Well, being that I am or will be a consumer of Blu Ray and not one who actually developed it, any gloating I do will be stupid.
This is true, but the Blu v. Red war has become the nerd equivalent of a major sporting event. I'll bet Marz is passed out at a celebratory kegger right now.
But that's gross revenue, not net. I think Sony is officially breaking even, or even making some money on one of the PS3 models now. Is that right? If they're not then their net revenue on consoles should still be a negative number.
latest news is that they passed 8 million paid for downloads, that might just help in terms of breaking even per console as well??
Unfortunately, it wasn't with a superior product. Just underhanded tactics and ridiculous DRM hassles for consumers. Yay for Big Media and region codes. I look forward to reminding the Blu-Ray boys about their 'victory' in the coming years.
And just for the parting shot:
Even with the win, what kind of fool would buy a standalone BD player before October?
Unfortunately, it wasn't with a superior product. Just underhanded tactics and ridiculous DRM hassles for consumers. Yay for Big Media and region codes. I look forward to reminding the Blu-Ray boys about their 'victory' in the coming years.
And just for the parting shot:
Even with the win, what kind of fool would buy a standalone BD player before October?
While you're at it, you might think about moving this thread to GD, since this isn't a Future Hardware discussion (unless we're talking specifically about its inclusion in the Mac Pro.)
While you're at it, you might think about moving this thread to GD, since this isn't a Future Hardware discussion (unless we're talking specifically about its inclusion in the Mac Pro.)
No no!
I'm waiting for the inevitable 'but HD-DVD bribed people, too' responses.
And then someone will talk about the 360. And then, tangentially, the Wii.
While you're at it, you might think about moving this thread to GD, since this isn't a Future Hardware discussion (unless we're talking specifically about its inclusion in the Mac Pro.)
Neither is the "vs." thread, if you want to be technical about it, since it's now a foregone conclusion that HD DVD drives will never be future hardware in Macs. Feel free to start a "Blu-ray in Macs - When?" thread.
Why do you feel the need to gloat? Do you work for Sony?
Mostly because there were about 2500 posts, mostly driven by HD-DVD fanboys (but also perpetuated by the Blu-ray equivalent). I think most sensible people looked at the facts about a year ago and realized that Blu-Ray (a) enables better products and (b) has a lot more marketing muscle behind it. Having to walk on glass in related matters just to avoid flame wars breaking out was extremely annoying. If anything, we gloat because that BS is OVER.
Mostly because there were about 2500 posts, mostly driven by HD-DVD fanboys (but also perpetuated by the Blu-ray equivalent). I think most sensible people looked at the facts about a year ago and realized that Blu-Ray (a) enables better products and (b) has a lot more marketing muscle behind it. Having to walk on glass in related matters just to avoid flame wars breaking out was extremely annoying. If anything, we gloat because that BS is OVER.
Also, Sony was finally able to pay off the studios to enhance their 'decision making'. Everyone knows this decision was money based.
Mostly because there were about 2500 posts, mostly driven by HD-DVD fanboys (but also perpetuated by the Blu-ray equivalent). I think most sensible people looked at the facts about a year ago and realized that Blu-Ray (a) enables better products and (b) has a lot more marketing muscle behind it. Having to walk on glass in related matters just to avoid flame wars breaking out was extremely annoying. If anything, we gloat because that BS is OVER.
If by "mostly driven by HD-DVD fan boys" you mean "about 50% Marzetta 7 carrying on like a 12 year old girl at a Beatles concert, with another 25% piling on like someone was attacking their mother", then, yeah, I guess.
Otherwise, WTF?
The very fact that SDW sees the need to start a "gloat" thread kind of tells you all you need to know about the tone of that previous thread.
I really don't care. In a way I'm happy the war is over but saddened because this battle pretty much spoke volumes about troubling issues.
1. Keirtsu style partnerships mean more than shipping good product.
2. Consumers value Bigger Better More More rather than maintaining some semblence of rights.
3. Companies still lie like rugs and no one really calls them on it.
4. Small players simply cannot survive in today's "politically infused" Emtertainment market even with a better product.
I find it odd that the term "Consumers have made their choice" was bandied about multiple times by studios yet consumers in this battle had a decided lack of choice which caused most of the frustration.
I'm a little bugged that HD DVD is dying so quickly because Samsung would be crazy to try and deliver their Universal player now but guess I'll take advantage of a closeout HD DVD player as a backup and wait for a Profile 2.0 BD player to be affordable. I have nothing but time.
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Well, being that I am or will be a consumer of Blu Ray and not one who actually developed it, any gloating I do will be stupid.
This is true, but the Blu v. Red war has become the nerd equivalent of a major sporting event. I'll bet Marz is passed out at a celebratory kegger right now.
But that's gross revenue, not net. I think Sony is officially breaking even, or even making some money on one of the PS3 models now. Is that right? If they're not then their net revenue on consoles should still be a negative number.
latest news is that they passed 8 million paid for downloads, that might just help in terms of breaking even per console as well??
Why do you feel the need to gloat? Do you work for Sony?
No, I think it's because the debate has been the longest lived and most annoying on this site.
Unfortunately, it wasn't with a superior product. Just underhanded tactics and ridiculous DRM hassles for consumers. Yay for Big Media and region codes. I look forward to reminding the Blu-Ray boys about their 'victory' in the coming years.
And just for the parting shot:
Even with the win, what kind of fool would buy a standalone BD player before October?
Big Deal. Sony finally won a format war.
Unfortunately, it wasn't with a superior product. Just underhanded tactics and ridiculous DRM hassles for consumers. Yay for Big Media and region codes. I look forward to reminding the Blu-Ray boys about their 'victory' in the coming years.
And just for the parting shot:
Even with the win, what kind of fool would buy a standalone BD player before October?
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha
These threads kill me.
In fact, I think it's time that I close the Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD thread.
While you're at it, you might think about moving this thread to GD, since this isn't a Future Hardware discussion (unless we're talking specifically about its inclusion in the Mac Pro.)
No no!
I'm waiting for the inevitable 'but HD-DVD bribed people, too' responses.
And then someone will talk about the 360. And then, tangentially, the Wii.
Then DVD. Laserdisc. Betamax. Downloads.
Michael Bay.
Profile 2.0.
Microsoft.
Interactivity.
J6P.
etc.
I will move it, though.
Why do you feel the need to gloat? Do you work for Sony?
Naw, it's just the only thing he's been right about in his entire life.
Naw, it's just the only thing he's been right about in his entire life.
While you're at it, you might think about moving this thread to GD, since this isn't a Future Hardware discussion (unless we're talking specifically about its inclusion in the Mac Pro.)
Neither is the "vs." thread, if you want to be technical about it, since it's now a foregone conclusion that HD DVD drives will never be future hardware in Macs. Feel free to start a "Blu-ray in Macs - When?" thread.
Why do you feel the need to gloat? Do you work for Sony?
Mostly because there were about 2500 posts, mostly driven by HD-DVD fanboys (but also perpetuated by the Blu-ray equivalent). I think most sensible people looked at the facts about a year ago and realized that Blu-Ray (a) enables better products and (b) has a lot more marketing muscle behind it. Having to walk on glass in related matters just to avoid flame wars breaking out was extremely annoying. If anything, we gloat because that BS is OVER.
Mostly because there were about 2500 posts, mostly driven by HD-DVD fanboys (but also perpetuated by the Blu-ray equivalent). I think most sensible people looked at the facts about a year ago and realized that Blu-Ray (a) enables better products and (b) has a lot more marketing muscle behind it. Having to walk on glass in related matters just to avoid flame wars breaking out was extremely annoying. If anything, we gloat because that BS is OVER.
Also, Sony was finally able to pay off the studios to enhance their 'decision making'. Everyone knows this decision was money based.
Mostly because there were about 2500 posts, mostly driven by HD-DVD fanboys (but also perpetuated by the Blu-ray equivalent). I think most sensible people looked at the facts about a year ago and realized that Blu-Ray (a) enables better products and (b) has a lot more marketing muscle behind it. Having to walk on glass in related matters just to avoid flame wars breaking out was extremely annoying. If anything, we gloat because that BS is OVER.
If by "mostly driven by HD-DVD fan boys" you mean "about 50% Marzetta 7 carrying on like a 12 year old girl at a Beatles concert, with another 25% piling on like someone was attacking their mother", then, yeah, I guess.
Otherwise, WTF?
The very fact that SDW sees the need to start a "gloat" thread kind of tells you all you need to know about the tone of that previous thread.
I'll bet Marz is passed out at a celebratory kegger right now.
Ok, I apologize in advance but this made me LOL hard.
1. Keirtsu style partnerships mean more than shipping good product.
2. Consumers value Bigger Better More More rather than maintaining some semblence of rights.
3. Companies still lie like rugs and no one really calls them on it.
4. Small players simply cannot survive in today's "politically infused" Emtertainment market even with a better product.
I find it odd that the term "Consumers have made their choice" was bandied about multiple times by studios yet consumers in this battle had a decided lack of choice which caused most of the frustration.
I'm a little bugged that HD DVD is dying so quickly because Samsung would be crazy to try and deliver their Universal player now but guess I'll take advantage of a closeout HD DVD player as a backup and wait for a Profile 2.0 BD player to be affordable. I have nothing but time.
http://www.electronista.com/articles....drops.hd.dvd/
Edit: Nevermind.