Paradox of paradoxes

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  • Reply 21 of 123
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post




    I also have something to confess and I feel very terrible about this given how much work some of you put into your replies. I feel truly horrible and terrible. I lied.




    Nick you really do have too much time on your hands. You should get out and go walking, clean the car, do something other than play a stupid game like this.



    I don't think the average AI poster here likes to be jacked with like you have done.







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  • Reply 22 of 123
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    I'm glad I stayed out of it.
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  • Reply 23 of 123
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    Sounds like second thoughts about posting private information on the interwebs.



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  • Reply 24 of 123
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    So your victim complex is so profound that you had to post a bunch of made-up stuff on multiple forums just to feed it?



    That is pretty messed up.
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  • Reply 25 of 123
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    I would have just explained the situation to a moderator (regrets about posting personal information on the internet) and politely asked them to delete the thread.
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  • Reply 26 of 123
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,067member
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    Sounds like second thoughts about posting private information on the interwebs.







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  • Reply 27 of 123
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    ....Finally I would say to you that if you are a man, you don?t need to achieve X or accomplish Y to be deserving of love. We give women love and we tell men they must earn love. I?m telling you that you don?t have to earn it, and you just deserve it. You deserve time with your kids, with your family and for yourself. Society sees you as a checkbook and you need to fight that perception. You aren?t a checkbook but a human and thus deserve what all humans deserve.....



    Interesting... society sees me as a checkbook.

    Kinda true, actually. But there are stronger women

    I have encountered and that I like who are willing to

    earn their own way. They usually excercise more or

    are generally slimmer than average weight.
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  • Reply 28 of 123
    edit . . .



    hey ho, who cares?



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  • Reply 29 of 123
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    I'm sure this is all just a continuation of our "thought experiment"



    Trumpt must be furiously taking notes as we speak!
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  • Reply 30 of 123
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    They're giving it to him good at AN.
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  • Reply 31 of 123
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    Yes, and despite his protestations to the contrary, the follow-up post at AN makes it pretty clear (to me) that trumpt's really not sorry at all. Sorry in the "I'm sorry if you're hurt, but this is what I thought I had to do to get what I want" sense rather than the "I've made a serious error in judgment, I won't ever do something like this again, and I regret having done what I did in the first place" actual apology.
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  • Reply 32 of 123
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    You are absolutely right I never said I what I did was an error in judgement. I don't consider it to be such and wouldn't change what I did.



    I find your and Shawn's little bitter tag team replies a tad funny and sad at the same time. Clearly my post caused you to confront something within yourself that you aren't comfortable with and as such you are going well beyond expressing yourself. Flounder didn't even share or reply and here you are comdemning over multiple posts. I suppose you are the unvictimized victim.



    Clearly you both have issues with seeing males as non-controlling, non-oppressors, or whatever other load of crap you probably have paid good money to learn in college. There really can't be any other good reason for both of you harboring the level of animosity you have about my non-problem. Others indicated they thought they had shared personal informtion although getting a haircut, going to a spa or conference or whatever really isn't deep personal information but regardless I apologized for what they felt about their sharing.



    You two as far as I can see have shared nothing and harbor an awful lot of anger. So clearly this made you discover something about yourself and you don't like what you see. I'm not going to apologize for that or take it back. You can live with it.
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  • Reply 33 of 123
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    Trumpt, I didn't do a whole lot more than skim your initial and "gotcha" postings, and if you think I put any thought into whatever male/female control/attitudes, or whatever the hell it was you were "investigating" (and what that was is wholly unclear) then you are sadly mistaken. I haven't considered it enough to have any opinion on your theories (whatever it is they may be).



    What offends me, as someone with a degree in epidemiology, is the whole bizzarre concoction you've made under the guise of conducting an "experiment"



    If you are so interested in your "research" I would suggest



    1. Getting the appropriate degree that would teach you how to, or at the very least doing several months worth of reading on your own, so you can

    A. Have a clue of how to do research in an ethical manner

    B. Have a clue of how to do research in a scientifically rigorous manner



    2. Apply #1, and go and do some apropriate research, write it up, and post it here. I'm sure we'll all be happy to peruse it.
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  • Reply 34 of 123
    Nick. You really, really need to go on a weekend retreat called Men Together: We Are Warriors in a sequoia forest somewhere. Get some Iron John. You live in California, right? Go on one. Learn to take some responsibility, dude. Seriously. Your Warrior needs to have a pow-wow with your Lover.



    You painted a picture of two really charmless, unsympathetic people who can't compromise or don't love each other enough to indulge each-other's foolishnesses anymore. I don't really care if it was a thought experiment or not, it says far more about your own personal insecurities and experience than it does about gender roles in society, at least in my experience.



    Send some PMs to all the AppleNova people whose generosity you piddled all over and stay here starting threads saying 'X is Evil' couched in terms that let you deny responsibility for the suggestion.



    And go on a course where men can learn how to be men. Take it on the chin.
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  • Reply 35 of 123
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Enjoy being offended about that which you didn't read and haven't considered.
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  • Reply 36 of 123
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Enjoy being offended about that which you didn't read and haven't considered.



    I am offended by your process. The content is irrelevant.
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  • Reply 37 of 123
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Oh then enjoy bring offended about a process which you didn't read and haven't considered.



    I think you are right. That reads much better.
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  • Reply 38 of 123
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Enjoy being offended about that which you didn't read and haven't considered.



    I read it, carefully, and began to write a response to it.



    I decided not to post my response (actually, I gave up pretty quickly), even though it was encouraging and cheekily 'sexist', because I don't know you, or your hypothetical wife, and it's really unguessable what goes on behind closed doors, I've never been married and my advice would have been internet nonsense, and not really useful. It was along the lines of 'compromise and selective indulgence save relationships.'



    Me, I'm pretty pissed off because I thought you were being honest and I thought about you sort of kindly for a day, and now I know you were beating your men are victims hobbyhorse again. It's pretty lame.
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  • Reply 39 of 123
    fellowshipfellowship Posts: 5,038member
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    Originally Posted by Hassan i Sabbah View Post




    Me, I'm pretty pissed off because I thought you were being honest and I thought about you sort of kindly for a day, and now I know you were beating your men are victims hobbyhorse again. It's pretty lame.



    I was irritated with this game as well. Why? First of all my sister is having problems in her marriage and I have been there for her and it takes a toll on me as well being family and all. Some of my neighbors are having money issues and I have tried to encourage them during their hard times (their money problems are due to medical costs). Then to see Nick having "stuff" going on I wanted to extend to him my friendship in time of need also.



    For the rug to be jerked out and Nick saying.... I lied to you all



    It pissed me off. Being a Christian I forgive Nick right away but my goodness I hope Nick does not do this kind of stuff in the future. It is not cool to jerk around people in some kind of trick.



    And Nick don't get on Shawn or any other posters here as if this is about some kind of fault on their behalf. This entire thread is your doing Nick. OWN that and move on.



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  • Reply 40 of 123
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Oh then enjoy bring offended about a process which you didn't read and haven't considered.



    I think you are right. That reads much better.



    The process was so unethical, scientifically worthless and just plain stupid that a cursory reading was all that was required.
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