Another part of it may be that a lot of ppl ran their PS2s vertically with no problems, so they think its okay to do it with the 360 too.
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Vertical use is not the problem. It's likely that there were a very large bunch of defective drives. The console is shown as being used vertically, as is the Wii, the PS3, and the iMac.
Vertical use is not the problem. It's likely that there were a very large bunch of defective drives. The console is shown as being used vertically, as is the Wii, the PS3, and the iMac.
Difference in the iMac being that it's not a sliding tray mechanism that comes out. That's the catch for me. The iMac has that nice narrow groove on the side like macbooks do.
Personally, I never like the idea of putting sliding trays sideways. I don't care what any manufacturer shows in the pics either. There's that lag before the disc is engaged and when it's horizontal at least gravity helps keep the disc balanced well on the tray. Call me anal retentive but I've never had a scratched disc in any machine that has one. Computer or Xbox.
I don't think it's the position but when you tilt from one to the other while the disc is spinning is the problem. That seems kind of bizarre to me, I've never thought to rotate a game system while it's in use.
I'm sure plenty of kids are doing that. Course they would never tell mommie that.
What cracks me up is watching everybody at Xbox 360 LAN parties arrive jostling their Xboxes with the games in there. That's why I never bring my copies. Let people screw up their own discs if they don't care.
Difference in the iMac being that it's not a sliding tray mechanism that comes out. That's the catch for me. The iMac has that nice narrow groove on the side like macbooks do. That's the catch for me.
Personally, I never like the idea of putting sliding trays sideways. I don't care what any manufacturer shows in the pics either. There's that lag before the disc is engaged and when it's horizontal at least gravity helps keep the disc balanced well on the tray. Call me anal retentive but I've never had a scratched disc in any machine that has one. Computer or Xbox.
I've had many Cd and DVD mechanisms that have those small sliding catches around the tray that can be slipped over the disk. Most trays still have the four spaces for them. The specs I've seen from OEM drives have stated that vetical use is indicated.
If the drive MS uses, or used, should have not been operated that way, always possible, as MS has shown that their design for the 360 is seriously flawed in other ways as well, then it's still the fault of MS for showing the 360 in a vertical position most all the time.
You can't blame the users for doing what the manufacturer says they can do. It's still a design flaw.
I've had many Cd and DVD mechanisms that have those small sliding catches around the tray that can be slipped over the disk. Most trays still have the four spaces for them. The specs I've seen from OEM drives have stated that vetical use is indicated.
If the drive MS uses, or used, should have not been operated that way, always possible, as MS has shown that their design for the 360 is seriously flawed in other ways as well, then it's still the fault of MS for showing the 360 in a vertical position most all the time.
You can't blame the users for doing what the manufacturer says they can do. It's still a design flaw.
Like I said, I still wouldn't do it. I don't care what anyone says. So I wouldn't know if it's a design flaw nor would I discover if anything else had a design flaw in the tray mechanism.
Like I said, I still wouldn't do it. I don't care what anyone says. So I wouldn't know if it's a design flaw nor would I discover if anything else had a design flaw in the tray mechanism.
I'm not criticizing your use. I'm just saying that if the drive in the 360 shouldn't be used that way for some reason, and MS is promoting using it that way, then their design is flawed. They should have made sure the drive they bought was capable of being used in that manner.
I'm not criticizing your use. I'm just saying that if the drive in the 360 shouldn't be used that way for some reason, and MS is promoting using it that way, then their design is flawed. They should have made sure the drive they bought was capable of being used in that manner.
I am telling you that I have played hundreds of disks with my 360 vertical, and they are all pristine and perfect still. The tray has a little lip on the bottom that holds the disk from falling out.
The 360 is a crap machine, noisy, poorly designed, expensive when you add all the add on crap like the wireless dongle, hot, and it self destructs by de-soldering its own processor, but the drive is fine.
I am telling you that I have played hundreds of disks with my 360 vertical, and they are all pristine and perfect still. The tray has a little lip on the bottom that holds the disk from falling out.
You might have noticed in my previous posts, that I'm the one saying that vertical use should be ok, and that the problems of scratched disks shouldn't be from that.
I'm responding to 4metta, who IS saying the machine shouldn't be used that way.
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The 360 is a crap machine, noisy, poorly designed, expensive when you add all the add on crap like the wireless dongle, hot, and it self destructs by de-soldering its own processor, but the drive is fine.
There have been too many reports, for too long a time, about scratched disks, for something not to have been wrong, at least in a certain number of machines. It doesn't mean that all machines were affected.
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Another part of it may be that a lot of ppl ran their PS2s vertically with no problems, so they think its okay to do it with the 360 too.
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Vertical use is not the problem. It's likely that there were a very large bunch of defective drives. The console is shown as being used vertically, as is the Wii, the PS3, and the iMac.
Vertical use is not the problem. It's likely that there were a very large bunch of defective drives. The console is shown as being used vertically, as is the Wii, the PS3, and the iMac.
Difference in the iMac being that it's not a sliding tray mechanism that comes out. That's the catch for me. The iMac has that nice narrow groove on the side like macbooks do.
Personally, I never like the idea of putting sliding trays sideways. I don't care what any manufacturer shows in the pics either. There's that lag before the disc is engaged and when it's horizontal at least gravity helps keep the disc balanced well on the tray. Call me anal retentive but I've never had a scratched disc in any machine that has one. Computer or Xbox.
I don't think it's the position but when you tilt from one to the other while the disc is spinning is the problem. That seems kind of bizarre to me, I've never thought to rotate a game system while it's in use.
I'm sure plenty of kids are doing that. Course they would never tell mommie that.
What cracks me up is watching everybody at Xbox 360 LAN parties arrive jostling their Xboxes with the games in there. That's why I never bring my copies. Let people screw up their own discs if they don't care.
Difference in the iMac being that it's not a sliding tray mechanism that comes out. That's the catch for me. The iMac has that nice narrow groove on the side like macbooks do. That's the catch for me.
Personally, I never like the idea of putting sliding trays sideways. I don't care what any manufacturer shows in the pics either. There's that lag before the disc is engaged and when it's horizontal at least gravity helps keep the disc balanced well on the tray. Call me anal retentive but I've never had a scratched disc in any machine that has one. Computer or Xbox.
I've had many Cd and DVD mechanisms that have those small sliding catches around the tray that can be slipped over the disk. Most trays still have the four spaces for them. The specs I've seen from OEM drives have stated that vetical use is indicated.
If the drive MS uses, or used, should have not been operated that way, always possible, as MS has shown that their design for the 360 is seriously flawed in other ways as well, then it's still the fault of MS for showing the 360 in a vertical position most all the time.
You can't blame the users for doing what the manufacturer says they can do. It's still a design flaw.
I've had many Cd and DVD mechanisms that have those small sliding catches around the tray that can be slipped over the disk. Most trays still have the four spaces for them. The specs I've seen from OEM drives have stated that vetical use is indicated.
If the drive MS uses, or used, should have not been operated that way, always possible, as MS has shown that their design for the 360 is seriously flawed in other ways as well, then it's still the fault of MS for showing the 360 in a vertical position most all the time.
You can't blame the users for doing what the manufacturer says they can do. It's still a design flaw.
Like I said, I still wouldn't do it. I don't care what anyone says. So I wouldn't know if it's a design flaw nor would I discover if anything else had a design flaw in the tray mechanism.
Like I said, I still wouldn't do it. I don't care what anyone says. So I wouldn't know if it's a design flaw nor would I discover if anything else had a design flaw in the tray mechanism.
I'm not criticizing your use. I'm just saying that if the drive in the 360 shouldn't be used that way for some reason, and MS is promoting using it that way, then their design is flawed. They should have made sure the drive they bought was capable of being used in that manner.
I'm not criticizing your use. I'm just saying that if the drive in the 360 shouldn't be used that way for some reason, and MS is promoting using it that way, then their design is flawed. They should have made sure the drive they bought was capable of being used in that manner.
I am telling you that I have played hundreds of disks with my 360 vertical, and they are all pristine and perfect still. The tray has a little lip on the bottom that holds the disk from falling out.
The 360 is a crap machine, noisy, poorly designed, expensive when you add all the add on crap like the wireless dongle, hot, and it self destructs by de-soldering its own processor, but the drive is fine.
I am telling you that I have played hundreds of disks with my 360 vertical, and they are all pristine and perfect still. The tray has a little lip on the bottom that holds the disk from falling out.
You might have noticed in my previous posts, that I'm the one saying that vertical use should be ok, and that the problems of scratched disks shouldn't be from that.
I'm responding to 4metta, who IS saying the machine shouldn't be used that way.
The 360 is a crap machine, noisy, poorly designed, expensive when you add all the add on crap like the wireless dongle, hot, and it self destructs by de-soldering its own processor, but the drive is fine.
There have been too many reports, for too long a time, about scratched disks, for something not to have been wrong, at least in a certain number of machines. It doesn't mean that all machines were affected.
It's alright little fella. You can go home.
It's alright little fella. You can go home.
We need an official spambot rustler for AppleInsider.
Strangely though, I like how these nostalgic posts are dug up.
HD-DVD is long dead, and Xbox360 actually got fixed up.
We need an official spambot rustler for AppleInsider.
I'll do it. I'm here a fair bit.
HD-DVD is long dead
I still use my players (two standalone, one in my Mac Pro) to watch my discs. It's not dead for me.
'Course, I still have two working Laserdisc players that I use for nostalgia purposes, so what do I know.