Personally, I'm hoping Apple didn't get bored with them like they did clarisworks.
Bored with them? The mere fact that thought has even entered your head suggests you may not be aware how important these applications are to Apple, Apple's working on them, that's a given. iLife and iWork are as important as OS X itself IMO.
We know officially know that Leopard won't be there because the Leopard betas are feature complete, neither is in there, neither is mentioned on Apple's site, and those would be extra and very notable features.
Sebastian
That's assuming they are built-in. They could bundle it easily.
iLife will most likely be bundled with the OS, since Vista has raised the bar in this regard.
However, bundling iWork would instantly trigger the loss of MS Office from the platform. Apple is most likely holding back iWork as part of a deal with Redmond to allow Office to launch first.
Like it or not, Office is currently essential to keeping Macs in certain business environments. Obviously the day will come when Apple will go for Microsoft's jugular, but that day has not yet come.
iLife will most likely be bundled with the OS, since Vista has raised the bar in this regard.
However, bundling iWork would instantly trigger the loss of MS Office from the platform. Apple is most likely holding back iWork as part of a deal with Redmond to allow Office to launch first.
Like it or not, Office is currently essential to keeping Macs in certain business environments. Obviously the day will come when Apple will go for Microsoft's jugular, but that day has not yet come.
Personally, I've never bought iWork. I use microsoft office, as I can get a full copy of it for five dollars at my college because of an agreement with microsoft. iLife, however, I have bought. And really, it's such an integral part of the mac experience, I've always thought that it should just be included with the operating system. Like Frank777 said, a lot of people use office; I'd be willing to say that the vast majority of mac users use office. But bundling iLife with Leopard would be a WONDERFUL idea, and I would definitely buy it for $129.
iWork appears to be Leopard only. That doesn't necessarily bother me. I'm reading that Apple is wooing developer to move to Leopard only apps more than in recent years.
iWork and iLife may just be Leopard only and certainly this will rankle many users. Perhaps Apple softens the blow a bit by bundle the two together for a knockout price($99 for both??)
I plan to get heavy use out of both iWork and iLife in the next incarnations. I don't have enough memory to run the current iDVD and iMovie apps well. I'll be upgrading my storage and RAM and preparing for iLife.
I know that making them Leopard only will keep'em trim and allow Apple to focus on the new core technology advances in Leopard.
Frankly I'm tired of waiting for stragglers and I hope that developers who are keen on delivering solid Leopard apps begin to curry favor with people that want to enjoy modern computing and are willing to risk a few bumps and bruises.
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Personally, I'm hoping Apple didn't get bored with them like they did clarisworks.
Bored with them? The mere fact that thought has even entered your head suggests you may not be aware how important these applications are to Apple, Apple's working on them, that's a given. iLife and iWork are as important as OS X itself IMO.
iLife and iWork are as important as OS X itself IMO.
I agree; they are necessary to influence folks to make the switch. Together, with the OS they make a "complete package" as Steve put it.
We know officially know that Leopard won't be there because the Leopard betas are feature complete, neither is in there, neither is mentioned on Apple's site, and those would be extra and very notable features.
Sebastian
That's assuming they are built-in. They could bundle it easily.
However, bundling iWork would instantly trigger the loss of MS Office from the platform. Apple is most likely holding back iWork as part of a deal with Redmond to allow Office to launch first.
Like it or not, Office is currently essential to keeping Macs in certain business environments. Obviously the day will come when Apple will go for Microsoft's jugular, but that day has not yet come.
iLife will most likely be bundled with the OS, since Vista has raised the bar in this regard.
However, bundling iWork would instantly trigger the loss of MS Office from the platform. Apple is most likely holding back iWork as part of a deal with Redmond to allow Office to launch first.
Like it or not, Office is currently essential to keeping Macs in certain business environments. Obviously the day will come when Apple will go for Microsoft's jugular, but that day has not yet come.
Personally, I've never bought iWork. I use microsoft office, as I can get a full copy of it for five dollars at my college because of an agreement with microsoft. iLife, however, I have bought. And really, it's such an integral part of the mac experience, I've always thought that it should just be included with the operating system. Like Frank777 said, a lot of people use office; I'd be willing to say that the vast majority of mac users use office. But bundling iLife with Leopard would be a WONDERFUL idea, and I would definitely buy it for $129.
iWork and iLife may just be Leopard only and certainly this will rankle many users. Perhaps Apple softens the blow a bit by bundle the two together for a knockout price($99 for both??)
I plan to get heavy use out of both iWork and iLife in the next incarnations. I don't have enough memory to run the current iDVD and iMovie apps well. I'll be upgrading my storage and RAM and preparing for iLife.
I know that making them Leopard only will keep'em trim and allow Apple to focus on the new core technology advances in Leopard.
Frankly I'm tired of waiting for stragglers and I hope that developers who are keen on delivering solid Leopard apps begin to curry favor with people that want to enjoy modern computing and are willing to risk a few bumps and bruises.
One of those three places.
iLife is already practically "built in" with things like the Media Browser (which should be extended to iWork) so what's the difference?
What are you talking about? What's a media browser got to do with iLife? You can make a media browser with Automator in Tiger, I know I have.
I hope you are aware iLife isn't a media browser, here.