I dunno. At $399 the iPhone seems pretty competitive.
As a standalone replacement handset, it is. Problem is, Apple won't allow carriers to subsidize the cost on contracts. I know a lot of people with Blackberries, and none of them (individuals or companies) paid anything for the handsets.
I think the volume is pretty low for listening in anything but a near quiet setting. Sometimes I like to listen to a podcast while I have a long drive. To hear it over the road noise, I have to have the volume at maximum and hold it just a few inches away from my ear. But if you're at home or somewhere where there is not a lot of background noise, it should be OK.
Anyone that thinks Apple will do anything with Exchange that would provide a bad user experience is fooling themselves. I am betting once again, that when you actually see it in operation these pundits and other skeptics here will soil themselves about how good it is.
I am just hoping our IT people will let our exchange server (ES) push to my iPhone. I am betting not. (We are an all PC company and we just recently went with Blackberry which cost a pretty penny).
Even though it is intuitively clear that getting info directly from ES to iphone is more secure than from ES to NOC to Blackberry. That extra step I think, was a pretty big deal in Apples presentation yesterday.
As a standalone replacement handset, it is. Problem is, Apple won't allow carriers to subsidize the cost on contracts. I know a lot of people with Blackberries, and none of them (individuals or companies) paid anything for the handsets.
Are you under the impression that those handsets are "free?"
Are you under the impression that those handsets are "free?"
The point might be that if your work covers the monthly payments and the price of the handset is incorporated in (subsidized by) the monthly payments, then the handset is, for all intents and purposes, free for the user.
I took his post to be saying that he was waiting for the SDK to come out before buying his wife an iPhone. This is supported by his concern about the volume on the iPhone at the end.
Now, why this poster would be waiting for an SDK (and not the actual applications) before purchasing for a third party is an open question. Maybe he just wanted to be sure Apple was serious about 3rd party support before he bought...
Any info in the iPhone volume anyone?
Yes, sorry Bageljoey,I obviously didn't explain myself clearly. All I wanted to be sure by the release of the SDK that Apple was truly opening up the iPhone/iTouch to a broad spectrum of apps before buying an iTouch. Now that I'm more than satisfied with what Apple will be providing, I may go ahead and purchase it now (25th anniversary coming up), knowing that come June or soon after, many apps will be available.
My only reservation is reports that the volume is poor.
Quote - JupiterOne
"I think the volume is pretty low for listening in anything but a near quiet setting. Sometimes I like to listen to a podcast while I have a long drive. To hear it over the road noise, I have to have the volume at maximum and hold it just a few inches away from my ear. But if you're at home or somewhere where there is not a lot of background noise, it should be OK."
Thanks JupiterOne, but the iPhone is different to the Itouch in that respect, you have to have earphones for the iTouch to listen, but I'm not interested in buying one if the volume is poor, as I've read, but this was only one person's review that I have seen. Have not seen anyone else commenting on this so I'm interested to find out.
The point might be that if your work covers the monthly payments and the price of the handset is incorporated in (subsidized by) the monthly payments, then the handset is, for all intents and purposes, free for the user.
Just a guess
But as we all know, that it isn't the case. Much like buying a new car when the salesman says, "Heck, I'll throw in a GPS." Ask him for the cash instead and see what you get. Nothing.
Or better yet, music played on a radio is free.
In the case above, there is a cost for the handset. I'll bet that the carrier or the manufacturer isn't giving it away.
Can someone explain what this means? What is NOC and how does it help the battery life of a phone?
NOC refers to RIM's centralized servers - with RIM - you subscribe to blackberry servers owned by RIM - all email is directed through RIM's servers. If you use outlook active synch - you can push email, calendar, contacts - with out a third party server solution (such as RIM or Goodlink).
The iPhone software developers kit (SDK) introduced by Apple on Thursday is proof the company is determined not to replicate mistakes made during the onset of its Mac platform
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
Someone with real knowledge of the matter will likely give a lot better answer, but I think the basic idea is: with an NOC, if your device is asleep (or out of range), the message gets cached on a server, and when your device is in back on, it can then get its messages gracefully. Without an NOC, the device has to keep a little more power going to some of its chips, continually listening for messages.
I think that's what they're talking about. Anybody out there, feel free to obviate this explanation with a better one
A NOC is a Network Operations Center. Used primarily to monitor network performance, isolate faults, repair them, provide provisioning supervison.
Where he made the leap to battery conservation is beyond me. Most devices that are email capable can poll for their mail upon waking from a sleep state. The iPhone can be set to poll for mail. This is pull rather than having the email pushed down to you.
I was reading an article that the number of Enterprises that actually provide cell phones to their employees (and those with extensive hardware infrastructure) is actually quite small. Even Rim is now aiming for people who buy their own cell phones who might want to access corporate email. Blackberry only has 12 million users now, there's a billion in the general cell-phone market. Apple wants corporate business I'm sure but I think their plans are much larger than fighting Rim. Apple is into mobile-computers than "can also be hand-phones". When component prices drop as they will and Apple iDevices become "cheap" -the last major barrier to the mass cellphone market: 'Price' will be gone - Apple is going to rule as no one can match Apple's tech advantage.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
You're right about this. Are enough large corporations willing to deal with Apple's penchant for secrecy regarding product direction? We'll see over the next year or two.
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
Dave
Did you watch the QT of the SDK announcement? If not, you should.
I'm certain that time will prove you wrong on your assertions.
I'm no expert on this, but it seems to me, the NOC approach is intended to carry out functions that the cellular service provider could do better--and will do better. As such, NOCs will soon be a thing of the past, and the native approach to be used by the iPhone in just a few months' time will quite possibly be more reliable. Not to mention less expensive.
NOC's are here to stay. As I posted earlier they serve a vital function in either a fixed or mobile network environment.
That doesn't make sense to me. We have "push phone calls" (the phone rings when you get a call you don't check every minutes to see if somone is calling) and that's not a huge battery drain.
Cell networks use ISDN protocols. They are always on in a sense waiting. The D-Channel does the OBS. Once a call build is received the phone rings, etc, etc, etc..... In essense the phone is always checking to see if it can make calls, receive calls, receive calls from a certain number, where is it currently, etc... These little things add up to battery drainage.
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
You're right about this. Are enough large corporations willing to deal with Apple's penchant for secrecy regarding product direction? We'll see over the next year or two.
Actually, with regard to iPhone, Apple has been reasonably non-secretive about their plans. They pre-announced the product itself, including the model/price/feature set and some detail of the carrier model, and the plan for subscription accounting and software update. They pre-announced the SDK. They pre-announced their time-table for launches in new markets. They have already announced that they will launch a 3G model and (roughly) when. They now have pre-announced the next software update, when it will be available, and what it will entail. Additionally, there have been pre-announcements by developers of SDK based product availability.
What's more, by claiming the "Apple is too secret" mantra, you're making a sweeping assumption that simply cannot be supported in fact. That is to say, simply because of how Apple has operated in the past with Macintosh, or iPod, or whatever, therefore it "shall" be going forward with iPhone and the enterprise. Not necessarily so, and I say time will bear out that Apple is serious about establishing iPhone in the enterprise.
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
Dave
- Could you please show us road-maps for HP, Dell, RIM, Palm, and MS?
- I remember processor roadmaps that were given to Apple by Motorola and IBM... Yeah not very reliable.
- Apple still supports early versions of OS X on their website, click on Apple's Support-tab, on the LHS you'll see a drop-down menu where you can select "Mac OS X 10.2 and earlier"
"So, the new iPhone features put the device on equal footing with Windows Mobile devices...
Not true, these new features make the iPhone more attractive than Win mobile devices, as the general consumer who has a job in the enterprise likely wanted an iPhone but couldn't get one before. They now can. People "want" an iPhone, nobody "wants!" a Win mobile device.
Don't underestimate desire [along with needed functionality] in really build this iPhone business, it's going to play a huge part. People love the iPhone, and for good reasons.
Yes, sorry Bageljoey,I obviously didn't explain myself clearly. All I wanted to be sure by the release of the SDK that Apple was truly opening up the iPhone/iTouch to a broad spectrum of apps before buying an iTouch. Now that I'm more than satisfied with what Apple will be providing, I may go ahead and purchase it now (25th anniversary coming up), knowing that come June or soon after, many apps will be available.
My only reservation is reports that the volume is poor.
Quote - JupiterOne
"I think the volume is pretty low for listening in anything but a near quiet setting. Sometimes I like to listen to a podcast while I have a long drive. To hear it over the road noise, I have to have the volume at maximum and hold it just a few inches away from my ear. But if you're at home or somewhere where there is not a lot of background noise, it should be OK."
Thanks JupiterOne, but the iPhone is different to the Itouch in that respect, you have to have earphones for the iTouch to listen, but I'm not interested in buying one if the volume is poor, as I've read, but this was only one person's review that I have seen. Have not seen anyone else commenting on this so I'm interested to find out.
Anyone with an iTouch like to comment?
I don't want my touch or iPhone to tie me to sound (playback OR recording) or photo. Promote an after-market for modules that offer great camera (flash,lenses, zoom, battery), or great little dime-sized speakers or stereo mic, and just concentrate on making a great brain for really good peripheral hardware.
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I dunno. At $399 the iPhone seems pretty competitive.
As a standalone replacement handset, it is. Problem is, Apple won't allow carriers to subsidize the cost on contracts. I know a lot of people with Blackberries, and none of them (individuals or companies) paid anything for the handsets.
Any info in the iPhone volume anyone?
I think the volume is pretty low for listening in anything but a near quiet setting. Sometimes I like to listen to a podcast while I have a long drive. To hear it over the road noise, I have to have the volume at maximum and hold it just a few inches away from my ear. But if you're at home or somewhere where there is not a lot of background noise, it should be OK.
I am just hoping our IT people will let our exchange server (ES) push to my iPhone. I am betting not. (We are an all PC company and we just recently went with Blackberry which cost a pretty penny).
Even though it is intuitively clear that getting info directly from ES to iphone is more secure than from ES to NOC to Blackberry. That extra step I think, was a pretty big deal in Apples presentation yesterday.
As a standalone replacement handset, it is. Problem is, Apple won't allow carriers to subsidize the cost on contracts. I know a lot of people with Blackberries, and none of them (individuals or companies) paid anything for the handsets.
Are you under the impression that those handsets are "free?"
Are you under the impression that those handsets are "free?"
The point might be that if your work covers the monthly payments and the price of the handset is incorporated in (subsidized by) the monthly payments, then the handset is, for all intents and purposes, free for the user.
Just a guess
I took his post to be saying that he was waiting for the SDK to come out before buying his wife an iPhone. This is supported by his concern about the volume on the iPhone at the end.
Now, why this poster would be waiting for an SDK (and not the actual applications) before purchasing for a third party is an open question. Maybe he just wanted to be sure Apple was serious about 3rd party support before he bought...
Any info in the iPhone volume anyone?
Yes, sorry Bageljoey,I obviously didn't explain myself clearly. All I wanted to be sure by the release of the SDK that Apple was truly opening up the iPhone/iTouch to a broad spectrum of apps before buying an iTouch. Now that I'm more than satisfied with what Apple will be providing, I may go ahead and purchase it now (25th anniversary coming up), knowing that come June or soon after, many apps will be available.
My only reservation is reports that the volume is poor.
Quote - JupiterOne
"I think the volume is pretty low for listening in anything but a near quiet setting. Sometimes I like to listen to a podcast while I have a long drive. To hear it over the road noise, I have to have the volume at maximum and hold it just a few inches away from my ear. But if you're at home or somewhere where there is not a lot of background noise, it should be OK."
Thanks JupiterOne, but the iPhone is different to the Itouch in that respect, you have to have earphones for the iTouch to listen, but I'm not interested in buying one if the volume is poor, as I've read, but this was only one person's review that I have seen. Have not seen anyone else commenting on this so I'm interested to find out.
Anyone with an iTouch like to comment?
The point might be that if your work covers the monthly payments and the price of the handset is incorporated in (subsidized by) the monthly payments, then the handset is, for all intents and purposes, free for the user.
Just a guess
But as we all know, that it isn't the case. Much like buying a new car when the salesman says, "Heck, I'll throw in a GPS." Ask him for the cash instead and see what you get. Nothing.
Or better yet, music played on a radio is free.
In the case above, there is a cost for the handset. I'll bet that the carrier or the manufacturer isn't giving it away.
Can someone explain what this means? What is NOC and how does it help the battery life of a phone?
NOC refers to RIM's centralized servers - with RIM - you subscribe to blackberry servers owned by RIM - all email is directed through RIM's servers. If you use outlook active synch - you can push email, calendar, contacts - with out a third party server solution (such as RIM or Goodlink).
The iPhone software developers kit (SDK) introduced by Apple on Thursday is proof the company is determined not to replicate mistakes made during the onset of its Mac platform
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
Dave
Someone with real knowledge of the matter will likely give a lot better answer, but I think the basic idea is: with an NOC, if your device is asleep (or out of range), the message gets cached on a server, and when your device is in back on, it can then get its messages gracefully. Without an NOC, the device has to keep a little more power going to some of its chips, continually listening for messages.
I think that's what they're talking about. Anybody out there, feel free to obviate this explanation with a better one
A NOC is a Network Operations Center. Used primarily to monitor network performance, isolate faults, repair them, provide provisioning supervison.
Where he made the leap to battery conservation is beyond me. Most devices that are email capable can poll for their mail upon waking from a sleep state. The iPhone can be set to poll for mail. This is pull rather than having the email pushed down to you.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
You're right about this. Are enough large corporations willing to deal with Apple's penchant for secrecy regarding product direction? We'll see over the next year or two.
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
Dave
Did you watch the QT of the SDK announcement? If not, you should.
I'm certain that time will prove you wrong on your assertions.
I'm no expert on this, but it seems to me, the NOC approach is intended to carry out functions that the cellular service provider could do better--and will do better. As such, NOCs will soon be a thing of the past, and the native approach to be used by the iPhone in just a few months' time will quite possibly be more reliable.
NOC's are here to stay. As I posted earlier they serve a vital function in either a fixed or mobile network environment.
That doesn't make sense to me. We have "push phone calls" (the phone rings when you get a call you don't check every minutes to see if somone is calling) and that's not a huge battery drain.
Cell networks use ISDN protocols. They are always on in a sense waiting. The D-Channel does the OBS. Once a call build is received the phone rings, etc, etc, etc..... In essense the phone is always checking to see if it can make calls, receive calls, receive calls from a certain number, where is it currently, etc... These little things add up to battery drainage.
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
Dave
True, true, true.
You're right about this. Are enough large corporations willing to deal with Apple's penchant for secrecy regarding product direction? We'll see over the next year or two.
Actually, with regard to iPhone, Apple has been reasonably non-secretive about their plans. They pre-announced the product itself, including the model/price/feature set and some detail of the carrier model, and the plan for subscription accounting and software update. They pre-announced the SDK. They pre-announced their time-table for launches in new markets. They have already announced that they will launch a 3G model and (roughly) when. They now have pre-announced the next software update, when it will be available, and what it will entail. Additionally, there have been pre-announcements by developers of SDK based product availability.
What's more, by claiming the "Apple is too secret" mantra, you're making a sweeping assumption that simply cannot be supported in fact. That is to say, simply because of how Apple has operated in the past with Macintosh, or iPod, or whatever, therefore it "shall" be going forward with iPhone and the enterprise. Not necessarily so, and I say time will bear out that Apple is serious about establishing iPhone in the enterprise.
Mark my words.
Really? I can't see too many enterprise customers giving Apple any real consideration.
Apple has never taken business customers seriously with the Macintosh or Mac OS X. That is why they have failed and continue to fail in business.
Is Apple going to provide enterprise customers with a real road make for their future products or make them wait for Macworld like we do? Can you imagine a major enterprise player placing an order for 25,000 iPhones only for Apple to announce iPhone 2.0 two months later at MacWord 2010? HP, Dell, RIM, Intel, Palm, MS, etc. provide such roadmaps to its customers.
Is Apple going to implement real hardware/software obsolescence plans for their products or are they just going to drop support like they do now? Remember how badly Apple handled the iSight camera and AirPort wireless NICs? Is Mac OS 10.3 officially support still? What about 10.2?
Is Apple going to force companies to do business with AT&T only (in the US) or are they going to allow enterprise customers a choice of carriers?
The list goes on.
I like the idea of SDK. I think it has some really great potential. I can see lots of new kinds of shareware being developed for the iPhone/iPod Touch. But I don't think there will be much interest in the enterprise sector...
Dave
- Could you please show us road-maps for HP, Dell, RIM, Palm, and MS?
- I remember processor roadmaps that were given to Apple by Motorola and IBM... Yeah not very reliable.
- Apple still supports early versions of OS X on their website, click on Apple's Support-tab, on the LHS you'll see a drop-down menu where you can select "Mac OS X 10.2 and earlier"
"So, the new iPhone features put the device on equal footing with Windows Mobile devices...
Not true, these new features make the iPhone more attractive than Win mobile devices, as the general consumer who has a job in the enterprise likely wanted an iPhone but couldn't get one before. They now can. People "want" an iPhone, nobody "wants!" a Win mobile device.
Don't underestimate desire [along with needed functionality] in really build this iPhone business, it's going to play a huge part. People love the iPhone, and for good reasons.
Yes, sorry Bageljoey,I obviously didn't explain myself clearly. All I wanted to be sure by the release of the SDK that Apple was truly opening up the iPhone/iTouch to a broad spectrum of apps before buying an iTouch. Now that I'm more than satisfied with what Apple will be providing, I may go ahead and purchase it now (25th anniversary coming up), knowing that come June or soon after, many apps will be available.
My only reservation is reports that the volume is poor.
Quote - JupiterOne
"I think the volume is pretty low for listening in anything but a near quiet setting. Sometimes I like to listen to a podcast while I have a long drive. To hear it over the road noise, I have to have the volume at maximum and hold it just a few inches away from my ear. But if you're at home or somewhere where there is not a lot of background noise, it should be OK."
Thanks JupiterOne, but the iPhone is different to the Itouch in that respect, you have to have earphones for the iTouch to listen, but I'm not interested in buying one if the volume is poor, as I've read, but this was only one person's review that I have seen. Have not seen anyone else commenting on this so I'm interested to find out.
Anyone with an iTouch like to comment?
I don't want my touch or iPhone to tie me to sound (playback OR recording) or photo. Promote an after-market for modules that offer great camera (flash,lenses, zoom, battery), or great little dime-sized speakers or stereo mic, and just concentrate on making a great brain for really good peripheral hardware.