iPhone to feature glass surface, 8 hours of talk time

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  • Reply 21 of 90
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    I told everyone here about the switch to glass back in April, but no one really believed me.



    Not everyone here speculates...







    You were right on. If it is any solace (since you sound a tad miffed), I have to tell you that the first thought in my head when I read this story was, "didn't some guy say this here some time ago?"



    It might sound a bit contradictory, but if you posted more often, perhaps we might recall your contributions better!
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  • Reply 22 of 90
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,415member
    I guess it is not only the Canadians that are going to be suffering from iPhone-envy on the 29th. From today's Guardian newspaper, UK:

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    "There will only be one place to be, and it won't be Britain. When Apple's iPhone, lauded as the world's number one must-have product, goes on sale next week, Americans will be first in line and the rest of the world will be nowhere.



    The sleek black gadget ... is attracting the kind of super-hype that money can't buy before its launch on 29 June. But descriptions such as 'The God Machine' only serve to pile on the agony for British fans, who will have to wait until around Christmas for its arrival.



    'Everyone is desperate,' said Katie Lee, editor-in-chief of Shinyshiny.tv, a British gadget website aimed at women. 'The mania for Apple and the iPhone goes way beyond the US and people will be frustrated when they can't get one. I have absolutely no doubt that people will fly to America to get an iPhone.'

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  • Reply 23 of 90
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by disco View Post


    I told everyone here about the switch to glass back in April, but no one really believed me.



    Not everyone here speculates...



    Interesting. Reading your earlier post, the switch to glass was the least of it: you also heard tell that iPhone type multi-touch interface stuff was big for Leopard-- which doesn't appear to be the case, at the moment.



    The glass info gives your source some cred, though, so maybe multi-touch is one of those "big things a-brewin" deals that just hasn't quite broken the surface.



    I think we all expect some kind of broadening of the multi-touch concept through Apple's hardware; if you source is to be trusted it sounds like it might be sooner than later.
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  • Reply 24 of 90
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,699member
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    Interesting. Reading your earlier post, the switch to glass was the least of it: you also heard tell that iPhone type multi-touch interface stuff was big for Leopard-- which doesn't appear to be the case, at the moment.



    The glass info gives your source some cred, though, so maybe multi-touch is one of those "big things a-brewin" deals that just hasn't quite broken the surface.



    I think we all expect some kind of broadening of the multi-touch concept through Apple's hardware; if you source is to be trusted it sounds like it might be sooner than later.



    If that were true for Leopard, and the recent beta was "feature complete", then why wouldn't Jobs have mentioned it?



    Or, why hasn't some developer "anonymously" mentioned it, as always seems to happen, as it did with the rez independence earlier?
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  • Reply 25 of 90
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    If that were true for Leopard, and the recent beta was "feature complete", then why wouldn't Jobs have mentioned it?



    Or, why hasn't some developer "anonymously" mentioned it, as always seems to happen, as it did with the rez independence earlier?



    I don't think it is true, for Leopard. I take the posters meaning to be that multi-touch is being taken very seriously inside Apple as a next-gen UI paradigm, suggesting (to me, at least) that there might be new hardware on the near horizon.



    At least if the poster's source is to be believed, which, glass surface notwithstanding, is always a grain of salt type thing in my book.
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  • Reply 26 of 90
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,699member
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    I don't think it is true, for Leopard. I take the posters meaning to be that multi-touch is being taken very seriously inside Apple as a next-gen UI paradigm, suggesting (to me, at least) that there might be new hardware on the near horizon.



    At least if the poster's source is to be believed, which, glass surface notwithstanding, is always a grain of salt type thing in my book.



    Unless the version of 10.5 we will be buying will support it, new hardware won't be able to either.



    Unless you think they will release a separate software product, as they did with the Mighty Mouse.
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  • Reply 27 of 90
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Unless the version of 10.5 we will be buying will support it, new hardware won't be able to either.



    Unless you think they will release a separate software product, as they did with the Mighty Mouse.



    Yeah, something like that. I have no idea of course, and can't really imagine what kind of "big iPhone" type thing would even be practical, I'm just speculating what might be going on, if the guy's "source" is on the up and up.



    Of course, the simpler explanation is "he's not", but what fun is that?
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  • Reply 28 of 90
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,699member
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Yeah, something like that. I have no idea of course, and can't really imagine what kind of "big iPhone" type thing would even be practical, I'm just speculating what might be going on, if the guy's "source" is on the up and up.



    Of course, the simpler explanation is "he's not", but what fun is that?



    Well, his "source" could be him, attempting to make his speculation seem to be more reliable.



    We all make guesses. Some of them come true, and some don't.
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  • Reply 29 of 90
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    Well, his "source" could be him, attempting to make his speculation seem to be more reliable.



    We all make guesses. Some of them come true, and some don't.



    True, but as guesses go, "the iPhone is going to switch from a plastic to glass screen" seems pretty specific and not really the kind of thing somebody makes up to have fun, seeings as it is sort of low key and not very sexy at all.



    "Apple switching to matterless force field for iPhone screen", is more what you'd expect.
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  • Reply 30 of 90
    solsunsolsun Posts: 763member
    .. Sounds like he had a credible source, but i am a bit worried about how he said "engineers are concerned about the durability of the glass surface."
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  • Reply 31 of 90
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    Unless the version of 10.5 we will be buying will support it, new hardware won't be able to either.



    Unless you think they will release a separate software product, as they did with the Mighty Mouse.



    But consider this: Even if Leopard has multi-touch built-in, how would Jobs have demonstrated it, without new hardware?
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  • Reply 32 of 90
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    But consider this: Even if Leopard has multi-touch built-in, how would Jobs have demonstrated it, without new hardware?



    Aha! Freaky new iMacs, ahoy!
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  • Reply 33 of 90
    ftbotsbftbotsb Posts: 8member
    Still 11 days to release. The attention span of the media is about 5 days. We should see at least 2 more "Newsworthy" events that will bump iPhone to the top of the Tech News lists. I expect that one of the news items will be Reduced Instruction Set "Voice Control". If they've really done the collaboration with AT&T the way they say they have, expect to see the announcement of using AT&T Voice Recognition Back End Servers. In other words, the phone doesn't have to do it, some massive hive does it. Real 98% accurate speech to text dictation. This will be a premium package.



    From the Basement of the Science Building.
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  • Reply 34 of 90
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Looking through that old thread is pretty funny: like this.



    lol



    Re: iphone switching to glass- they are working down to the wire here aren't they? Two weeks away, and they're just now doing testing on battery life, and completing a major component change? We'd better all cross our fingers that nothing goes wrong...
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  • Reply 35 of 90
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by meelash View Post


    iphone switching to glass- they are working down to the wire here aren't they? Two weeks away, and there just now doing testing on battery life, and completing a major component change?



    Maybe they did change it back in April but saved the announcement until today to keep fueling the PR machine.
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  • Reply 36 of 90
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Maybe they did change it back in April but saved the announcement until today to keep fueling the PR machine.



    Which of course causes one to wonder if there are any other changes that they have waited to announce, to drive good press in these last few weeks.
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  • Reply 37 of 90
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,699member
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    Which of course causes one to wonder if there are any other changes that they have waited to announce, to drive good press in these last few weeks.



    I would think that at this time, it would be software related.



    Now that we appear to have learned that it will be compatible both with Exchange, and possibly, Outlook as well, big questions, we might find other pleasant surprises.



    But, that info didn't come from Apple.
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  • Reply 38 of 90
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Maybe they did change it back in April but saved the announcement until today to keep fueling the PR machine.



    I'm with you on this one. I really don't think they are switching it up two weeks before they go on sale. It seems impossible that there would be a sudden change to production in China as there wold be no way to get them finished, shipped to the US and then reshipped to stores in time for the 29th. There should be millions stockpiled in warehouses ready to be shipped to local stores.



    Is there anyway to tell if the ones seen in public have a plastic or glass screen?
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  • Reply 39 of 90
    ftbotsbftbotsb Posts: 8member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by meelash View Post


    Looking through that old thread is pretty funny: like this.



    lol



    Re: iphone switching to glass- they are working down to the wire here aren't they? Two weeks away, and there just now doing testing on battery life, and completing a major component change? We'd better all cross our fingers that nothing goes wrong...



    Maybe I didn't make my point clear. This is nothing new. This is Media Manipulation. They didn't just switch to glass. The battery life didn't just suddenly get better. They knew about this all along. This is maintaining and generating a level of hype that no one else does better. Not even Hollywood.
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  • Reply 40 of 90
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,699member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ftbotsb View Post


    Maybe I didn't make my point clear. This is nothing new. This is Media Manipulation. They didn't just switch to glass. The battery life didn't just suddenly get better. They knew about this all along. This is maintaining and generating a level of hype that no one else does better. Not even Hollywood.



    It's not likely that they had this "all along".



    They probably did upgrade it. they just didn't do it this week.
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