Page 3 of the Verizon document says that the iPhone doesn't have ring-tones!
Damn, it must be a bitch having a phone that you have to stare at for the visual cue that someone is calling. A lot of missed calls, I'd assume.
What a bunch of pansies.
-Clive
What missed calls?
You're just have to keep the phone screen in front of you while you walk down the street.
Don't worry though, I've heard that some of those accessories that are out before the iPhone is in the stores are neck braces to hold the phone in front of you, so you can use your hands to hold your other things, such as your briefcase.
I don't think you can, becase it says minimum contract requirement of 2 years, but my question is this. Would it be possible to convert my existing Cingular pay as you go plan to the iphone and then add a 2 year data plan?
Nothing on the iPhone that isn't already offered on WM phones, besides visual voicemail. I think companies will try to capture the interface of the iphone, but as far as functionality, the iPhone is lagging.
Not that I totally disagree with you but the interface does bring along some functionality such as seamless integration of applications, multitasking elegance, and better contact management, conference calling etc. Although you may be able to do much of the same things on Windows Mobile, it is so difficult to remember/figure out that hardly anyone uses those capabilities.
And I'm sure Cingular will be more than happy to sell you a 7 second ringtone for 1.99 through their Tones service!
Whoever wrote this, you obviously know very little about iTunes. Seeing as they sell an entire song for $.99, I doubt that Steve Jobs would let anyone more than double that price for a 7 second ringtone. Also, if anyone has been keeping up with the demos, they would realize that there is clearly a "Ringtones" tab in the iTunes interface. I for one could not be more excited about Friday and there is nothing that will stop me from getting my iPhone.
I don't think you can, becase it says minimum contract requirement of 2 years, but my question is this. Would it be possible to convert my pay as you go plan to the iphone and then add a 2 year data plan?
Thanks.
If you do pay as you go, then you do not have a contract or plan. At&t will most likely require you to stop doing pay as you go and sign a two year contract. But according to the recent articles on here and the activation demo on At&t's website, you should be able to carry over any current phone number from any network.
So I guess all of those "Business People" using Wi-Fi with their laptops this whole time have been doing so with little or no security. Interesting . . . . .
WiFi security has always been a little dubious, but most use seems to be through open access points. Any access point where you don't have to enter an encryption key is "open" and all unencrypted traffic can be trivially intercepted. This is one reason why VPN is used.
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Originally Posted by deepkid
Who the heck owns a cell phone and isn't *already* camped out near an outlet?
For ordinary phones, this is unnecessary. My previous phone only needed to be charged once a week, my current one, about twice a week. When you have all this functionality with respect to audio, video, internet and phone, with a larger screen, then I think it's a valid concern. We'll see how well Apple's stated run times stack up with real use. If it's honest and their testing reflects settings typical owners will use, then it could be very good.
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Originally Posted by jrepici
I never take my battery out of my Blackberry, I just plug it in. The only time I take it out is when it crashes and I have to reset it.
Do the videos cover how to reset an iPhone? I owned an iPod that locked up and refused to reset, and I had a couple that took as many as five tries to reset, because of a lock-up bug in the 4th Gen ipods. Not having a real reset button and relying on the processor to honor a reset when it has crashed seems a little silly.
Whoever wrote this, you obviously know very little about iTunes. Seeing as they sell an entire song for $.99, I doubt that Steve Jobs would let anyone more than double that price for a 7 second ringtone. Also, if anyone has been keeping up with the demos, they would realize that there is clearly a "Ringtones" tab in the iTunes interface. I for one could not be more excited about Friday and there is nothing that will stop me from getting my iPhone.
wow this guys sounds determined. i dont know if i wanna stand in line with him. lol i will in fact be in line though. anyone else in the san antonio tx area? the more of you that say no the happier i am. lol
It's harder to find than you might think, except in limited areas.
It's also only a mobile technology in that you can use it outside the home or office.
But, you can't walk down the streets while on a call, or be in a car, on the highway. That's true mobile.
That would be a good point if iPhone had no other way of getting on the Internet. EDGE may be slower, but it still works, and is truly mobile.
So 80% of the time, when I'm home, in my office, or at a hotspot, I use the fast and free WiFi. The other 20% I use EDGE. Not a perfect solution, but better than you are making it sound.
I'm sure at this point Verizon and Sprint are wishing they would have considered requesting a device from Apple rather than refusing to synergize. I have been a customer of both Verizon and Cingular. The only reason I switched to Verizon was because my employer paid for the plan. Not the case anymore...switching back!
i agree edge is not terribly slow especially if its the closest thing you have to internet on a road trip or out somewhere that you dont have a computer much less highspeed internet like my ranch.
I'd like to read what they'd be saying if the iPhone was coming out on their network. They'd turn around 180 degrees and be claiming it's the best phone in the world.
Exactly!
I also suspect the day will come when the guy at Verizon that told Steve Jobs to take a hike will be well known as the biggest idiot in Phone history. Kind of on par with the record labels that refused to sign the Beatles.
Not that I totally disagree with you but the interface does bring along some functionality such as seamless integration of applications, multitasking elegance, and better contact management, conference calling etc. Although you may be able to do much of the same things on Windows Mobile, it is so difficult to remember/figure out that hardly anyone uses those capabilities.
No product is simply the sum of its features. You have to factor in the sexy.
I've used a lot of smart phones over the past few years, and the one thing none of them would be described as is sexy. The user experience is worth at least twice the list of functions. And right now, all indications are that the iPhone user experience is going to be a major slam dunk.
The iPhone is not the new Treo or Blackberry. That's thinking too small. The iPhone is the new RAZR, which sold multiple times more units than all smartphones combined, despite lacking most of these "functions" and costing $499 at launch.
The top rate is 236Kps, but most networks hold it to 135Kps.
As ATT is upgrading the EDGE network to double those speeds they have, I'm assuming that they are going to 236 from 135.
While no wireless tech works at rated speed (usually at half, sometimes worse), one won't get close to that actual rate most of the time, that's true for 3G and WiFi as well.
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Page 3 of the Verizon document says that the iPhone doesn't have ring-tones!
Damn, it must be a bitch having a phone that you have to stare at for the visual cue that someone is calling. A lot of missed calls, I'd assume.
What a bunch of pansies.
-Clive
What missed calls?
You're just have to keep the phone screen in front of you while you walk down the street.
Don't worry though, I've heard that some of those accessories that are out before the iPhone is in the stores are neck braces to hold the phone in front of you, so you can use your hands to hold your other things, such as your briefcase.
There is also a heads-up display for your car.
That's what I'm going to tell them....
Just as soon as that 2 year contract is up...........
Thanks.
Nothing on the iPhone that isn't already offered on WM phones, besides visual voicemail. I think companies will try to capture the interface of the iphone, but as far as functionality, the iPhone is lagging.
Not that I totally disagree with you but the interface does bring along some functionality such as seamless integration of applications, multitasking elegance, and better contact management, conference calling etc. Although you may be able to do much of the same things on Windows Mobile, it is so difficult to remember/figure out that hardly anyone uses those capabilities.
And I'm sure Cingular will be more than happy to sell you a 7 second ringtone for 1.99 through their Tones service!
Whoever wrote this, you obviously know very little about iTunes. Seeing as they sell an entire song for $.99, I doubt that Steve Jobs would let anyone more than double that price for a 7 second ringtone. Also, if anyone has been keeping up with the demos, they would realize that there is clearly a "Ringtones" tab in the iTunes interface. I for one could not be more excited about Friday and there is nothing that will stop me from getting my iPhone.
I don't think you can, becase it says minimum contract requirement of 2 years, but my question is this. Would it be possible to convert my pay as you go plan to the iphone and then add a 2 year data plan?
Thanks.
If you do pay as you go, then you do not have a contract or plan. At&t will most likely require you to stop doing pay as you go and sign a two year contract. But according to the recent articles on here and the activation demo on At&t's website, you should be able to carry over any current phone number from any network.
If it's here, we'll know about it.
If it's not, then it doesn't exist at this time.
Not that tough.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...als/iPhone.jsp
So I guess all of those "Business People" using Wi-Fi with their laptops this whole time have been doing so with little or no security. Interesting . . . . .
WiFi security has always been a little dubious, but most use seems to be through open access points. Any access point where you don't have to enter an encryption key is "open" and all unencrypted traffic can be trivially intercepted. This is one reason why VPN is used.
Who the heck owns a cell phone and isn't *already* camped out near an outlet?
For ordinary phones, this is unnecessary. My previous phone only needed to be charged once a week, my current one, about twice a week. When you have all this functionality with respect to audio, video, internet and phone, with a larger screen, then I think it's a valid concern. We'll see how well Apple's stated run times stack up with real use. If it's honest and their testing reflects settings typical owners will use, then it could be very good.
I never take my battery out of my Blackberry, I just plug it in. The only time I take it out is when it crashes and I have to reset it.
Do the videos cover how to reset an iPhone? I owned an iPod that locked up and refused to reset, and I had a couple that took as many as five tries to reset, because of a lock-up bug in the 4th Gen ipods. Not having a real reset button and relying on the processor to honor a reset when it has crashed seems a little silly.
What they say about WiFi is correct.
It's harder to find than you might think, except in limited areas.
It's also only a mobile technology in that you can use it outside the home or office.
But, you can't walk down the streets while on a call, or be in a car, on the highway. That's true mobile.
IMHO, solution is 3G
Whoever wrote this, you obviously know very little about iTunes. Seeing as they sell an entire song for $.99, I doubt that Steve Jobs would let anyone more than double that price for a 7 second ringtone. Also, if anyone has been keeping up with the demos, they would realize that there is clearly a "Ringtones" tab in the iTunes interface. I for one could not be more excited about Friday and there is nothing that will stop me from getting my iPhone.
wow this guys sounds determined. i dont know if i wanna stand in line with him. lol
What they say about WiFi is correct.
It's harder to find than you might think, except in limited areas.
It's also only a mobile technology in that you can use it outside the home or office.
But, you can't walk down the streets while on a call, or be in a car, on the highway. That's true mobile.
That would be a good point if iPhone had no other way of getting on the Internet. EDGE may be slower, but it still works, and is truly mobile.
So 80% of the time, when I'm home, in my office, or at a hotspot, I use the fast and free WiFi. The other 20% I use EDGE. Not a perfect solution, but better than you are making it sound.
Maybe some type of force quit built in.
So exactly like the iPod then. It has worked flawlessly on the 2-3 times in the entire lifetime of my iPod where it has locked up.
I'd like to read what they'd be saying if the iPhone was coming out on their network. They'd turn around 180 degrees and be claiming it's the best phone in the world.
Exactly!
I also suspect the day will come when the guy at Verizon that told Steve Jobs to take a hike will be well known as the biggest idiot in Phone history. Kind of on par with the record labels that refused to sign the Beatles.
Not that I totally disagree with you but the interface does bring along some functionality such as seamless integration of applications, multitasking elegance, and better contact management, conference calling etc. Although you may be able to do much of the same things on Windows Mobile, it is so difficult to remember/figure out that hardly anyone uses those capabilities.
No product is simply the sum of its features. You have to factor in the sexy.
I've used a lot of smart phones over the past few years, and the one thing none of them would be described as is sexy. The user experience is worth at least twice the list of functions. And right now, all indications are that the iPhone user experience is going to be a major slam dunk.
The iPhone is not the new Treo or Blackberry. That's thinking too small. The iPhone is the new RAZR, which sold multiple times more units than all smartphones combined, despite lacking most of these "functions" and costing $499 at launch.
Batteries hold less charge as time goes by, right? Out of curiosity, anyone know what a user going to do if he had to replace the battery eventually?
My iPods are 4 and 5 years old and still going strong ... I assume iPhone uses even more advanced technology so I would not worry
IMHO, solution is 3G
Yup!
But, I just read the specs for EDGE.
The top rate is 236Kps, but most networks hold it to 135Kps.
As ATT is upgrading the EDGE network to double those speeds they have, I'm assuming that they are going to 236 from 135.
While no wireless tech works at rated speed (usually at half, sometimes worse), one won't get close to that actual rate most of the time, that's true for 3G and WiFi as well.
So, it may not be too bad.