iPhone coming to Ireland next month without Visual Voicemail

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  • Reply 21 of 66
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by mxsweb View Post


    In the other hand, they just launch unlimited MySpace or Facebook for $15/month... but they still prevent you to surf any other website.



    Not so much FaceBook, but MySpace is riddled with hyperlinked images. Are those still considered free?
  • Reply 22 of 66
    technotechno Posts: 699member
    As someone from Canada who has been pining for the iPhone to come here, I wonder if Apple is using Ireland as a test market. I am sure that the Canadian carriers are resisting Apple's inssistance on a low rate unlimited data plan because they (the carriers) are making so much money now. Perhaps Apple is using Ireland as a throw-away test to show how compromising the features and having high rates will not work. Because I am sure the Canadian carriers are arguing that it will work.
  • Reply 23 of 66
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    Originally Posted by techno View Post


    Perhaps Apple is using Ireland as a throw-away test to show how compromising the features and having high rates will not work. Because I am sure the Canadian carriers are arguing that it will work.



    If they want to try other throw-away tests here like low pricing for instance then I dare them to. No, I double-dare them.
  • Reply 24 of 66
    Those are some really unattractive plans.



    A few things to keep in mind: The Irish are used to paying for what they use. For example, Irish people who still have a landline pay by the minute to ring the house next door. Ouch. Broadband Internet users are capped for bandwidth use as well.



    The charge for checking your voicemail - when visual voicemail isn't being provided - that's kicking the customer while he's down, I don't care where you're from.



    Then again, the Irish have been bragging about their Celtic Tiger economy for years. Dollar at an all time low against the Euro - let the Irish spend some of the money they've been singing about!
  • Reply 25 of 66
    I'm a little bummed at the lack of visual voice mail



    not to mention the fact that I can't sell the damn thing in my shop its the only phone my customers seem to care about





    oh well
  • Reply 26 of 66
    For someone in Ireland who was perfectly prepared to switch to whatever the iPhone network ended up being, I am quite disappointed...



    To outsiders, I can only say yes: O2 Ireland's package is just as appalling as it seems, and at least some of us are quite aware of it! They are the only carrier that still charges for voicemail, and offer the most expensive minute-for-minute call plans. Barring one recent innovation on the Pre-pay market relating to free text-messaging, they have nothing in their product line that wasn't an unimaginative reaction to competition from the other three networks.



    But 1GB of data - a joke that I can only hope will be unmade in the next 15 days, as it was in the UK - is a whole new exercise in delusion. The one positive possibility is that the large bills people start receiving on April 15th will cause enough of a consumer backlash to get them to multiply that number by 5 or 10.



    To those making the comparison with Canada, I have to point out that though the products are not popular, relatively good value data packages do exist here in Ireland - 10GB of data costing ?20 to ?30, network dependent - which as at least reasonable compared with Rogers... Even O2 themselves offer one.



    Finally, I'd be surprised if Apple decided to use us as a test market - it's a serious profit gamble, as we're known for having one of the highest ARPU (Average Revenue Per User) figures in Europe and the world. Their decision though. There goes the much vaunted global-product-experience-consistency!



    Hacked [US] iPhone on meteor or vodafone it is, and warranty be damned!
  • Reply 27 of 66
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    Originally Posted by freelander51 View Post


    The text for visual voicemail seems rather odd - isn't it ?



    "Visual Voicemail is not currently supported"



    Correct me if I am wrong - but wouldn't proper grammar be



    "Visual voicemail is currently not supported"



    As they said in Casino Royal "Isn't it amazing what you can do with Photoshop ?"



    Maybe that explains the poor data bundle too



    I see no difference between the following statements. They are all grammatically correct and all say the same thing: visual voice is not supported right now.



    "Visual voicemail is not currently supported"

    "Visual voicemail is currently not supported"

    "Visual voicemail currently is not supported"

    "Currently, visual voicemail is not supported"

    "Visual voicemail is not supported, currently"
  • Reply 28 of 66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    A few things to keep in mind: The Irish are used to paying for what they use. For example, Irish people who still have a landline pay by the minute to ring the house next door. Ouch. Broadband Internet users are capped for bandwidth use as well.



    Quite true - being ripped off is pretty much par for the course. Doesn't mean we like it though!



    But on broadband it should be pointed out that most DSL/Wireless/Cable providers cap bandwidth in contracts, but don't actually charge in practise unless you're going completely mad, so the comparison here isn't quite fair. I know reserved rights aren't exactly pleasant things to live with, but in some senses they compare with the likes of the bandwidth shaping that goes on with many US and UK providers.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    Then again, the Irish have been bragging about their Celtic Tiger economy for years. Dollar at an all time low against the Euro - let the Irish spend some of the money they've been singing about!



    You're right. Once I head back to my solid gold house and have a few Martinis from a solid diamond glass I'll probably feel much better.
  • Reply 29 of 66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tdamon View Post


    I see no difference between the following statements. They are all grammatically correct and all say the same thing: visual voice is not supported right now.



    "Visual voicemail is not currently supported"

    "Visual voicemail is currently not supported"

    "Visual voicemail currently is not supported"

    "Currently, visual voicemail is not supported"

    "Visual voicemail is not supported, currently"









    are you done rubbing it in? this was the one feature I was looking forward to the most
  • Reply 30 of 66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by magicgumdrop View Post


    Quite true - being ripped off is pretty much par for the course. Doesn't mean we like it though!



    But on broadband it should be pointed out that most DSL/Wireless/Cable providers cap bandwidth in contracts, but don't actually charge in practise unless you're going completely mad, so the comparison here isn't quite fair. I know reserved rights aren't exactly pleasant things to live with, but in some senses they compare with the likes of the bandwidth shaping that goes on with many US and UK providers.







    You're right. Once I head back to my solid gold house and have a few Martinis from a solid diamond glass I'll probably feel much better.





    FYI the only guy making money in Ireland is the primeminister LOL
  • Reply 31 of 66
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    Originally Posted by iStore View Post


    are you done rubbing it in? this was the one feature I was looking forward to the most



    My mistake mate. I just checked he O2 website, the ad is there. Just that their wording on the small print is sooooo odd. I wont comment on grammar issues anymore and shut up now
  • Reply 32 of 66
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,157member
    1 GB a month is not bad if you have access to wifi. I have just checked my iPhone EDGE Data usage and it is less than 1 GB since I bought mine 7 months ago. However, I have wireless access at home and everywhere I usually go. I mainly use EDGE for auto-checking and downloading emails. You will be missing more by not having visual voicemail though.
  • Reply 33 of 66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by magicgumdrop View Post


    You're right. Once I head back to my solid gold house and have a few Martinis from a solid diamond glass I'll probably feel much better.



    Good one magicgumdrop. It's true though. Celtic Tiger this, Celtic Tiger that. I've never understood where all the money came from. Except that the Irish don't seem to be raped by the taxman as badly come payday anymore.



    I've always been amazed at what Irish teenagers spend on their mobile phones. And how willing parents are to subsidize their habit.



    I used to work in Ireland and saw how quickly so many people became obsessed with mobiles and texting.



    I wouldn't expect many teenagers to give up their meteor plans with unlimited texting.



    gumdrop - stop in your local on the way home and buy everyone a pint. all those swiss bearer bonds must be burning a hole in your pocket.
  • Reply 34 of 66
    Ireland may have most of the HQ's of the big IT companies within Europe but it desperately lags behind the rest of Europe in terms of DSL technology. In a recent report on Prime Time http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0214/primetime.html



    Also Ireland has the second highest number of mobile phone per person just after Finland (land of Nokia) but charges are still high compared to Germany. While 3G technology has been rolled out in Ireland they honest haven't got a clue what to do with it, except charge through the nose. So no surprises about the O2 tariffs.



    It's all down to fat cats controlling the island market which doesn't reflect mainland Europe.
  • Reply 35 of 66
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    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    Good one magicgumdrop. It's true though. Celtic Tiger this, Celtic Tiger that. I've never understood where all the money came from. Except that the Irish don't seem to be raped by the taxman as badly come payday anymore.



    I've always been amazed at what Irish teenagers spend on their mobile phones. And how willing parents are to subsidize their habit.



    I used to work in Ireland and saw how quickly so many people became obsessed with mobiles and texting.



    I wouldn't expect many teenagers to give up their meteor plans with unlimited texting.



    gumdrop - stop in your local on the way home and buy everyone a pint. all those swiss bearer bonds must be burning a hole in your pocket.



    Walshbj trust me all that celtic tiger BS is coming only from the horses mouth I swear Berti Greedy-guts Ahern lives in his own reality distortion field when it comes to the irish economy



    as for the irish kids your quite right the meteor deal "was" something worth doing until recently



    o2 released a very competitive alternative for the prepay market its just a shame their iPhone pricing has garnered such a negative response where as I thought it wasn't to bad at first till I read everyones response here
  • Reply 36 of 66
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    I don't mean to rub it in, but Visual Voicemail was one of those cool features that I quick took for granted. a few months ago I would have thought it was a ho-hum features, but recently I've realized how handy this is.



    I hope O2 resolves this quickly for you micks*.





    * Is that still considered offensive? After all it's a common nickname for Michael, which the term is derived. If it is, is it okay if I say it sense I'm of Irish decent which coincides with acceptable usage of the "N" word.
  • Reply 37 of 66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    I've never understood where all the money came from. Except that the Irish don't seem to be raped by the taxman as badly come payday anymore.




    P-r-o-p-e-r-t-y b-o-o-m (or bubble). Honestly there are people on the outskirts of Dublin whose parents used to be poor farmers, now they are rich property magnates.
  • Reply 38 of 66
    yes but over here in the west if you go for a morgage for a crap little run down dump of a joint they laugh at you and offer a morgage a 10th of the deposite price
  • Reply 39 of 66
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,525member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tdamon View Post


    I see no difference between the following statements. They are all grammatically correct and all say the same thing: visual voice is not supported right now.



    "Visual voicemail is not currently supported"

    "Visual voicemail is currently not supported"

    "Visual voicemail currently is not supported"

    "Currently, visual voicemail is not supported"

    "Visual voicemail is not supported, currently"



    Borat would say

    "visual voicemail is currently supported..............NOT"
  • Reply 40 of 66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iStore View Post


    yes but over here in the west if you go for a morgage for a crap little run down dump of a joint they laugh at you and offer a morgage a 10th of the deposite price



    Unbelievable - even Cavan is soaring
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