QUARTZ HARDWARE ACCEL!!

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in macOS edited January 2014
From MacCentral:



"Quartz Extreme: Takes the compositing engine in Quartz, and accelerates it in graphics cards. Combines 2D, 3D and video in one hardware pipeline via OpenGL



It is not possible on older graphics cards like RAGE 128 cards, said Jobs -- that means it'll work on newer iMacs and eMacs, but not on older machines, he emphasized. AGP 2x and 32MB video RAM are required for this new technology."



HOT!



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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 191
    michael greymichael grey Posts: 384member
    [quote] It is not possible on older graphics cards like RAGE 128 cards, said Jobs -- that means it'll work on newer iMacs and eMacs, but not on older machines, he emphasized. AGP 2x and 32MB video RAM are required for this new technology. <hr></blockquote>
  • Reply 2 of 191
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    Does this mean I can't buy a new complient video card for my B & W Powermac?
  • Reply 3 of 191
    michael greymichael grey Posts: 384member
    I think not. Event if you could buy a card with 32MB of RAM, you don't have the 2x AGP.
  • Reply 4 of 191
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    Now what's my eBay account number...
  • Reply 5 of 191
    arty50arty50 Posts: 201member
    OK so what happens if you have a dual monitor setup that runs through a PCI card (say a Radeon). Your main display gets hardware acceleration and you secondary gets umm...uhhhh...anyone see the problem here?
  • Reply 5 of 191
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    I assume that the same is true of my G3-450 iMacs...sluggish forever.



    Hmm, I wounder what Apple is going to do about that class action?
  • Reply 7 of 191
    macanoid(tm)macanoid(tm) Posts: 344member
    I have a radeon 32mb card in my 500 MHz G4 Cube - does this mean my machine is supported supported?
  • Reply 8 of 191
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by macanoid?:

    <strong>I have a radeon 32mb card in my 500 MHz G4 Cube - does this mean my machine is supported supported?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    YES!
  • Reply 9 of 191
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,425member
    [quote]Originally posted by Addison:

    <strong>I assume that the same is true of my G3-450 iMacs...sluggish forever.



    Hmm, I wounder what Apple is going to do about that class action?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Class Action won't work. Apple never promised you blazing Video Performance.
  • Reply 10 of 191
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    You're telling me that the UI requires more horsepower than most FPSs require?



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  • Reply 11 of 191
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Time to do some digging in old threads (even pre-blackout) when the rumor loonies were spouting all kinds of non-sense about RAYCER CHIPS for the UI, I shouted up and down far and wide that UI improvements would come in the form of a tight OpenGL integration that let the videocard already in use do a lot more of the work.



    Raycer just bore it's fruit. There you go.



    Looks like iMacs (g3) and iBooks are both dead in the water as far as future speed increases for OSX go. I can't see why anyone would buy either machine knowing this. Even recently purchased VGA-out TiBooks, won't get any UI help.



    Expect Ebay to be very active this summer.
  • Reply 12 of 191
    scott f.scott f. Posts: 276member
    [quote]Originally posted by Arty50:

    <strong>OK so what happens if you have a dual monitor setup that runs through a PCI card (say a Radeon). Your main display gets hardware acceleration and you secondary gets umm...uhhhh...anyone see the problem here?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I have the same question as Arty50... I currently have a G4 tower with AGP, but I also have a second display via PCI and was about to drop $$$ on a THIRD display card for video (Matrox RT-Mac once the OSX drivers are available)... but does that mean that none of the PCI displays will see the accelleration...? will they offer multi AGP boxes...? how does this effect us multi-display users... I am now worried.



    - Scott
  • Reply 13 of 191
    macanoid(tm)macanoid(tm) Posts: 344member
    [quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:

    <strong>



    YES!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Thanks a million for the quick reply :-) I feel happier now!
  • Reply 14 of 191
    airslufairsluf Posts: 1,861member
  • Reply 15 of 191
    apple.otakuapple.otaku Posts: 590member
    What about the PowerBook?
  • Reply 16 of 191
    deliveratordeliverator Posts: 11member
    I see that I will need to replace my video card in my dp/450. I can't seem to find out if it is agp 2x or not though. Anyone know?
  • Reply 17 of 191
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    I'm a bit anxious about this too... I mean, really... that's a whole lot of people to be all but orphaning... i mean it'll still work, but it better be speeded up some on machines with &lt;32 mb VRAM....
  • Reply 18 of 191
    x704x704 Posts: 276member
    [quote]Originally posted by deliverator:

    <strong>I see that I will need to replace my video card in my dp/450. I can't seem to find out if it is agp 2x or not though. Anyone know?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Any G4 450Mhz or higher that shipped that way from Apple are AGP. Most G4 400's are too (although some are not)
  • Reply 19 of 191
    spotbugspotbug Posts: 361member
    What currently shipping models aren't supported? iBook and which others?



    TiBook is 32MB, AGP 4x so that's ok.
  • Reply 20 of 191
    x704x704 Posts: 276member
    [quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:

    <strong>I'm a bit anxious about this too... I mean, really... that's a whole lot of people to be all but orphaning... i mean it'll still work, but it better be speeded up some on machines with &lt;32 mb VRAM....</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I'd assume that the other general optimizations that will occur with Jaguar will help those with less then 32 MB. In the end though I don't think they'll ever get snappy finder performance. Another reason to upgrade I guess (which is probably what Apples thinking too).
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