10.2 screenshots... maybe
Download the .zip file about halfway down this page.
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2024784~root=macdsl~mode=flat"; target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2024784~root=macdsl~mode=flat</a>;
They look okay to me, but I'm a but skeptical on the Black-on-White bit. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2024784~root=macdsl~mode=flat"; target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2024784~root=macdsl~mode=flat</a>;
They look okay to me, but I'm a but skeptical on the Black-on-White bit. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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How would anyone come up with this idea in the first place and why would they show a screen shot of it if it's something that's highly unlikely to be in 10.2.
Those shot look legit...and I'm guessing the reason why DiskCopy's icons look like ass is because Apple won't bother making the icons look prettier in the early dev stages and eventually touch up on them later.
There's absolutely nothing extremely wild about these screenshots so I don't see why these things wouldn't be in 10.2.
I imagine that a preference pane allowing to choose the settings for those spring-loaded folders should exist then (maybe in dock settings ? )
One of the more legit set of screenshots, though.
<strong>What's bothering me is the mention of spring loaded folders and windows : it's a very asked-for feature but the mystery of its integration with the dock & the rest of the GUI remains. Why didn't the author of the pics choose to show that instead of an easily to be photoshoped pane ?
I imagine that a preference pane allowing to choose the settings for those spring-loaded folders should exist then (maybe in dock settings ? )
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What do you mean, "the integration with the Dock etc."? Spring-loaded folders are a Finder function; hence their settings are determined in the Finder preference pane. Unless the Dock now has the ability to navigate into nested directories, spring-loaded folders have no applicability to the Dock. How exactly should this user have demonstrated this to your satisfaction? Make a QT movie?
I have no doubt these screenies are real, which is not to say we will necessarily be seeing these features once 10.2 is actually released. But I'm glad SLFs are making a comeback, if only to stop people complaining about them all the time.
I suppose they wouldn't be that hard to fake, but those features all look believable to me in the sense that they're not far out there or obvious hype. Couple new contextual menu options -- "Open With" is pretty cool -- maybe a new Show Info trick or two...and spring loaded folders, which we all knew was coming sooner or later. The status bar thing was nice too. I miss that sometimes.
No lables apparently.
Don't get the Black on White thing at all though. What is the point of that? That's the only thing that makes me wonder about the validity of the whole thing.
Finder Preferences.jpg:
- Apple doesn't like group boxes, yet the spring-loaded folder options use one.
- I would expect the slider to lack the unnecessary divisions and 'Medium' in the middle under OS X.
Flashing Alerts.jpg
- The wording is horribly awkward.
New Status Bar text.jpg
- Is it really that important to know how many items are selected? I don't know... would you find any use in knowing that information?
White On Black.jpg
- With options of 'showing the screen primarily' as black on white or white on black, how is one supposed to change back to colour?
- Would Steve really let Aqua be uglified like that?
There are good things of course, but I don't like talking about them. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
I like that one guy's signature... "Dude, you're gettin' a CRAY!!"
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- With options of 'showing the screen primarily' as black on white or white on black, how is one supposed to change back to colour?
- Would Steve really let Aqua be uglified like that?
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We've got some dense people here...no offense but you have to realize the context of the 'white on black' feature. Under 'Universal Access'!...ring-a-ling-ding-ding...does that ring a bell? Disabilities? Some people have trouble with bright lighting and would need a white on black feature to ease the strain on their eyes.
White-on-black is not a new theme. It's not meant for you to use if your eye-sight is normal.
They are on D series builds--6D11 or something on Darwin radar. I would expect that nothing at point is frozen, so anything you see could disappear before the final release, and other things could appear. In other words get the code working first. The UI niceties come later.
ps. They are for real.
<a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=002009#000013"; target="_blank">http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=002009#000013</A>;
[ 12-19-2001: Message edited by: cowerd ]</p>
I was only making the point that White on Black looks ugly, but is supposed to be (and is, apparently) coming from a company known to prioritise looks very heavily. Thank you for writing the rest of what I thought for me.
[quote]In other words get the code working first. The UI niceties come later.<hr></blockquote>
I had assumed that it was a more simultaneous process.
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I was only making the point that White on Black looks ugly, but is supposed to be (and is, apparently) coming from a company known to prioritise looks very heavily. Thank you for writing the rest of what I thought for me.
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The white-on-black mode seems to be just a Quartz filter of some kind - notice the white drop shadows. This would be the easy way out, they could also do this with the Appearance Manager and a custom theme (and some work on AppKit's hard coded crap) but that would be more work and there are some apps that use custom routines so it might not be as universal as this.
The normal mode (what we use now) is the black-on-white one.
The complaint about the group box (and Apple encouraging developers to make them go away) is true, but Apple isn't known for always following their own programming guidelines.
<strong>The white-on-black mode seems to be just a Quartz filter of some kind - notice the white drop shadows. This would be the easy way out</strong><hr></blockquote>
See <a href="http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=10688&db=mac"; target="_blank">BlackLight</a>. It simply inverts the gamma (i think) and gives a similar effect.
Way to go Apple! I can't wait for 10.2....if it has performance optimizations then all the better. What a great time to be a Mac user.
Anyway, here is my attempt at 'faking' an OS 10.1.2 screenshot.
-Ybot
Same dimensions it seems, different file size (larger, ie AI re-exported to cover their tracks on a higher jpg compression setting...).
The giveaway is the context menus. Exactly the same disc image is used to show that, gee, I wonder why...
EDIT: One more thing, these screenshots seem to have appeared on DSL Reports first, but AI contends that the pics were taken by themselves. Hmmm.
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: gordy ]</p>