can see no reason that films from Apple couldn't be encoded with digital and output as such over the Fiber connection.
I agree totally.
Anyone have any reputable quotes/links that say Apple TV won't do 5.1??
4. Bought a HDMI switcher from Monoprice.com and a Harmony remote. Yeah, both of them added $200 to the overall cost of the system, but well worth it. Remote is configurable through USB on my Macbook Pro, 1 time set up, 1 button for Watch DVD, 1 button for Watch TV, etc. IT figures out what to do, which item(s) to turn on or off and in what order, which switch to switch. Flawless. Wife is impressed and LOVES it. Heck, I'm impressed at how easy it is. Couldn't live with a any other remote.
Anyone that buys an HDTV and spends a few bucks should probably invest in the right goodies to make it look and sound good, and make it easy to control with a decent remote that is easily configured. Otherwise, don't bother.
Thanks so much. I have a Harmony Remote (H659) but wasn't aware that they had released a software update that now makes them compatible with intel Macs, until I read your post then visited Logitech's site to d/load the update. Thanks. Previously, I had to run the software and program the Mac using my wife's 12" Powerbook.
I also didn't know there was such a device as the HDMI switcher, b/c that's exactly what I need. I paid a lot of money for a custom home theater install but, alas, my beautiful Samsung 50" plasma only has 1 HDMI port, which my HD Tivo/DirecTv is using. With the switcher, however, I can now also connect the AppleTv via HDMi as well.
And we ALL know what great foresight you have. Whatever happened to leopardvision.com?*
Oh, right.
Yeah, I meant to upload something like this but I've not go round to it because I've been a bit busy replying to comments like this and making cups of tea
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I don't foresee Apple making a TV with the box built in. What happens if the box breaks? What happens if the TV breaks? That would be way to expensive to have as one box.
Well I do, so prepare to be surprised.
Also, Apple TV is suppose to be usable by anyone -- and most people wouldn't buy an Apple Television, myself included.
That's why they continue to sell the Apple TV box. If you have a new TV, you get the external box; if you want a new TV, you get the Apple Tele with the internal box. Also as I said Apple would probably need to license the Apple TV technology to other brands like Sony, Panny, and Pioneer etc. So people who want to go with the iTunes service but are brand loyal can stay brand loyal and still get an iTunes Ready TV, or get a non-iTunes Ready TV and buy the external box. That would pretty much cover every taste and preference.
The DVR would be nice, but Elgato is a good add on and they seem to have a good integration to the iTunes. So, I would not mind to purchase Elgato.
I think Elgato products are nice, and if Apple didn't have a very specific *living room media player* coming out, then a Mac Mini + Elgato would be the way to go. But -- since Apple IS making a device specifically for my TV, it is a natural fit that anyone would want on their TV [anyone meaning people that watch more than 1-2 shows max and/or want at least some sort of live TV like news, sports...].
The main problem I have with having my Mac + Elgato + iTV is that it seems rather pointless. For one, as I said before I don't want to leave my G5 on all the time -- it sucks up way too much electricity. Having it shut down using energy saver would be ok I guess except I never know what random show I want to record until the day of when I look. That would mean I'd have to constantly be changing the energy saver shutdown time every day to make sure it's on to get my program(s). Seems like a big hassle and kind of defeats the purpose of being 'easy'. Also if I'm downstairs watching TV I don't want to think about having to go back up to restart my Mac, only to go back down to watch a show that's on my Mac [upstairs]...again, not worth the trouble day in and day out.
Another big issue is the fact that it relies on my Mac for everything. It's not a self sustaining device, it's way too tied to my Mac. With Tivo I have it set to record shows all throughout the day/night and watch/sort at my leisure. Since I work on my Mac all day long, that would mean that Elgato would always be on recording stuff and tying up considerable CPU resources. I'm not sure how efficient Elgato is at recording, but recording video/audio is no small task for a computer, and would definitely slow down hard drive access times with it constantly recording a stream of AV, and limit RAM for my normal uses. So it's really not acceptable, at least in my situation. Of course I could buy a new computer, probably a Mini, and an Elgato, and an iTV......but then I've really gained absolutely nothing over a Tivo at 2x+ the cost.
That's what the iTV should be for I think. It should do the heavy lifting and recording, and also offer the Mac tie-ins as extras. All nicely packaged up with the Apple touch.
All they have to do is offer the pilot episode for free to get you "hooked" as well as rely on how people currently "discover" new series such as word of mouth.
Am I the only person that watches more than 2 TV shows? I would be lost without the ability to flip through many channels. Picking 1 show is nice if you know exactly what that *1* show is. But I normally flip through many channels to find all kinds of random stuff I'd never have seen or heard of otherwise. And before you say it....the iTMS "guide" isn't the same. All that is, is the most popular major shows. If I were to "flip" through that [I need more than a 30 second preview], I'd run through a hundred dollars per night. At least for me, buying per-episode is totally ridiculous.
you don't understand. AppleTV is here to pave the road for future products. But the future will be not one product doing everything (MS style) but a set of products doing a couple of things very good. If you wan't everything you describe buy a Mini, a second external hard drive or something like this.
Apple TV is a way to capitalize on the iTunes-iPod success and putting your content on the most widespread electronics device, the TV-set. it's that easy, it really is.
a-Maze
I agree.
That's why I have not got too excite about AppleTV solution as well as Elgato.
I love my dishnetwork dvr. The fact is a separate device and is not attach to my computer that I primarily use for work is a great thing.
I would love Apple to have the AppleTV as stand alone product that does everything you described, but it seems that's not the direction Apple is taking. The Mac at this time will always be the hub.
So, Meanwhile, I'll keep my DVR and satellite subscription.
I think AppleTV is a great idea but is far ahead of it's time. People are too attach to live tv and and the idea of a buying content at iTunes for a la carte shows and movies is so new, so it will take time for people to switch to that, plus on Apple's side it will take long time to provide all the content that people crave and also at better resolutions.
So, I would say most people will keep the current model for many years to come and just use AppleTV as an additional resource for their programming needs.
Well I do, so prepare to be surprised.
And we ALL know what great foresight you have. Whatever happened to leopardvision.com?*
Oh, right.
I think Elgato products are nice, and if Apple didn't have a very specific *living room media player* coming out, then a Mac Mini + Elgato would be the way to go. But -- since Apple IS making a device specifically for my TV, it is a natural fit that anyone would want on their TV [anyone meaning people that watch more than 1-2 shows max and/or want at least some sort of live TV like news, sports...].
The main problem I have with having my Mac + Elgato + iTV is that it seems rather pointless. For one, as I said before I don't want to leave my G5 on all the time -- it sucks up way too much electricity. Having it shut down using energy saver would be ok I guess except I never know what random show I want to record until the day of when I look. That would mean I'd have to constantly be changing the energy saver shutdown time every day to make sure it's on to get my program(s). Seems like a big hassle and kind of defeats the purpose of being 'easy'. Also if I'm downstairs watching TV I don't want to think about having to go back up to restart my Mac, only to go back down to watch a show that's on my Mac [upstairs]...again, not worth the trouble day in and day out.
Another big issue is the fact that it relies on my Mac for everything. It's not a self sustaining device, it's way too tied to my Mac. With Tivo I have it set to record shows all throughout the day/night and watch/sort at my leisure. Since I work on my Mac all day long, that would mean that Elgato would always be on recording stuff and tying up considerable CPU resources. I'm not sure how efficient Elgato is at recording, but recording video/audio is no small task for a computer, and would definitely slow down hard drive access times with it constantly recording a stream of AV, and limit RAM for my normal uses. So it's really not acceptable, at least in my situation. Of course I could buy a new computer, probably a Mini, and an Elgato, and an iTV......but then I've really gained absolutely nothing over a Tivo at 2x+ the cost.
That's what the iTV should be for I think. It should do the heavy lifting and recording, and also offer the Mac tie-ins as extras. All nicely packaged up with the Apple touch.
The Mac mini + Elgato + AppleTV is a waste. You could just use the Mac mini + Elgato where you'd put an AppleTV. I've gotten rid of my Mac mini in lieu of the AppleTV, which will save me some money as I use my desktop Mac s a data server. I only turn it off when updates require it.
The only current drawback is my ability to play DVDs and other formats that QT can handle via FrontRow. As I've said before, I hope to gain this ability with AppleTV shortly after its release.
Well I do, so prepare to be surprised.
That's why they continue to sell the Apple TV box. If you have a new TV, you get the external box; if you want a new TV, you get the Apple Tele with the internal box. Also as I said Apple would probably need to license the Apple TV technology to other brands like Sony, Panny, and Pioneer etc. So people who want to go with the iTunes service but are brand loyal can stay brand loyal and still get an iTunes Ready TV, or get a non-iTunes Ready TV and buy the external box. That would pretty much cover every taste and preference.
That product offering is too complicated for Apple's style.
And we ALL know what great foresight you have. Whatever happened to leopardvision.com?*
Oh, right.
Dang Ireland. You just got TREATED.
Happy St. Patty's Day though.
iTV is to get the computer on the TV not to insert itself between recording and the TV. As the guy above said, people shouldn't have to keep a dual core MacBookPro on just in case you want to relisten to American Idols.
iTV will grow slowly, at the exact speed of video content on iTunes.
Buy an iTV and buy a Miglia and that is all you need. If one breaks, you can just replace it. Why put it all in one box that would put too much money in one place. As long as both can run from one remote, I'll take two boxes.
Buy an iTV and buy a Miglia and that is all you need. If one breaks, you can just replace it. Why put it all in one box that would put too much money in one place. As long as both can run from one remote, I'll take two boxes.
The way I see it is that the iTV offering is the part that doesn't offer anything. I mean really, there's nothing to it but a few cute graphics, it basically does nothing.
Stringing a long svideo cable and IR extender up 3 flights of stairs from my Mac to my TV would be about as useful -- heck at least then I'd get something worthwhile on the screen. 2 boxes, 2 remotes, why? By overly "simplifying" things, Apple has overly complicated things by adding an extremely limited box that takes up space [which is usually tight enough in a normal living room setup], and adding a dumb little remote. Unless I want to go buy yet another universal remote, I'm stuck then with Apple's mini-useless remote.
There are lots of products that can be justified with enough features or standalone functionality to hold their own as a separate device. I don't feel the iTV is one of them by any means. While the very small feature-set might be interesting to a select few, I'm overly sure that this thing will not be well received after its initial offering unless they add a DVR, lower the price drastically, or add a significant subscription based AppleCable service. Yes I know, who am I, I know nothing. Let's just wait and see how the numbers play out post-2 months release.
720P TV Show content is coming soon; I guarantee it, but I wouldn't hold your breath for 1080P movie content.
I agree. I hope it will be released at or soon after AppleTV is available.
I also expect that these will include subtitles for the hearing impaired that can be turned on/off. I gather this as Jobs mention that Quicktime will be getting subtitle abilities with Leopard. And, it seems logical that Apple would add support for the hearing impaired.
...to license the Apple TV technology to other brands like Sony, Panny, and Pioneer etc. So people who want to go with the iTunes service but are brand loyal can stay brand loyal and still get an iTunes Ready TV, or get a non-iTunes Ready TV and buy the external box. That would pretty much cover every taste and preference.
I will make a prediction that I think everyone would agree with, Apple will never license Apple TV technology to another manufacturer. They may at some point in time license Fair Play if they think they need to, but not the rest of it.
I don't foresee Apple making a TV with the box built in. What happens if the box breaks? What happens if the TV breaks? That would be way to expensive to have as one box.
Firstly, the box containing the ATv could be removable, or optional. No big deal there. It doesn't preclude Apple from continuing the current version either.
Also, Apple TV is suppose to be usable by anyone -- and most people wouldn't buy an Apple Television, myself included.
Sure, most people won't buy a Mac either, should Apple cease making them?
If Apple could sell a million Tv's a year, not an impossible task, as many people WOULD buy them, and a lot of Tv's are sold around the world each year, that would be well over a billion dollars a year for them, likely over two billion. Not a small addition.
I don't think it's impossible.
Am I the only person that watches more than 2 TV shows? I would be lost without the ability to flip through many channels. Picking 1 show is nice if you know exactly what that *1* show is. But I normally flip through many channels to find all kinds of random stuff I'd never have seen or heard of otherwise. And before you say it....the iTMS "guide" isn't the same. All that is, is the most popular major shows. If I were to "flip" through that [I need more than a 30 second preview], I'd run through a hundred dollars per night. At least for me, buying per-episode is totally ridiculous.
I've gone through this same argument with people recently.
The metrics work if only a few shows are watched, but without Apple also offering subscriptions, there would be no way for the hundreds of inveterate channel flippers to be happy.
Same thing is true for the cost structure.
I'm not convinced that the Apple TV can't do 5.1 sound. While there may not (yet) be content available from the iTMS encoded with digital sound, it doesn't appear to be technically impossible.
5.1 is digitally encoded, and actually can require less work from the playback device than analog audio, since the digital bit stream is output raw and de-encoded by your SS Receiver. I can see no reason that films from Apple couldn't be encoded with digital and output as such over the Fiber connection.
I agree totally.
Anyone have any reputable quotes/links that say Apple TV won't do 5.1??
I agree totally.
Anyone have any reputable quotes/links that say Apple TV won't do 5.1??
Best reference that I know of, i.e., that it supports surround sound and more is right on the Apple site.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.h...m=304277#faq26
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4. Bought a HDMI switcher from Monoprice.com and a Harmony remote. Yeah, both of them added $200 to the overall cost of the system, but well worth it. Remote is configurable through USB on my Macbook Pro, 1 time set up, 1 button for Watch DVD, 1 button for Watch TV, etc. IT figures out what to do, which item(s) to turn on or off and in what order, which switch to switch. Flawless. Wife is impressed and LOVES it. Heck, I'm impressed at how easy it is. Couldn't live with a any other remote.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 $88. Works great
or
http://www.extrememac.com/audio/av_cables/switcher.php $99. Nice look.
Anyone that buys an HDTV and spends a few bucks should probably invest in the right goodies to make it look and sound good, and make it easy to control with a decent remote that is easily configured. Otherwise, don't bother.
Thanks so much. I have a Harmony Remote (H659) but wasn't aware that they had released a software update that now makes them compatible with intel Macs, until I read your post then visited Logitech's site to d/load the update. Thanks. Previously, I had to run the software and program the Mac using my wife's 12" Powerbook.
I also didn't know there was such a device as the HDMI switcher, b/c that's exactly what I need. I paid a lot of money for a custom home theater install but, alas, my beautiful Samsung 50" plasma only has 1 HDMI port, which my HD Tivo/DirecTv is using. With the switcher, however, I can now also connect the AppleTv via HDMi as well.
Awesome and thanks again.
YoungTurk
And we ALL know what great foresight you have. Whatever happened to leopardvision.com?*
Oh, right.
Yeah, I meant to upload something like this but I've not go round to it because I've been a bit busy replying to comments like this and making cups of tea
Dang Ireland. You just got TREATED.
Happy St. Patty's Day though.
Thank you, same same.