Amazon leaks Adobe CS3 pricing, availability dates, code split

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in Mac Software edited January 2014
One of the largest online retailers has let slip the entire launch strategy for Adobe's Creative Suite 3 and its various individual apps -- and revealed that PowerPC-based Macs may soon become second-class citizens in the program designer's eyes.



Adobe may not be set to formally announce its CS3 software lineup until March 27th, but a leak by Amazon Canada has laid bare almost all of the software developer's price plans days in advance.



While the full price list borders on the intimidating, the cost for users varies from as little as $110 Canadian ($95 US) for a Contribute CS3 upgrade to $3,440 ($2,969 US) for the complete Master Collection that bundles Adobe's deluxe artistic and video editing tools.



The CS3 Design and Production Premium suites for artists remain under wraps, though the Web Standard edition will sell for $1,375 ($1,186 US), suggesting a ballpark figure for its Design equal. European prices were revealed on Friday.



Not all of these offerings will be available to every Mac user, however. Amazon has tellingly earmarked each Mac edition with separate "Mac OS X" and "Mac OS X Intel" labels that indicate which of Apple's computers will run Adobe's latest software. Although most users of legacy PowerPC systems can be assured that their existing tools will see new life in the CS3 upgrade, including current CS2 and former Macromedia web apps, the Master Collection is listed as Intel-only -- revealing that some or all of the revived Mac video editing components are unlikely to ever receive native PowerPC code.



Those looking to return to Encore, Premiere Pro, or Soundbooth will also have to wait longer than the majority of their fellow users, if published release dates prove to be more than just Amazon's rough shipping estimates. Most of Adobe's new packages will ship as early as April 20th; less than fortunate shoppers hoping to pick up the top-end Master Collection are told to wait until July 1st, however, suggesting that the online store has been fed information directly from Adobe's sell sheets.



With the majority of Adobe's strategy now exposed, Tuesday's announcement needs only to formalize US prices to give customers a complete snapshot of CS3's future.



Adobe Creative Suite 3.0 Retail Packaging (click for larger view).



Update: Amazon's US website now lists Adobe Creative Suite CS3 Web Premium for $1599, Adobe Creative Suite CS3 Master Collection for $2499, Adobe Creative Suite CS3 Production Premium for $1199 and Adobe Creative Suite CS3 Design Premium for $1599.



Adobe Creative Suite 3.0 Bundle Breakdown.
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  • Reply 1 of 47
    Not so good for me and my powerbook.
  • Reply 2 of 47
    so many boxes!
  • Reply 3 of 47
    hypoluxahypoluxa Posts: 620member
    Ok this is total BS in my opinion...Adobe has had all the time in the world to convert all their major apps to a uni binary.. why would they alienate a major % of users who are still using PPC macs? I for one am one of them (DCG5 user), and am not going to be upgrading anytime soon to an Intel mac when my machine is barely 2 yrs old. I just don't get it.
  • Reply 4 of 47
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 28,378member
    A thought here... Adobe's software packaging is utter crap.



    Ever since the CS series product came out, it has been very difficult to visually distinguish the apps, and the CS3 stuff looks ten times worse. Holy ----!.



    I suppose one could blame it on the current raft of designers out there with only a few years under their belts, but Adobe should take most of the blame for not insisting on something more distinctive... Really awful, awful stuff. I honestly can't tell the difference between any of the packages now, other than by reading the name. If I'm a store-level consumer, there's no way I could relate if I knew of the old Illustrator and Photoshop boxes. Illustrator always had the woman in the clamshell and Photoshop always had a camera lens with an eye.



    Adobe... hire someone else with experience if there are any good studios left. I'd be happy to work on retainer as Art Director. I'd even be willing to discuss strategies for a percentage of increased sales with an improved packaging line.
  • Reply 5 of 47
    boogabooga Posts: 1,071member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hypoluxa View Post


    Ok this is total BS in my opinion...Adobe has had all the time in the world to convert all their major apps to a uni binary.. why would they alienate a major % of users who are still using PPC macs? I for one am one of them (DCG5 user), and am not going to be upgrading anytime soon to an Intel mac when my machine is barely 2 yrs old. I just don't get it.



    It's a pretty sound business strategy on their part... the people for whom the extra performance of an Intel Mac are worth it are their primary customers, so almost all of them will be on Intel. And it would cost quite a lot to back-port some of the functionality to PowerPC for the packages that weren't in CS2, while porting from Win32 to Carbon is probably a lot easier. So from a return-on-investment standpoint, it's a no-brainer decision.
  • Reply 6 of 47
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hypoluxa View Post


    Ok this is total BS in my opinion...Adobe has had all the time in the world to convert all their major apps to a uni binary.. why would they alienate a major % of users who are still using PPC macs? I for one am one of them (DCG5 user), and am not going to be upgrading anytime soon to an Intel mac when my machine is barely 2 yrs old. I just don't get it.



    Take the expected profit of making a Universal Binary version of CS3, then divide by the cost* to create for both Intel and PPC platforms.



    Now, take the expected profit of making a Intel Binary version of CS3, then divide by the cost to create for only the Intel platform.



    Greater value prevails.





    * Cost also includes the profit lost from delay to market due to writing, testing and optimizing CS3 software for a 2nd platform.
  • Reply 7 of 47
    cubertcubert Posts: 728member
    Doesn't Amazon ALWAYS seem to do this? It seems like you could just insert most products that Apple has released in the last 5 years into the headline, and it would be true.
  • Reply 8 of 47
    m.o.s.tm.o.s.t Posts: 255member
    Does anyone know the future of Macromedia/Adobe Director MX 2004 ?? I did not see it?
  • Reply 9 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hypoluxa View Post


    Adobe has had all the time in the world to convert all their major apps to a uni binary.. why would they alienate a major % of users who are still using PPC macs? I for one am one of them (DCG5 user), and am not going to be upgrading anytime soon to an Intel mac when my machine is barely 2 yrs old. I just don't get it.



    I think this is the same thing we were told 3 or 4 months ago.



    ie: Adobe, which discontinued its video products for Mac several years ago, is bringing its video products to Mac. However - it is doing Intel only for those products.



    I don't think this article contradicts that earlier report in any way. Anyone know more?



    If so we can relax - All the Adobe apps that are currently available on the Mac will continue to be available for PPC Mac. Intel owners will have some extra choices.
  • Reply 10 of 47
    deestardeestar Posts: 105member
  • Reply 11 of 47
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    So Web Premium Upgrade should be around US$600 or less. I can swing that!



    Photoshop CS3 Extended

    Flash CS3 Pro

    Dreamweaver CS3

    Fireworks CS3

    Contribute CS3

    Illustrator CS3

    Acrobat 8 Pro



    It's Christmas time for my Dock



    I'd like to think the pricing would vary based on how MANY of the bundled apps you already own (I have all but Illustrator, but do own Freehand) but I can deal either way. I'm still using pretty old versions like DW MX and PS 7! \



    P.S. Here's AI's chart of what's in the bundles: http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2596



    EDIT: Thanks Deestar!



    Also, here's PS CS3 vs. PS CS3 "Extended":

    http://www.adobe.com/products/photos...sext_info.html
  • Reply 12 of 47
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cubert


    Doesn't Amazon ALWAYS seem to do this? It seems like you could just insert most products that Apple has released in the last 5 years into the headline, and it would be true.



    Notable exceptions would be iLife '07 iWork '07 and .Mac 2007.
  • Reply 13 of 47
    icfireballicfireball Posts: 2,594member
    The box designs are not HORRIBLE, but they look sort of cheap. They remind me of all of those early website templates that were WAY overdone.
  • Reply 14 of 47
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,094member
    The color flows don't serve a purpose to inform the prospective buyer what type of market this software is used within.



    Making every package look like a desktop wallpaper with some non-linear/chaotic plot curves that are ala filters is quite artsy I'll agree. Too bad that the publishing industry is mostly text with some graphics to enhance the textual content.
  • Reply 15 of 47
    July 1st!!! That is ugly. I'm so sick of InDesign crashing on me several times per day!
  • Reply 16 of 47
    junkiejunkie Posts: 122member
    RIP Freehand?
  • Reply 17 of 47
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,232member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by M.O.S.T View Post


    Does anyone know the future of Macromedia/Adobe Director MX 2004 ?? I did not see it?



    Yeah, Director. What about Director?

    Dig up some rumors about that, AI. Director has always been paiinfully slow on Mac OS X. I hope they're giving it a huge boost for intel macs, and that they clean up the UI and stuff.
  • Reply 18 of 47
    fuyutsukifuyutsuki Posts: 293member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Booga View Post


    ?while porting from Win32 to Carbon is probably a lot easier?



    You hit the nail on the head there. I reckon that CS4 will be Intel only for just that reason. Adobe have always hated the extra work in keeping a Mac and a Windows port of their software in development, and being one of the prime pushers behind Carbon in the first place they're probably using the Intel transition to streamline their process.



    PowerPC: 1994-2006 as far as Adobe care. And the way they code, they're probably right.
  • Reply 19 of 47
    donebyleedonebylee Posts: 521member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by apprehensive View Post


    July 1st!!! That is ugly. I'm so sick of InDesign crashing on me several times per day!



    Calm down.



    The only way you have to wait until July 1st is if you're buying the master's collection version. It is delayed, as Adobe said it would be, because their port of the video apps to Intel binaries is going to take longer than the other products are.



    InDesign in all the non-video packages looks to be shipping on April 20th, if Amazon got it right.







    The new look of Illy has me very interested. I have played with PhotoShop CS3 and liked what I saw before problems with beta Bridge caused me to uninstall it.



    Now the hundred-million-dollar question: "How much is it gonna cost me to go from CS2 Premium to the CS3 Design Premium?"



    \



    I didn't see any upgrade prices. Did anyone else see anything on this?
  • Reply 20 of 47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by donebylee View Post


    Calm down.



    The only way you have to wait until July 1st is if you're buying the master's collection version. It is delayed, as Adobe said it would be, because their port of the video apps to Intel binaries is going to take longer than the other products are.



    InDesign in all the non-video packages looks to be shipping on April 20th, if Amazon got it right.







    The new look of Illy has me very interested. I have played with PhotoShop CS3 and liked what I saw before problems with beta Bridge caused me to uninstall it.



    Now the hundred-million-dollar question: "How much is it gonna cost me to go from CS2 Premium to the CS3 Design Premium?"



    \



    I didn't see any upgrade prices. Did anyone else see anything on this?



    Ahh, that's more reasonable. Doubt I'll be getting the master collection, just the Designer Premium. I hope they do offer upgrade pricing. They have many users over a barrel with the whole Intel thing.
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