Oh, and I'm sure the Final Cut & Logic codebase was tiny in comparison
Of course not but you were suggesting merging iweb and Dreamweaver, which are completely foreign codebases. I was saying to get rid of Express in favor of Final Cut Pro and merely customize it to allow interface layouts targeted to users with varying levels of experience and just charge the price of the consumer version. This would make it more popular in schools and pretty much cement Apple's software and hardware in education as well as in the prosumer market where Apple's hardware prices are higher than PC alternatives.
Of course not but you were suggesting merging iweb and Dreamweaver, which are completely foreign codebases. I was saying to get rid of Express in favor of Final Cut Pro and merely customize it to allow interface layouts targeted to users with varying levels of experience and just charge the price of the consumer version. This would make it more popular in schools and pretty much cement Apple's software and hardware in education as well as in the prosumer market where Apple's hardware prices are higher than PC alternatives.
Yea, I getchya, and I agree.
However, I meant more of using Dreamweaver technology to make a better iWeb. Consumer version (iWeb) and Pro (Dreamweaver). Perhaps replacing iWeb entirely with a kind of stripped down, easy to use, consumer version of Dreamweaver.
I think that Adobe would be a perfect fit in the Apple Pro part of the business. It would completely cement them as the go-to company for anything Pro or Creative (its almost there anyways). Windows would be more of an afterthought.
Just one more step on the transition from Pros and semi-pros to teenagers. Look, Jobs has done a lot of good things and given us direction, but losing core business because Jobs got bored is going to be a huge blow to Apple and the Mac in the long run. If they want to do anything, how about a spinning off a brand for business and professional users. It can worry solely about those business while Apple worries about consumer electronics and pretty looking consumer computers.
Just one more step on the transition from Pros and semi-pros to teenagers. Look, Jobs has done a lot of good things and given us direction, but losing core business because Jobs got bored is going to be a huge blow to Apple and the Mac in the long run. If they want to do anything, how about a spinning off a brand for business and professional users. It can worry solely about those business while Apple worries about consumer electronics and pretty looking consumer computers.
Nah, disagree totally. How would a spin-off help? Why not just reinforce the brand you already have, which already has a strong brand image amongst both consumers and pros?
You want business software, fine. But why spin off a brand for that? no need for it.
Excuse me - FileMaker is now, and has for long been, the best selling database software - world wide. There are probably more installed versions of FileMaker Pro than of MySQL ... and according to IDC more versions of Filemaker Pro in actual use than of Access(bundled with Office)!!!
And FileMakcer Inc. has made mony from quarter to quarter from year to year and there developer community is strong and growing. And there are developer conferences world wide and just in a few weeks the annual US Devcon will take place in Phoenix.
Excuse me - FileMaker is now, and has for long been, the best selling database software - world wide. There are probably more installed versions of FileMaker Pro than of MySQL ... and according to IDC more versions of Filemaker Pro in actual use than of Access(bundled with Office)!!!
And FileMakcer Inc. has made mony from quarter to quarter from year to year and there developer community is strong and growing. And there are developer conferences world wide and just in a few weeks the annual US Devcon will take place in Phoenix.
MySQL is much more widely used as a database because of it's use on the web.
MySQL is much more widely used as a database because of it's use on the web.
Huh? FileMaker is the most popular database on the Mac and the second most popular database on Windows. What makes you think that it is not used on the Web?
Excuse me - FileMaker is now, and has for long been, the best selling database software - world wide. There are probably more installed versions of FileMaker Pro than of MySQL ... and according to IDC more versions of Filemaker Pro in actual use than of Access(bundled with Office)!!!
And FileMakcer Inc. has made mony from quarter to quarter from year to year and there developer community is strong and growing. And there are developer conferences world wide and just in a few weeks the annual US Devcon will take place in Phoenix.
It's true that FM is a good database, but it's right there with Adobe and Microsoft in adopting Mac conventions despite being owned by Apple. Unbelievably, it took forever to get scroll wheel support in the app.
The interface is old and we've been waiting for years to get integration with Address Book and iCal.
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Huh? FileMaker is the most popular database on the Mac and the second most popular database on Windows. What makes you think that it is not used on the Web?
MySQL is far more common on the web. It's not even close. Filemaker was the leader in the early days of the Net, and then they removed web support from the basic version and into the $1000. Developer edition. With that move Filemaker became an also-ran on the Net. And it still is.
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Oh, and I'm sure the Final Cut & Logic codebase was tiny in comparison
Of course not but you were suggesting merging iweb and Dreamweaver, which are completely foreign codebases. I was saying to get rid of Express in favor of Final Cut Pro and merely customize it to allow interface layouts targeted to users with varying levels of experience and just charge the price of the consumer version. This would make it more popular in schools and pretty much cement Apple's software and hardware in education as well as in the prosumer market where Apple's hardware prices are higher than PC alternatives.
Or maybe that's what it's supposed to be??? Pretty ambiguous if you ask me!
Of course not but you were suggesting merging iweb and Dreamweaver, which are completely foreign codebases. I was saying to get rid of Express in favor of Final Cut Pro and merely customize it to allow interface layouts targeted to users with varying levels of experience and just charge the price of the consumer version. This would make it more popular in schools and pretty much cement Apple's software and hardware in education as well as in the prosumer market where Apple's hardware prices are higher than PC alternatives.
Yea, I getchya, and I agree.
However, I meant more of using Dreamweaver technology to make a better iWeb. Consumer version (iWeb) and Pro (Dreamweaver). Perhaps replacing iWeb entirely with a kind of stripped down, easy to use, consumer version of Dreamweaver.
I think that Adobe would be a perfect fit in the Apple Pro part of the business. It would completely cement them as the go-to company for anything Pro or Creative (its almost there anyways). Windows would be more of an afterthought.
More like buying Adobe and making their Pro apps way better.
Market Cap of 19.73B. If MS buys Adobe I'll be fit to cry.
Just one more step on the transition from Pros and semi-pros to teenagers. Look, Jobs has done a lot of good things and given us direction, but losing core business because Jobs got bored is going to be a huge blow to Apple and the Mac in the long run. If they want to do anything, how about a spinning off a brand for business and professional users. It can worry solely about those business while Apple worries about consumer electronics and pretty looking consumer computers.
Nah, disagree totally. How would a spin-off help? Why not just reinforce the brand you already have, which already has a strong brand image amongst both consumers and pros?
You want business software, fine. But why spin off a brand for that? no need for it.
Please don't say things like that. Even as a joke.
Filemaker isn't exactly a shining example of how to market Pro software.
In other news, Apple seems interested in keeping their Pro apps updated.
Excuse me - FileMaker is now, and has for long been, the best selling database software - world wide. There are probably more installed versions of FileMaker Pro than of MySQL ... and according to IDC more versions of Filemaker Pro in actual use than of Access(bundled with Office)!!!
And FileMakcer Inc. has made mony from quarter to quarter from year to year and there developer community is strong and growing. And there are developer conferences world wide and just in a few weeks the annual US Devcon will take place in Phoenix.
Excuse me - FileMaker is now, and has for long been, the best selling database software - world wide. There are probably more installed versions of FileMaker Pro than of MySQL ... and according to IDC more versions of Filemaker Pro in actual use than of Access(bundled with Office)!!!
And FileMakcer Inc. has made mony from quarter to quarter from year to year and there developer community is strong and growing. And there are developer conferences world wide and just in a few weeks the annual US Devcon will take place in Phoenix.
MySQL is much more widely used as a database because of it's use on the web.
MySQL is much more widely used as a database because of it's use on the web.
Huh? FileMaker is the most popular database on the Mac and the second most popular database on Windows. What makes you think that it is not used on the Web?
Excuse me - FileMaker is now, and has for long been, the best selling database software - world wide. There are probably more installed versions of FileMaker Pro than of MySQL ... and according to IDC more versions of Filemaker Pro in actual use than of Access(bundled with Office)!!!
And FileMakcer Inc. has made mony from quarter to quarter from year to year and there developer community is strong and growing. And there are developer conferences world wide and just in a few weeks the annual US Devcon will take place in Phoenix.
It's true that FM is a good database, but it's right there with Adobe and Microsoft in adopting Mac conventions despite being owned by Apple. Unbelievably, it took forever to get scroll wheel support in the app.
The interface is old and we've been waiting for years to get integration with Address Book and iCal.
Huh? FileMaker is the most popular database on the Mac and the second most popular database on Windows. What makes you think that it is not used on the Web?
MySQL is far more common on the web. It's not even close. Filemaker was the leader in the early days of the Net, and then they removed web support from the basic version and into the $1000. Developer edition. With that move Filemaker became an also-ran on the Net. And it still is.