Busting into an Apple TV (photos)

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  • Reply 61 of 66
    spindriftspindrift Posts: 674member
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    I'd rather my surgery not consist of a foreign doctor with shaky hands playing a video game of my insides from somewhere in Europe.



    That's already a reality and is used every day.
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    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
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    That's already a reality and is used every day.



    And when talk arises about video games, it's already been shown that surgeons who play them on a regular basis, have steadier hands, and are better surgeons.
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    sjksjk Posts: 603member
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    That's already a reality and is used every day.



    Maybe sucralose already knew that and was simply stating s/he didn't want to take part in that form of surgery.
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    spindriftspindrift Posts: 674member
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    Maybe sucralose already knew that and was simply stating s/he didn't want to take part in that form of surgery.



    Yep perhaps they did.
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  • Reply 65 of 66
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    Dp-Class amps put out very little heat. Unlike analog amps, which are rarely more than 20% efficient, these range from about 75% to 90%. Many need no venting at all.



    True, but not everyone has a digital amplifier. I'd still say there's a preponderance of gear out there that needs ventilation.



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    Venting through the top is not required, and in fact much pro equipment is rear vented, because of the requirements of rack mounting.



    The same is true for Apple's servers, which put out enormous volumes of heat.



    Top venting is more a matter of cost and manufacturing convenience.



    Of course it is. But what's wrong with that? Having done some professional audio/video post, I'm well aware of the design aesthetic in the studio world. However, is it necessarily a good thing to conform the cooling method to the design aesthetic? A rhetorical question... I'm not debating the design principles of professional studio equipment here because the conditions are very different. It's a business model in which I can cost justify spending thousands of dollars for rackmount units that have adequate cooling fans, use assloads of electricity that again I can afford since I'm charging up the yazoo for studio time, and my control room is sound isolated from the acoustic chamber so it doesn't really matter how much fan noise I'm generating from the rackmounts near the mixing console.



    Here I'm talking about a typical consumer system consisting of decent separates.



    Within its own market, having different design criteria than recording studio gear, AppleTV proves that you can serve the design aesthetic AND keep cost down... both in terms of manufacturing cost and energy expenditure. It dissipates heat efficiently, it's dead quiet, and it looks pretty damned cool.
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    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
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    True, but not everyone has a digital amplifier. I'd still say there's a preponderance of gear out there that needs ventilation.



    Of course there is. But I'm talking about Apple, or even some third party, designing an amp. They wouldn't take one off the shelf, unless they used a modular part. More new designs are D-Class, and we will see even more of them as time goes on.



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    Of course it is. But what's wrong with that? Having done some professional audio/video post, I'm well aware of the design aesthetic in the studio world. However, is it necessarily a good thing to conform the cooling method to the design aesthetic? A rhetorical question... I'm not debating the design principles of professional studio equipment here because the conditions are very different. It's a business model in which I can cost justify spending thousands of dollars for rackmount units that have adequate cooling fans, use assloads of electricity that again I can afford since I'm charging up the yazoo for studio time, and my control room is sound isolated from the acoustic chamber so it doesn't really matter how much fan noise I'm generating from the rackmounts near the mixing console.



    Most pro amps are cheap, not expensive. It doesn't cost much to build a good, reliable pro amp.



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    Here I'm talking about a typical consumer system consisting of decent separates.



    Sure, what's decent? I have Bryston power amps. But a pro amp can cost 10% of what they cost, and almost no one will be able to tell the difference. Good audio equipment doesn't have to be large, or expensive.



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    Within its own market, having different design criteria than recording studio gear, AppleTV proves that you can serve the design aesthetic AND keep cost down... both in terms of manufacturing cost and energy expenditure. It dissipates heat efficiently, it's dead quiet, and it looks pretty damned cool.



    I simply used pro recording gear as an example of a wall of heat. Few studios have more than the usual conditioning.



    I wouldn't expect Apple to need more than perhaps 50 watts per channel times 5. If that were all D-Class, the heat would be negligible.



    A true 1,000 watt sub plate amp, when constructed as a D-Class model, doesn't even need heatsinking.
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