It should be noted that the Finder DOES have READ FTP support. And the FTP locations show up in the new "Shared" section.
Cyberduck is a great free FTP program. Very robust. And did I mention, free?
All this is good and nice, but I did not know that in Leopard ftp is still read only through the Finder. Could anyone provide a reasonable explanation as to why after 6 to 7 years of Mac OS X development Apple still refuses to provide such a basic functionality?
Yes, I know, you always could use the terminal for that and this is what I do in principle. But there are times when this functionality in the Finder would be handy. Needless to say that the vast majority of people would do it through the Finder and not terminal.
So, Apple's refusal to provide such a basic feature is beyond what my poor mind can capture.
You can use the terminal to ssh into your site, but as i'm too lazy to do that all the time, i downloaded filezilla, which probably took me less than 5 seconds to download actually.
Yes, I know, you always could use the terminal for that and this is what I do in principle. But there are times when this functionality in the Finder would be handy. ...
You can add this functionality to the Finder by installing Interarchy.
All this is good and nice, but I did not know that in Leopard ftp is still read only through the Finder. Could anyone provide a reasonable explanation as to why after 6 to 7 years of Mac OS X development Apple still refuses to provide such a basic functionality?
My guess would be, by not providing an upload ftp client, Apple steps on one less 3rd party developer.
You can use the terminal to ssh into your site, but as i'm too lazy to do that all the time, i downloaded filezilla, which probably took me less than 5 seconds to download actually.
Download time yes, but for finding it and launching it
You can use the terminal to ssh into your site, but as i'm too lazy to do that all the time, i downloaded filezilla, which probably took me less than 5 seconds to download actually.
OK, now give me a break. 81.6 MB, when decompressed, for an ftp application? No thanks. Fortunately for some reason it fails to launch on my system, so I got rid immediately of it.
On the other hand, Fugu is a really nice and light application of this kind. And free of course.
But our question is why ftp functionality in the Finder is half-baked. And I am afraid letting independent developers survive is not the answer. We have counter-examples.
OK, now give me a break. 81.6 MB, when decompressed, for an ftp application? No thanks. Fortunately for some reason it fails to launch on my system, so I got rid immediately of it.
On the other hand, Fugu is a really nice and light application of this kind. And free of course.
But our question is why ftp functionality in the Finder is half-baked. And I am afraid letting independent developers survive is not the answer. We have counter-examples.
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Cyberduck is a great free FTP program. Very robust. And did I mention, free?
It should be noted that the Finder DOES have READ FTP support. And the FTP locations show up in the new "Shared" section.
Cyberduck is a great free FTP program. Very robust. And did I mention, free?
All this is good and nice, but I did not know that in Leopard ftp is still read only through the Finder. Could anyone provide a reasonable explanation as to why after 6 to 7 years of Mac OS X development Apple still refuses to provide such a basic functionality?
What's missing: Fancy GUI with Drag n' Drop in the finder.
You can still FTP from the terminal.
Yes, I know, you always could use the terminal for that and this is what I do in principle. But there are times when this functionality in the Finder would be handy. Needless to say that the vast majority of people would do it through the Finder and not terminal.
So, Apple's refusal to provide such a basic feature is beyond what my poor mind can capture.
Correction: ftp, sftp, scp are all built-in.
What's missing: Fancy GUI with Drag n' Drop in the finder.
As in, what's missing is an actual client built in, which OS X should have? You are correct
Probably because the vast majority of users don't need it, and the ones that do can download a program in 5 seconds anyway.
5 seconds?
You can use the terminal to ssh into your site, but as i'm too lazy to do that all the time, i downloaded filezilla, which probably took me less than 5 seconds to download actually.
Yes, I know, you always could use the terminal for that and this is what I do in principle. But there are times when this functionality in the Finder would be handy. ...
You can add this functionality to the Finder by installing Interarchy.
All this is good and nice, but I did not know that in Leopard ftp is still read only through the Finder. Could anyone provide a reasonable explanation as to why after 6 to 7 years of Mac OS X development Apple still refuses to provide such a basic functionality?
My guess would be, by not providing an upload ftp client, Apple steps on one less 3rd party developer.
Took me about 5 seconds.
You can use the terminal to ssh into your site, but as i'm too lazy to do that all the time, i downloaded filezilla, which probably took me less than 5 seconds to download actually.
Download time yes, but for finding it and launching it
Took me about 5 seconds.
You can use the terminal to ssh into your site, but as i'm too lazy to do that all the time, i downloaded filezilla, which probably took me less than 5 seconds to download actually.
OK, now give me a break. 81.6 MB, when decompressed, for an ftp application?
On the other hand, Fugu is a really nice and light application of this kind. And free of course.
But our question is why ftp functionality in the Finder is half-baked. And I am afraid letting independent developers survive is not the answer. We have counter-examples.
OK, now give me a break. 81.6 MB, when decompressed, for an ftp application?
On the other hand, Fugu is a really nice and light application of this kind. And free of course.
But our question is why ftp functionality in the Finder is half-baked. And I am afraid letting independent developers survive is not the answer. We have counter-examples.
Or cyberduck, also free.
Or cyberduck, also free.
Yes, there are some nice ftp clients for Mac OS X out there. I picked up Fugu as an example, but this was not clear in my message.
FTP Uploading should be in the Finder. IMHO.
I don't know. While Windows has this, its really not very good at all. Most people end up just getting a real client.
My guess would be, by not providing an upload ftp client, Apple steps on one less 3rd party developer.
My thoughts exactly. Why does Apple have to provide everything? Why not allow other talented developers step up to the plate?