My thoughts exactly. Why does Apple have to provide everything? Why not allow other talented developers step up to the plate?
Why!? Because it's already there! What would it take, a few guys coding for two days to implement!? It's already half there. It's really annoying. I don't need a "real client". I'd just like to be be able to upload, in Finder.
As in, what's missing is an actual client built in, which OS X should have? You are correct
Of course, all of those command line tools are *real clients*, and they are *built-in*. You'd have to go out of your way to end up with a version of Darwin/OS X that doesn't include them.
Of course, all of those command line tools are *real clients*, and they are *built-in*. ..... what's missing is integration into the GUI.
Okay, sure...."only" the GUI is missing. But what the hell is OS X if not a GUI built on a load of *real* command line apps.
...and anyway, real or not, when is the last time you copied a file using the "real" command...drag and drop is easier, faster, and (most of the time) more efficient...so it would be with ftp as well...which is why most people who have to use ftp all the time (including myself) end up downloading a client...
I recommend Yummy FTP by the way...despite the horrific name, its a great client....not free though...but worth the price (just try autoroute)...
as for no ftp support in finder...i would think it has more to do with some sort of license or other agreement apple has with one company or another...
Those are definitely read, and if they get enough heat, may do something about it. Same goes for any other nit users have with Apple products, the more users complain about feature X, the more likely it is to get some attention.
Why!? Because it's already there! What would it take, a few guys coding for two days to implement!? It's already half there. It's really annoying. I don't need a "real client". I'd just like to be be able to upload, in Finder.
Couple days - right. Its probably a good 3-4 month job. Why? Because FTP works very differently than a real file system does. So many assumptions in the Finder, many behaviors would need to be tweaked and modified throughout the entire chain of the Finder.
Yes, Apple *could* do it, but its not simple. And it probably would suck. Just like FTP in Windows Explorer sucks so bad it'd be better if it simply wasn't there. Aha - maybe that's why its not in Finder.
You can also copy, delete, concatenate, search, etc from the Terminal app. So why did Apple bother building that functionality into the Finder also ???
Not having such basic functionality in the Finder is odd. Apple has built it into iLife apps (but only works with .mac/.me servers) so it's obviously not an impossible thing to do
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My thoughts exactly. Why does Apple have to provide everything? Why not allow other talented developers step up to the plate?
Why!? Because it's already there! What would it take, a few guys coding for two days to implement!? It's already half there. It's really annoying. I don't need a "real client". I'd just like to be be able to upload, in Finder.
My guess would be, by not providing an upload ftp client, Apple steps on one less 3rd party developer.
When has that stopped them?
As in, what's missing is an actual client built in, which OS X should have? You are correct
Of course, all of those command line tools are *real clients*, and they are *built-in*. You'd have to go out of your way to end up with a version of Darwin/OS X that doesn't include them.
What's missing is integration into the GUI.
Enough mincing words for today...
Of course, all of those command line tools are *real clients*, and they are *built-in*. ..... what's missing is integration into the GUI.
Okay, sure...."only" the GUI is missing. But what the hell is OS X if not a GUI built on a load of *real* command line apps.
...and anyway, real or not, when is the last time you copied a file using the "real" command...drag and drop is easier, faster, and (most of the time) more efficient...so it would be with ftp as well...which is why most people who have to use ftp all the time (including myself) end up downloading a client...
I recommend Yummy FTP by the way...despite the horrific name, its a great client....not free though...but worth the price (just try autoroute)...
as for no ftp support in finder...i would think it has more to do with some sort of license or other agreement apple has with one company or another...
This is depressing. Why cant I upload files to a server via the Finder? Why, oh, why! C'mon Apple!
So tell Apple about it, file a bug report!
http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/bugrptform.html
Those are definitely read, and if they get enough heat, may do something about it. Same goes for any other nit users have with Apple products, the more users complain about feature X, the more likely it is to get some attention.
Why!? Because it's already there! What would it take, a few guys coding for two days to implement!? It's already half there. It's really annoying. I don't need a "real client". I'd just like to be be able to upload, in Finder.
Couple days - right. Its probably a good 3-4 month job. Why? Because FTP works very differently than a real file system does. So many assumptions in the Finder, many behaviors would need to be tweaked and modified throughout the entire chain of the Finder.
Yes, Apple *could* do it, but its not simple. And it probably would suck. Just like FTP in Windows Explorer sucks so bad it'd be better if it simply wasn't there. Aha - maybe that's why its not in Finder.
You can still FTP from the terminal.
You can also copy, delete, concatenate, search, etc from the Terminal app. So why did Apple bother building that functionality into the Finder also ???
Not having such basic functionality in the Finder is odd. Apple has built it into iLife apps (but only works with .mac/.me servers) so it's obviously not an impossible thing to do
This is depressing. Why cant I upload files to a server via the Finder? Why, oh, why! C'mon Apple!
I thought you could through the Finder