Safari...

der kopf

Well, must be the most direct goodness stemming from MWSF. As a starter of one of the numerous threads on iBrowse, I'm happy to say they finally delivered. No wonder that there hasn't been word from microsoft for months. They knew.



Anyhow. The GUI of this app (I'm typing on it) could be much improved. I hate their gratuitous use of brushed metal here (AGAIN!). That's definitely not good for me. More along the line of Mail. I understand their minimalist setup, and that's more than cool, but the metal.... looks a bit like somebody's mockup of what a browser of apple would look like.



Anyway... reactions?

bacchus_2003

Safari so far has been real nice, all hour or so that i've had it...



One thing though, the lack of tabbed browsers has me wondering if i'm going to be able to continue to use it.



Chimera and Mozilla have spoiled me so.



Bacchus

markaaron

I'm still too giddy to post a cohesive reply... but first impressions are cool. I tried surfing some notoriously buggy sites and Safari handled them better than Netscape7 or Explorer... and thanks for importing all my Explorer favourites to save me the hassle of actually typing



MA

buonrotto

They pulled a fast one on all of us. No Gecko, instead they use Konqueror. Slim, tough perhaps more limited (I know nothing of it really) in terms of development as a platform or framework.

mac's girl

im not crying about brushed metal... hehe.



the font is smaller and harder to read than in IE. but safari is smoother and i dont have misisng text and gaps on the pages. however, i would like to be able to open the mail program right from safari, like in IE.



no complaints...this is just a beta and i expect it to get better. i will try to wean myself off IE in the meantime. copying main bookmarks over now.



edit: im still getting pop-ups... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



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mediaman

Anybody descovered a way to import bookmarks from OmniWeb or Chimera?

Draging and dropping only takes the address, not the name



Humm. It doesn't put the little red dots under spelling mistakes, and the option to disable animated gifs would be nice.

ghost_user_name

[quote]Originally posted by Mediaman:

<strong>Humm. It doesn't put the little red dots under spelling mistakes</strong><hr></blockquote>Control-click in the text field. Choose Spelling -&gt; Check Spelling as You Type. That is the same method as in any app. Alternatively you can choose this from the Edit menu.

sc_markt

Anybody know if you can change the default search text box from google to whatever you want?

giaguara

Safari identifies itself as Mozilla.



one thing that i miss in it - T A B S !!!!!!



Chimera is faster boosted. If it had tabs i think i could use it.. it's not bad but it needs more speed and the tabs

eman

[quote]Originally posted by Mulattabianca:

<strong>Safari identifies itself as Mozilla.



one thing that i miss in it - T A B S !!!!!!



Chimera is faster boosted. If it had tabs i think i could use it.. it's not bad but it needs more speed and the tabs </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep. It definately needs tabs.

burningwheel

what's the big deal about tabs

frank_t

Mulattabianca get your ass on AIM we need to chat



Frank_t

burningwheel

[quote]Originally posted by markaaron:

<strong>I'm still too giddy to post a cohesive reply... but first impressions are cool. I tried surfing some notoriously buggy sites and Safari handled them better than Netscape7 or Explorer... and thanks for importing all my Explorer favourites to save me the hassle of actually typing



MA</strong><hr></blockquote>



it didn't import my bookmarks but i was able to drag them over. i lied it did. i found them



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sledgehammer

I mostly will just be seconding what other people have said I think. I am using safari onw, and I am very pleased. I need tabs. I have gotten so used to them and I love them, multiple windows just feels so cluttered to me, and it's moer of a pain to keep them organized. And I don't know if I like the brushed metal in an app like web browser. I have never had a big problem with the metal look, but the way a browser window tends to occupy most of the screen, I think it would look better to have pin stripes to match the menu bar, that it is so close (in proximity) to, unlike most of my other metal apps. The only other things I can think of right now: while I like the omission of the bar along the bottom of the window, I like to be able to mouse over a link and see where it points. And I was surprised to see that java alerts don't open as sheets. I've gotten very used to that in Chimera and I think it is more elegant than a window. Think that's all for now. Over all, good jopb on this one Apple.

cpac

couple of things:



(1) Nice browser so far, like the bookmark management. (For those looking to import from OW - open the OW bookmark file in one window, then open the bookmark screen in another window. Drag and drog. (this gets the name thing right, but doesn't allow you to drag more than one at a time unfortunately).



(2) Where's all the refinements of OW? No ability to do equivalents to short cuts, no ability to block ads (just pop-ups). No ability (so far as I can see) to check bookmarks for changes.



(3) STOP tiling new windows. When I have a browser at full screen, I want it to open a new window directly on top of the open one.



(4) Can't log in to some sites (e.g. Westlaw.com, my university's Student Information System) - it gets stuck in some sort of loop with one, and never succeeds at logging on with the other.



(5) Some substitute for tabs (especially if they don't fix (3)



(6) Stop switching the active window just because a page was unreachable or timed out.





That's my list so far.



Other problems?

jll

[quote]Originally posted by Mulattabianca:

<strong>Safari identifies itself as Mozilla.



one thing that i miss in it - T A B S !!!!!!



Chimera is faster boosted. If it had tabs i think i could use it.. it's not bad but it needs more speed and the tabs </strong><hr></blockquote>





Even IE has Mozilla in its ID.

sushiism

cpac, a few things...

ITS A BETA FOR GOD SAKES!

if you want those features then god damn suggest them, heck it hasnt even got any actual preferences yet and your whining that it hasnt got these small features. God if it bothers you that much send that to apple not us ¬_¬

torifile

The "view source" window could use alot of refinement. I love OW's version of it and I'd like safari to implement it. It can't be too hard, can it?

giaguara

[quote]Originally posted by JLL:

<strong>





Even IE has Mozilla in its ID.</strong><hr></blockquote>



IE is identified as IE, not as Mozilla. OW is identified as Netscape unless you decide otherwise. iCab as iCab, links as links or nothing .. Chimera and Safari are seen by stats (at least so far) mainly as Mozilla.

evo

Anyone know the best way to import Chimera bookmarks to Safari?

ghost_user_name

Massively loving this app.



Interface needs a bit of work (square next to rounded fields? eew... but otherwise, it's my default browser.



Sorry Omni. OW5 may be great, but it just didn't come quick enough...