I think iPhone Nano is perfectly fine, given a better name for a non-existent product. Got one?
I also disagree with the poster who says flip is 'so 90s'. I think sliders are so '6th grade/Transformers'.
Have you ever owned a slider? Flip-phones are more prone to drop than sliders and flip phone hinges break. Sliders tend to be smaller and thinner. Pardon me- but what's a Transformer and how does that relate to a slider phone?
The Blackberry is a dumb idea, and Apple will not play down to it.
Apple's going to own the market. Doing something really stupid like a nano-phone, is not something Apple has shown any signs of doing.
They may screw up, but not in the size or magnitude that going low-brow like the blackberry would be.
Get off the nano-phone dumb idea, and focus on keeping the lead.
Remember, Apple will never do anything in the phone business because leaders like Motoroloa will kill them.....
Got it. Don't agree, but get your POV.
I personally don't think the one-form-fits-all approach will work tho'. I actually think the iPhone is just a touch (no pun intended) obese. I think a slimmer form factor as an option would do well, but we'll see.
But as for Motorola killing Apple in the cell field? C'mon. Motorola is dead meat. They'll be out of the cell market in a year.
I personally don't think the one-form-fits-all approach will work tho'. I actually think the iPhone is just a touch (no pun intended) obese. I think a slimmer form factor as an option would do well, but we'll see.
But as for Motorola killing Apple in the cell field? C'mon. Motorola is dead meat. They'll be out of the cell market in a year.
Apple was supposed to fail at music because of the MP3 players and websites that "owned" the market.
They killed those "owners".
When Apple decided to move into the phone world, everybody said phones were not "easy" like the music business. (pretty funny considering how hard everyone said the music business was, until Apple made it look easy)
When Apple moved into the phone business, RIMM was NOT the copetition.
They did business phones and basically NOBODY thought general consumers would buy a smart phone. (see fa-mouse youtube of Balmer laughing at the iPhone saying "Who wants THAT?")
The real competition back at the beginning was the king of Phones.... motorola.
And as much as people want to think THEY self-destructed, Apple killed them by going where they could not follow.
At this juncture, you see my prior comments as "tongue inserted in cheek".
You should also rather easily see why I think it's a dumb idea to look backward at the competition behind us, to figure out how to compete with them...... (picture Nano-phone as looking backward)
Apple should stay on the offensive and keep going forward, no matter how many Android people, Microsoft people, or rimm fanatics say it won't work.
(at this point, read again how Sony will squash the iPod, Motorola will kill any phone Apple comes out with, and for a real laugh look at how Windows will out inovate the Mac....)
The Blackberry is a dumb idea, and Apple will not play down to it.
Apple's going to own the market. Doing something really stupid like a nano-phone, is not something Apple has shown any signs of doing.
They may screw up, but not in the size or magnitude that going low-brow like the blackberry would be.
Get off the nano-phone dumb idea, and focus on keeping the lead.
Remember, Apple will never do anything in the phone business because leaders like Motoroloa will kill them.....
Motorola is no longer a leader due to the fact that they made a big mistake with only one decent phone - the RAZR. Apple will come out with additional models and they will be amazing. There will be smaller, cheaper versions.
If you don't like the Nano name then how's the iPhone-mini?
Motorola is no longer a leader due to the fact that they made a big mistake with only one decent phone - the RAZR. Apple will come out with additional models and they will be amazing. There will be smaller, cheaper versions.
If you don't like the Nano name then how's the iPhone-mini?
It will be the return of Yao and Verne Troyer!
Dear frog in haven!
Please understand that Apple are GROWING A NEW PLATFORM the iPhone, any future iPhones from Apple will be MORE powerful, just like new computers get more powerful, more apps more processor intensive apps will need more cycles.. but the BASE LINE will have to be the current iPhone.
The only way Apple will bring out an iPhone nano is when they can do the same phone they have now, but in a smaller size/form but it will be AS POWERFUL as the current phone, because AS A PLATFORM it must be able to run the new apps.
IMO this is why there are extra untapped cycles in the iPhones CPU, they are there for future app developments.
think of the iPhone as Steve and Apple see it, a NEW PLATFORM and you will see why a lesser iPhone simply wouldn't BE an iPhone any more.
Have you ever owned a slider? Flip-phones are more prone to drop than sliders and flip phone hinges break. Sliders tend to be smaller and thinner. Pardon me- but what's a Transformer and how does that relate to a slider phone?
I don't understand why you say sliders are thinner. But the, per Abster2Core, you've said lots of outlandish things.
I don't understand why you say sliders are thinner. But the, per Abster2Core, you've said lots of outlandish things.
That opinion is outlandish?
For the most part sliders are thinner. Have you ever seen/used one? They are also more durable- no hinge. People I've know who have switched to them like them a lot- their form factor is much more compact and their use more ergonomic.
Why do you think flipphones superior? And note- I don't think your opinion is outlandish and I won't look up anybody who's disagreed with you in the past!
As for your other comment- you really should form your own opinions from whatever I've said and not from somebody who can't even discuss things without being totally irrational.
Please understand that Apple are GROWING A NEW PLATFORM the iPhone, any future iPhones from Apple will be MORE powerful, just like new computers get more powerful, more apps more processor intensive apps will need more cycles.. but the BASE LINE will have to be the current iPhone.
The only way Apple will bring out an iPhone nano is when they can do the same phone they have now, but in a smaller size/form but it will be AS POWERFUL as the current phone, because AS A PLATFORM it must be able to run the new apps.
IMO this is why there are extra untapped cycles in the iPhones CPU, they are there for future app developments.
think of the iPhone as Steve and Apple see it, a NEW PLATFORM and you will see why a lesser iPhone simply wouldn't BE an iPhone any more.
I agree it would no longer be an iphone perse not anymore than a Nano is a full iPod. The Nano just finally caught up to a regular iPod in capabilities after 3 years. But Apple would sell a lot more phones if they came out with and lesser version in price and functionality. Remember the iPod Mini was what took the iPod into the stratosphere.
Not everybody wants a data plan phone. A regular cellphone with a reduced OS would help grow the platform, in my opinion, and sell tons.
If the current iPhone, according to you, is the base then everything else added would cost more. Is that good?
For the most part sliders are thinner. Have you ever seen/used one? They are also more durable- no hinge. People I've know who have switched to them like them a lot- their form factor is much more compact and their use more ergonomic.
Why do you think flipphones superior? And note- I don't think your opinion is outlandish and I won't look up anybody who's disagreed with you in the past!
As for your other comment- you really should form your own opinions from whatever I've said and not from somebody who can't even discuss things without being totally irrational.
I did not say flip phones are superior. But I don't see anything special about sliders that would make them thinner. I've seen some, but they weren't any thinner. I don't see how they're more ergonomic, a slider is usually a straight stick when the human face is curved - which can be accommodated with a hinge that doesn't open to 180.
Flip-screen phones are so 2005. The iPhone Nano should be a slider- less bulky, easier to handle, and fits easily in your pockets.
Flip is really the only thing that makes sense. There's no chance of accidental activation and the screen is protected. Also, instead of the moronic action of activating your iPhone with a finger swipe, simply opening the phone takes care of it... no distractions. Clamshell is the same concept that keeps your MacBook from getting damaged in transit. Once Apple makes a flip phone, all will be right with the world.
First thought is that the competition is reaching for the antacid.
Second thought is don't look at what the competition has delivered in terms of form factors, like flip or sliders. Sit back, relax and let Jonathan Ive & Co. design something you are going to REALLY want - again.
I'll admit that I want the whole internet on my mobile phone. But I also want my mobile phone to fit in my BLOODY POCKET!!!!
if you think that an iPhone nano is a silly idea, you haven't looked in the mirror while wearing a phone in a special case on your belt. I hate to say it, but the phone holster is not the gun-slinger look of the modern age, any more than the pocket protector was 40 years ago. Its just an unfortunate and fairly lame by-product of bulky and fragile phones. iPhones are not fragile (remember that one which was run over by a truck? http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/i...tell-the-tale/). So the real problem is that they don't fit into a pocket. Give me an iphone interface, with the same level of internet access that actually fits in my pocket, and I'll shill out $800 clams without thinking.
Call me crazy, but its the one big thing I've been waiting for all this time!
Have you ever owned a slider? Flip-phones are more prone to drop than sliders and flip phone hinges break. Sliders tend to be smaller and thinner. Pardon me- but what's a Transformer and how does that relate to a slider phone?
i disagree with all your comments on flip phones. ever used a japanese flip phone? nice big, clear screens and good sized keypad. i've got an NEC flip phone, the hinge is rock solid after 2.5 years. it's a great phone, much more user friendly than the nokia 6200 that i also have atm.
Hyperbole, I expect. But I feel the same. The size of the old Mini is as large as I would consider pocket-size -- the size of the iPhone/Touch/Classic, is too large to fit nicely in my pockets. I also don't carry a wallet because they're too bulky for my liking (I carry only three cards -- bank, credit, license -- and a bit of cash).
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My, someone got up with a bug in their butt.
I think iPhone Nano is perfectly fine, given a better name for a non-existent product. Got one?
I also disagree with the poster who says flip is 'so 90s'. I think sliders are so '6th grade/Transformers'.
Have you ever owned a slider? Flip-phones are more prone to drop than sliders and flip phone hinges break. Sliders tend to be smaller and thinner. Pardon me- but what's a Transformer and how does that relate to a slider phone?
You missed the point.
The Blackberry is a dumb idea, and Apple will not play down to it.
Apple's going to own the market. Doing something really stupid like a nano-phone, is not something Apple has shown any signs of doing.
They may screw up, but not in the size or magnitude that going low-brow like the blackberry would be.
Get off the nano-phone dumb idea, and focus on keeping the lead.
Remember, Apple will never do anything in the phone business because leaders like Motoroloa will kill them.....
Got it. Don't agree, but get your POV.
I personally don't think the one-form-fits-all approach will work tho'. I actually think the iPhone is just a touch (no pun intended) obese. I think a slimmer form factor as an option would do well, but we'll see.
But as for Motorola killing Apple in the cell field? C'mon. Motorola is dead meat. They'll be out of the cell market in a year.
Got it. Don't agree, but get your POV.
I personally don't think the one-form-fits-all approach will work tho'. I actually think the iPhone is just a touch (no pun intended) obese. I think a slimmer form factor as an option would do well, but we'll see.
But as for Motorola killing Apple in the cell field? C'mon. Motorola is dead meat. They'll be out of the cell market in a year.
Apple was supposed to fail at music because of the MP3 players and websites that "owned" the market.
They killed those "owners".
When Apple decided to move into the phone world, everybody said phones were not "easy" like the music business. (pretty funny considering how hard everyone said the music business was, until Apple made it look easy)
When Apple moved into the phone business, RIMM was NOT the copetition.
They did business phones and basically NOBODY thought general consumers would buy a smart phone. (see fa-mouse youtube of Balmer laughing at the iPhone saying "Who wants THAT?")
The real competition back at the beginning was the king of Phones.... motorola.
And as much as people want to think THEY self-destructed, Apple killed them by going where they could not follow.
At this juncture, you see my prior comments as "tongue inserted in cheek".
You should also rather easily see why I think it's a dumb idea to look backward at the competition behind us, to figure out how to compete with them...... (picture Nano-phone as looking backward)
Apple should stay on the offensive and keep going forward, no matter how many Android people, Microsoft people, or rimm fanatics say it won't work.
(at this point, read again how Sony will squash the iPod, Motorola will kill any phone Apple comes out with, and for a real laugh look at how Windows will out inovate the Mac....)
I only wonder if Apple will release new displays before OELD's become the standard, or the sun burns out.
You missed the point.
The Blackberry is a dumb idea, and Apple will not play down to it.
Apple's going to own the market. Doing something really stupid like a nano-phone, is not something Apple has shown any signs of doing.
They may screw up, but not in the size or magnitude that going low-brow like the blackberry would be.
Get off the nano-phone dumb idea, and focus on keeping the lead.
Remember, Apple will never do anything in the phone business because leaders like Motoroloa will kill them.....
Motorola is no longer a leader due to the fact that they made a big mistake with only one decent phone - the RAZR. Apple will come out with additional models and they will be amazing. There will be smaller, cheaper versions.
If you don't like the Nano name then how's the iPhone-mini?
It will be the return of Yao and Verne Troyer!
iPod MonkeyBucket FTW!!
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Motorola is no longer a leader due to the fact that they made a big mistake with only one decent phone - the RAZR. Apple will come out with additional models and they will be amazing. There will be smaller, cheaper versions.
If you don't like the Nano name then how's the iPhone-mini?
It will be the return of Yao and Verne Troyer!
Dear frog in haven!
Please understand that Apple are GROWING A NEW PLATFORM the iPhone, any future iPhones from Apple will be MORE powerful, just like new computers get more powerful, more apps more processor intensive apps will need more cycles.. but the BASE LINE will have to be the current iPhone.
The only way Apple will bring out an iPhone nano is when they can do the same phone they have now, but in a smaller size/form but it will be AS POWERFUL as the current phone, because AS A PLATFORM it must be able to run the new apps.
IMO this is why there are extra untapped cycles in the iPhones CPU, they are there for future app developments.
think of the iPhone as Steve and Apple see it, a NEW PLATFORM and you will see why a lesser iPhone simply wouldn't BE an iPhone any more.
Have you ever owned a slider? Flip-phones are more prone to drop than sliders and flip phone hinges break. Sliders tend to be smaller and thinner. Pardon me- but what's a Transformer and how does that relate to a slider phone?
I don't understand why you say sliders are thinner. But the, per Abster2Core, you've said lots of outlandish things.
I don't understand why you say sliders are thinner. But the, per Abster2Core, you've said lots of outlandish things.
That opinion is outlandish?
For the most part sliders are thinner. Have you ever seen/used one? They are also more durable- no hinge. People I've know who have switched to them like them a lot- their form factor is much more compact and their use more ergonomic.
Why do you think flipphones superior? And note- I don't think your opinion is outlandish and I won't look up anybody who's disagreed with you in the past!
As for your other comment- you really should form your own opinions from whatever I've said and not from somebody who can't even discuss things without being totally irrational.
Dear frog in haven!
Please understand that Apple are GROWING A NEW PLATFORM the iPhone, any future iPhones from Apple will be MORE powerful, just like new computers get more powerful, more apps more processor intensive apps will need more cycles.. but the BASE LINE will have to be the current iPhone.
The only way Apple will bring out an iPhone nano is when they can do the same phone they have now, but in a smaller size/form but it will be AS POWERFUL as the current phone, because AS A PLATFORM it must be able to run the new apps.
IMO this is why there are extra untapped cycles in the iPhones CPU, they are there for future app developments.
think of the iPhone as Steve and Apple see it, a NEW PLATFORM and you will see why a lesser iPhone simply wouldn't BE an iPhone any more.
I agree it would no longer be an iphone perse not anymore than a Nano is a full iPod. The Nano just finally caught up to a regular iPod in capabilities after 3 years. But Apple would sell a lot more phones if they came out with and lesser version in price and functionality. Remember the iPod Mini was what took the iPod into the stratosphere.
Not everybody wants a data plan phone. A regular cellphone with a reduced OS would help grow the platform, in my opinion, and sell tons.
If the current iPhone, according to you, is the base then everything else added would cost more. Is that good?
That opinion is outlandish?
For the most part sliders are thinner. Have you ever seen/used one? They are also more durable- no hinge. People I've know who have switched to them like them a lot- their form factor is much more compact and their use more ergonomic.
Why do you think flipphones superior? And note- I don't think your opinion is outlandish and I won't look up anybody who's disagreed with you in the past!
As for your other comment- you really should form your own opinions from whatever I've said and not from somebody who can't even discuss things without being totally irrational.
I did not say flip phones are superior. But I don't see anything special about sliders that would make them thinner. I've seen some, but they weren't any thinner. I don't see how they're more ergonomic, a slider is usually a straight stick when the human face is curved - which can be accommodated with a hinge that doesn't open to 180.
Flip-screen phones are so 2005. The iPhone Nano should be a slider- less bulky, easier to handle, and fits easily in your pockets.
Flip is really the only thing that makes sense. There's no chance of accidental activation and the screen is protected. Also, instead of the moronic action of activating your iPhone with a finger swipe, simply opening the phone takes care of it... no distractions. Clamshell is the same concept that keeps your MacBook from getting damaged in transit. Once Apple makes a flip phone, all will be right with the world.
;^p
Second thought is don't look at what the competition has delivered in terms of form factors, like flip or sliders. Sit back, relax and let Jonathan Ive & Co. design something you are going to REALLY want - again.
if you think that an iPhone nano is a silly idea, you haven't looked in the mirror while wearing a phone in a special case on your belt. I hate to say it, but the phone holster is not the gun-slinger look of the modern age, any more than the pocket protector was 40 years ago. Its just an unfortunate and fairly lame by-product of bulky and fragile phones. iPhones are not fragile (remember that one which was run over by a truck? http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/i...tell-the-tale/). So the real problem is that they don't fit into a pocket. Give me an iphone interface, with the same level of internet access that actually fits in my pocket, and I'll shill out $800 clams without thinking.
Call me crazy, but its the one big thing I've been waiting for all this time!
I'll admit that I want the whole internet on my mobile phone. But I also want my mobile phone to fit in my BLOODY POCKET!!!!
How small are your bloody pockets?
Have you ever owned a slider? Flip-phones are more prone to drop than sliders and flip phone hinges break. Sliders tend to be smaller and thinner. Pardon me- but what's a Transformer and how does that relate to a slider phone?
i disagree with all your comments on flip phones. ever used a japanese flip phone? nice big, clear screens and good sized keypad. i've got an NEC flip phone, the hinge is rock solid after 2.5 years. it's a great phone, much more user friendly than the nokia 6200 that i also have atm.
i for one would love to see a flip iPhone.
How small are your bloody pockets?
Hyperbole, I expect. But I feel the same. The size of the old Mini is as large as I would consider pocket-size -- the size of the iPhone/Touch/Classic, is too large to fit nicely in my pockets. I also don't carry a wallet because they're too bulky for my liking (I carry only three cards -- bank, credit, license -- and a bit of cash).