I'm old enough to have read about the Angels/Stones incident.
If I remember correctly (I'm playing fair and not Googling) the Stones hired the Hell's Angels for security at one of their shows. Don't remember the city, but I think it may have been in CA. Midway through one of the fans ended up stabbed by an Angel as I recall.
Yeah...that would be a bad roll-out for the iPhone...
I can see the ad now:
"this is how you hold the iPhone while running,
this is how you use the iPhone to try to shield yourself,
I trust that unlocking will happen quickly (if they aren't sold unlocked). I don't care about visual voicemail for now, though I'm sure Rogers will have that sorted out for their launch.
I don't know how that works in The Great White North, so I can't say if it would work later, when Rogers starts selling them (assuming they do). If not, it's quite a risk.
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It'll be a really nice iPod, too.
Aside for the paltry memory that you would be getting for a $500 or $600 iPod. If Apple decided to lose money on the device for the first nine months, and had installed 16 GB and 32 GB, then yes, that'd be different.
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Can't I just want one?!
Of course! You're SUPPOSED to want one. My wife already wants one. I want one too, if third party apps show up, and the ones I want, and need, are there. 3G would be a need as well, if I'm going to replace my Sprint 700p high speed with this.
If I remember correctly (I'm playing fair and not Googling) the Stones hired the Hell's Angels for security at one of their shows. Don't remember the city, but I think it may have been in CA. Midway through one of the fans ended up stabbed by an Angel as I recall.
Yeah...that would be a bad roll-out for the iPhone...
I can see the ad now:
"this is how you hold the iPhone while running,
this is how you use the iPhone to try to shield yourself,
this is how you dial 9-1-1"
fade to the Apple logo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that in the movie, Gimme Shelter?.... yep, turns out it was.
Of course! You're SUPPOSED to want one. My wife already wants one. I want one too, if third party apps show up, and the ones I want, and need, are there. 3G would be a need as well, if I'm going to replace my Sprint 700p high speed with this.
More like "Super cool and smart Jobs!" If waiting lists existed, there would be way too much potential for abuse and corruption via shady managers giving choice spots to their friends, etc. Steve is being admirably equitable, IMHO.
I guess...
I don't think equity is what is driving his desire for no waiting lists... Well actually, it is, just a different type then your post suggests.
It might actually be easier to stay up the night before and order one when they are available on the Apple on-line store. Don't know if that will be one minute after midnight (EDT?) or sometime in the wee hours of the morning, but at least you'll be comfortable, have all the coffee you want and have a bathroom close to rid yourself of the coffee.
If I was buying one the first month I would stick to the on-line store as the Apple & ATT Stores will be chaos - and probably sold out by the time I got to the head of the line.
This is a great idea, but what if you want to upgrade a current AT&T account? Will you be able to do that online?
This place is crawling with videophiles...so I figured I would toss this idea out: spend 6/29 at an att store rolling tape, maybe doing interviews...go to a store where there are no local tv affiliates and if something does go down, sell the footage to the affiliates, and if it is really good, sell it to the networks/cable channels
Absolutely... THE PS3 effect. Lines = News = Free Publicity (as if nobody will be talking about it).
Hopefully it sells better than the PS3 \
It will be another PS3 if there is no price cuts: 500$ and a 2 year contract==a sucker-only item
Apple is a great brand, but so was Sony: not too long ago, the Playstation was just like the iPod is now...technology is cyclical.
A blackberry can be had for ~$200 and it has most of what the iphone has...the iPod is actually priced comparably to the competition, the iPhone is not...
Why do people keep treating the iPhone like a stand-alone device? it is a dongle...as a stand-alone device, it would be worth that price, but without the (minimum) $40/Mo voice and ~$35/Mo data plans it is a BRICK!
the entry level model should be priced in the $250-350 range.
Oh so long ago. Well now the Hells Angels are a bunch of dentist on chrome so it wouldn't be so bad. Wait a minute dentist with chrome toys that would be painful.
We're talking Jobs here, it oughta be a bunch of Buddists teaching us equanimity and then we all walk away not caring about no stinkin iGottas.
Isn't there some rule that if we where there we wouldn't remember it and so if we remember it we must not have been there. It was the 60's and we where stoned.
Oh so long ago. Well now the Hells Angels are a bunch of dentist on chrome so it wouldn't be so bad. Wait a minute dentist with chrome toys that would be painful.
We're talking Jobs here, it oughta be a bunch of Buddists teaching us equanimity and then we all walk away not caring about no stinkin iGottas.
Isn't there some rule that if we where there we wouldn't remember it and so if we remember it we must not have been there. It was the 60's and we where stoned.
Oh so long ago. Well now the Hells Angels are a bunch of dentist on chrome so it wouldn't be so bad. Wait a minute dentist with chrome toys that would be painful.
No, you're thinking 'Harley-Davidson enthusiasts'. THOSE are the dentists riding chrome. The Hells Angels still exist as a dangerous, violent, and often drug-peddling or gun-running gang. They also kill and get killed by members of rival motorcycle gangs on a fairly regular basis.
They have an excellent 'PR machine' of sorts, that always insists that its 'just a few bad eggs' that do these things; and while its possible that mainly 'core' members are doing most of the criminal activities, its still kinda BS. Their clubhouses are constantly getting raided, and members are getting busted for racketeering, drug dealing, etc. Canada considers them a criminal organization. They don't seem to have changed all that much from Altamont.
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I'm old enough to have read about the Angels/Stones incident.
If I remember correctly (I'm playing fair and not Googling) the Stones hired the Hell's Angels for security at one of their shows. Don't remember the city, but I think it may have been in CA. Midway through one of the fans ended up stabbed by an Angel as I recall.
Yeah...that would be a bad roll-out for the iPhone...
I can see the ad now:
"this is how you hold the iPhone while running,
this is how you use the iPhone to try to shield yourself,
this is how you dial 9-1-1"
fade to the Apple logo.
I trust that unlocking will happen quickly (if they aren't sold unlocked). I don't care about visual voicemail for now, though I'm sure Rogers will have that sorted out for their launch.
I don't know how that works in The Great White North, so I can't say if it would work later, when Rogers starts selling them (assuming they do). If not, it's quite a risk.
It'll be a really nice iPod, too.
Aside for the paltry memory that you would be getting for a $500 or $600 iPod. If Apple decided to lose money on the device for the first nine months, and had installed 16 GB and 32 GB, then yes, that'd be different.
Can't I just want one?!
Of course! You're SUPPOSED to want one. My wife already wants one. I want one too, if third party apps show up, and the ones I want, and need, are there. 3G would be a need as well, if I'm going to replace my Sprint 700p high speed with this.
If I remember correctly (I'm playing fair and not Googling) the Stones hired the Hell's Angels for security at one of their shows. Don't remember the city, but I think it may have been in CA. Midway through one of the fans ended up stabbed by an Angel as I recall.
Yeah...that would be a bad roll-out for the iPhone...
I can see the ad now:
"this is how you hold the iPhone while running,
this is how you use the iPhone to try to shield yourself,
this is how you dial 9-1-1"
fade to the Apple logo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that in the movie, Gimme Shelter?.... yep, turns out it was.
Of course! You're SUPPOSED to want one. My wife already wants one. I want one too, if third party apps show up, and the ones I want, and need, are there. 3G would be a need as well, if I'm going to replace my Sprint 700p high speed with this.
Conspicuous consumption is ok, in my book.
Conspicuous consumption is ok, in my book.
Well, I'm very conspicuous.
More like "Super cool and smart Jobs!" If waiting lists existed, there would be way too much potential for abuse and corruption via shady managers giving choice spots to their friends, etc. Steve is being admirably equitable, IMHO.
I guess...
I don't think equity is what is driving his desire for no waiting lists... Well actually, it is, just a different type then your post suggests.
"Control crowds?" Are they going to use fire hoses and dogs?
Gas and riot control gear
They did, didn't they?
huh?
It might actually be easier to stay up the night before and order one when they are available on the Apple on-line store. Don't know if that will be one minute after midnight (EDT?) or sometime in the wee hours of the morning, but at least you'll be comfortable, have all the coffee you want and have a bathroom close to rid yourself of the coffee.
If I was buying one the first month I would stick to the on-line store as the Apple & ATT Stores will be chaos - and probably sold out by the time I got to the head of the line.
This is a great idea, but what if you want to upgrade a current AT&T account? Will you be able to do that online?
Remember the opening day of Zune sales? They must have had thousands of people hired for crowd control that day. Remember that? C'mon, sure you do.
They did, didn't they?
huh?
Well, sure. But they had to have someone in the stores other than the salespeople.
Well, sure. But they had to have someone in the stores other than the salespeople.
"Control crowds?" Are they going to use fire hoses and dogs?
Nope. One word: Tasers.
Either that, or you'll be implanted with a pain chip in your neck in exchange for being let through the front door.
Alright, alright, I'll form an orderly line now.
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Frankly, I think it is Jobs just trying to make a bigger spectacle...
Absolutely... THE PS3 effect. Lines = News = Free Publicity (as if nobody will be talking about it).
Hopefully it sells better than the PS3
This place is crawling with videophiles...so I figured I would toss this idea out: spend 6/29 at an att store rolling tape, maybe doing interviews...go to a store where there are no local tv affiliates and if something does go down, sell the footage to the affiliates, and if it is really good, sell it to the networks/cable channels
a quick $500 with no post work.
Absolutely... THE PS3 effect. Lines = News = Free Publicity (as if nobody will be talking about it).
Hopefully it sells better than the PS3
It will be another PS3 if there is no price cuts: 500$ and a 2 year contract==a sucker-only item
Apple is a great brand, but so was Sony: not too long ago, the Playstation was just like the iPod is now...technology is cyclical.
A blackberry can be had for ~$200 and it has most of what the iphone has...the iPod is actually priced comparably to the competition, the iPhone is not...
the entry level model should be priced in the $250-350 range.
We're talking Jobs here, it oughta be a bunch of Buddists teaching us equanimity and then we all walk away not caring about no stinkin iGottas.
Isn't there some rule that if we where there we wouldn't remember it and so if we remember it we must not have been there. It was the 60's and we where stoned.
Oh so long ago. Well now the Hells Angels are a bunch of dentist on chrome so it wouldn't be so bad. Wait a minute dentist with chrome toys that would be painful.
We're talking Jobs here, it oughta be a bunch of Buddists teaching us equanimity and then we all walk away not caring about no stinkin iGottas.
Isn't there some rule that if we where there we wouldn't remember it and so if we remember it we must not have been there. It was the 60's and we where stoned.
Wrong Planet?
Oh so long ago. Well now the Hells Angels are a bunch of dentist on chrome so it wouldn't be so bad. Wait a minute dentist with chrome toys that would be painful.
No, you're thinking 'Harley-Davidson enthusiasts'. THOSE are the dentists riding chrome. The Hells Angels still exist as a dangerous, violent, and often drug-peddling or gun-running gang. They also kill and get killed by members of rival motorcycle gangs on a fairly regular basis.
They have an excellent 'PR machine' of sorts, that always insists that its 'just a few bad eggs' that do these things; and while its possible that mainly 'core' members are doing most of the criminal activities, its still kinda BS. Their clubhouses are constantly getting raided, and members are getting busted for racketeering, drug dealing, etc. Canada considers them a criminal organization. They don't seem to have changed all that much from Altamont.
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