Hyatt, thanks for coming over and clearing some stuff up for us! I hope we can keep this forum up and running so that we can get up to date info on the project and ideas that hopefully will make Hyatt and his team's job easier.
I am so psyched that you are playing around with the Quartz engine. Every other browser (except OmniWeb and was just informed Mozilla builds) has either decided to forget it exsists or just doesn't want to invest the time it takes to use it properly. I am glad that speed comes first. I want that web page now, now, now, now!
<strong>Every other browser (except OmniWeb ) has either decided to forget it exsists or just doen'y want to invest the time it takes to use it properly.</strong><hr></blockquote>
*sigh* As I pointed out before, the Mozilla people have already been working on getting the Quartz antialiasing to work properly. Take a stroll over to bugzilla and you'll even see some working screenshots of Mozilla with the newer AA scheme.
Help!! I installed Chimera and now whenever I open my Finder window, it's really big and the icons are all over the place. I tried to delete the finder prefs. but it didn't work. Any ideas on how to fix it? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
I know it's a moot point as the browser is not a full time use application. As of now Chimers only uses a generic application icon and I was wondering, do you retain the generic or do you use a custom icon? I use the one you can see on my desktop pic posted on my iDisk homepage.
I have been using Netcaptor on PC for a very long time now (for the tabs) and search every other day for the mac equivalent. This is a great day.
I am currently using Omniweb only, except when Java is needed like when you want to make an iTools account. Apple happily says come back when you have a decent browser.
All I need (apart from the essentials - y'know back button, java, autofill etc) is a good UI. So simple, but the CMD click in OW is the winner for me. If Chimera puts in that kind of equivalent there will be no other browser for me. Heck, for the tabs alone, it will be no other browser for me.
I downloaded that new version today and I couldn't type anything in forums and such. But it has the speed of Mozilla and the rendering beauty of Omniweb.
And why is the word Omniweb being underlined while typing using Omniweb's browser???
<strong>If it is being developed as a "true Cocoa application" as you say, then how come the fonts look like crap and their is no scrool wheel support? And how come we still get the ugly Windows-style and buttons and such? No Aqua?</strong><hr></blockquote>
mac users really don't understand open source or community development
very speedy broswer btw, deffinetly the fastest i've ever used
Hey, it does work to type in text now. Whoopeeee! If the releases continue on a rate that they have been, ( how feasible this is I don't know ) we most of us will probably be using Chimera full time by the end of the year. Or those of us who don't mind a few bugs now and then ( it keeps us guessing and suprised when something pops up ) maybe by the end of the summer. Am I being optimistic? Might be, but I am so excited about this browser that I can't help myself.
Not sure but click and hold down on the mouse on the message field for a few seconds. Then start typing, a few glitches have shown themselves, the entry cursor is not responsive, you don't see it move if you arrow back into to text, or forward. If you need to move the cursor somewhere by mouse, take faith that it is where you want it to be, because it will not appear to be where you want it. One cool thing that if you have logged in using Mozilla before that Chimera will remember and log you in automaticaly. Not perfect but a good step in the right direction. And of couse the obligitory, Submitted using Chimera!
The progress between 0.11 and 0.12 has been phenomenal. It getting to be quite usable, and blindingly fast. I've been using it all morning now with no crashes. The only really annoying bug i've run into so for is that if i click and hold on the scrollbar-down arrow, it won't let me release, and keeps scrolling until i frantically click all over the place
But hey, it's not even a beta, and for that, all i can say is WOW.
At this rate, i'm fully expecting version 0.14 to make me breakfast next week.
<strong>Actually, no, the Mac version and Windows version use two completely separate rendering engines. I think some Microsoft guy addressed this point a long time ago on the MacNN forums.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I didn't mean that the Win32 and Mac versions use the same engine, like the cross platform Mozilla (Gecko) engine.
I just meant that IE on either platform uses it's own proprietary engine, the windows version being much faster than the Mac version.
However, i wouldn't be surprised if some code was shared. It would just seem to be a waste of effort to recode the engine completely. I could be wrong on that, though.
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Hyatt, thanks for coming over and clearing some stuff up for us! I hope we can keep this forum up and running so that we can get up to date info on the project and ideas that hopefully will make Hyatt and his team's job easier.
I am so psyched that you are playing around with the Quartz engine. Every other browser (except OmniWeb and was just informed Mozilla builds) has either decided to forget it exsists or just doesn't want to invest the time it takes to use it properly. I am glad that speed comes first. I want that web page now, now, now, now!
Hope to see you all here again and again.
[ 02-18-2002: Message edited by: Odinn5 ]</p>
<strong>Every other browser (except OmniWeb ) has either decided to forget it exsists or just doen'y want to invest the time it takes to use it properly.</strong><hr></blockquote>
*sigh* As I pointed out before, the Mozilla people have already been working on getting the Quartz antialiasing to work properly. Take a stroll over to bugzilla and you'll even see some working screenshots of Mozilla with the newer AA scheme.
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/odinn5/PhotoAlbum1.html"; target="_blank">Link!</a>
I cannot remember where I found it but it does have a Mozilla like effect.
What do you use if you have one?
<strong> We're well aware that the browser isn't really usable as yet..
Good things come to those who wait.
I hope it will honor the networking settings of Mac OS X some time later, as it offers no way to go beyond our firewall here.
I have been using Netcaptor on PC for a very long time now (for the tabs) and search every other day for the mac equivalent. This is a great day.
I am currently using Omniweb only, except when Java is needed like when you want to make an iTools account. Apple happily says come back when you have a decent browser.
All I need (apart from the essentials - y'know back button, java, autofill etc) is a good UI. So simple, but the CMD click in OW is the winner for me. If Chimera puts in that kind of equivalent there will be no other browser for me. Heck, for the tabs alone, it will be no other browser for me.
And this of course means that we can now write posts using Chimera ... which of course I am doing right now
And why is the word Omniweb being underlined while typing using Omniweb's browser???
<strong>If it is being developed as a "true Cocoa application" as you say, then how come the fonts look like crap and their is no scrool wheel support? And how come we still get the ugly Windows-style and buttons and such? No Aqua?</strong><hr></blockquote>
mac users really don't understand open source or community development
very speedy broswer btw, deffinetly the fastest i've ever used
[ 02-23-2002: Message edited by: janitor ]</p>
Submitted using Chimera. God I love this browser!
Not sure but click and hold down on the mouse on the message field for a few seconds. Then start typing, a few glitches have shown themselves, the entry cursor is not responsive, you don't see it move if you arrow back into to text, or forward. If you need to move the cursor somewhere by mouse, take faith that it is where you want it to be, because it will not appear to be where you want it. One cool thing that if you have logged in using Mozilla before that Chimera will remember and log you in automaticaly. Not perfect but a good step in the right direction. And of couse the obligitory, Submitted using Chimera!
<strong>And why is the word Omniweb being underlined while typing using Omniweb's browser???</strong><hr></blockquote>
OmniWeb uses Mac OS X's built in spell checker - it's not an OmniWeb spell checker.
iBook 600
The progress between 0.11 and 0.12 has been phenomenal. It getting to be quite usable, and blindingly fast. I've been using it all morning now with no crashes. The only really annoying bug i've run into so for is that if i click and hold on the scrollbar-down arrow, it won't let me release, and keeps scrolling until i frantically click all over the place
But hey, it's not even a beta, and for that, all i can say is WOW.
At this rate, i'm fully expecting version 0.14 to make me breakfast next week.
-robo
<strong>Actually, no, the Mac version and Windows version use two completely separate rendering engines. I think some Microsoft guy addressed this point a long time ago on the MacNN forums.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I didn't mean that the Win32 and Mac versions use the same engine, like the cross platform Mozilla (Gecko) engine.
I just meant that IE on either platform uses it's own proprietary engine, the windows version being much faster than the Mac version.
However, i wouldn't be surprised if some code was shared. It would just seem to be a waste of effort to recode the engine completely. I could be wrong on that, though.
-robo