Every little bit adds up. If all those power bricks consumed 10W, then you would probably see it in the electricity bill, though they would probably also be very hot to the touch. Mr H did make a good point that if 1/4 million of ATVs were never sleeping when they should be, 4MW is enough to power a town. Audio receivers probably don't consume a lot of power when they're off, most HT devices seem to consume less than 1W in standby whenever I look in the manual's spec page.
I can't speak for TiVos, but my EyeTV powers up my HT Mac just in time for a scheduled recording, then it shuts down after a recording. But at least it's doing something when it's on, and it's not on when it's not doing something.
Do projection TVs really constantly keep a bulb warm?
TiVo Series 3 is constantly on, because it never goes to sleep and is always recording the 30 minute "pause live tv" buffer to hard disk, on two different tuners, no less. The TiVo has no way of knowing you're not watching TV. Plus, depending on how diverse your viewing habits are, it's probably almost always recording some "suggestion" anyways. That's part of the device's appeal to many.
As far TV's keeping the bulb warm, on some of my sets it's a user configurable option. I think the default is for "instant" on, so people don't hate their TVs for taking so long to give a picture when they turn it on. This could very well be brand specific. I have a Toshiba and a Samsung (65" and 50" - both DLP).
None of the "instant view" titles in my queue are documentaries, foreign films, indies or TV shows. And it's pretty close to the 10:1 ratio with my movie queue too, pretty close to the ratio of 100,000 DVD catalog: 10,000 "instant view" catalog they claim.
What are they? Mainstream movies, but old ones?
Most likely, their 100K catalog of DVDs is weighted pretty heavily toward TV shows as well. How many movies are released a year, and how many episodes of TV shows are released per year?
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Ive been using the Roku since last Thursday and have to say that this thing CRUSHES the apple tv.
It like trying to compare the Amazon river to a mud puddle.
In what way? It's cool that the box is cheaper, but they seem to offer very little of the content I'm interested in watching. It's completely useless to me if it can't even stream content I already have on my computer.
TiVo Series 3 is constantly on, because it never goes to sleep and is always recording the 30 minute "pause live tv" buffer to hard disk, on two different tuners, no less. The TiVo has no way of knowing you're not watching TV. Plus, depending on how diverse your viewing habits are, it's probably almost always recording some "suggestion" anyways. That's part of the device's appeal to many.
So there's no way to put it on standby?
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As far TV's keeping the bulb warm, on some of my sets it's a user configurable option. I think the default is for "instant" on, so people don't hate their TVs for taking so long to give a picture when they turn it on. This could very well be brand specific. I have a Toshiba and a Samsung (65" and 50" - both DLP).
OK. I've owned a couple front projectors and never seen anything like that.
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What are they? Mainstream movies, but old ones?
All mainstream movies, some are maybe about a year old, some are older.
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Most likely, their 100K catalog of DVDs is weighted pretty heavily toward TV shows as well. How many movies are released a year, and how many episodes of TV shows are released per year?
That, I don't know. I think a typical movie is more likely to make it to DVD than a typical TV series. I have several season 1 DVD sets from the 90's, a couple were highly rated prime time shows, which were not followed up with more season sets.
Never going to survive without a hard drive to cache the content.
When the connection craps out and you have to start the movie over again there will be some pissed off people.
I find that hard to believe, because when I go from one computer to another, I resume where I left the movie at. Doesn't that mean it is not using a cache for the content? Also, if I do have a connection problem or interruption, I never have to restart the whole movie, it just continues from where I left off. Might be same technologies that HULU (www.hulu.com) is using, or HULU got it from Netflix. Think different? Just think before you speak. That is my three cents worth of information.
What highly rated prime time shows haven't been released on DVD? Seems like most are, at least fairly recent ones. And downloads often include shows that aren't on DVD.
Just to get ballpark numbers, if four movies are released every weekend, that's 200 per year.
With most TV shows doing 20 ore more episodes per year, only 10 series would have to get released on DVD for TV episodes to outnumber movies. If you look at iTunes, it even includes things like talk shows and soap operas, which generate hundreds of episodes per year (netflix doesn't seem to have these yet).
It's too bad NF doesn't have a way to search for just downloadable titles. Browsing through them, it seems to be far less than 10%. Some of that is probably because it's not - they list 100K disks, but their 10K number is movies and episodes. In their DVD numbers, the number of episodes/movies would be much higher since a TV disk typically contains 3-8 episodes.
What highly rated prime time shows haven't been released on DVD? Seems like most are, at least fairly recent ones. And downloads often include shows that aren't on DVD.
Just to get ballpark numbers, if four movies are released every weekend, that's 200 per year.
With most TV shows doing 20 ore more episodes per year, only 10 series would have to get released on DVD for TV episodes to outnumber movies. If you look at iTunes, it even includes things like talk shows and soap operas, which generate hundreds of episodes per year (netflix doesn't seem to have these yet).
It's too bad NF doesn't have a way to search for just downloadable titles. Browsing through them, it seems to be far less than 10%. Some of that is probably because it's not - they list 100K disks, but their 10K number is movies and episodes. In their DVD numbers, the number of episodes/movies would be much higher since a TV disk typically contains 3-8 episodes.
But, they do have a way to search for just download titles, you just have to try the service to actually know what it does. This is another reason to try before you buy, they offer a free trial. You should try it, then see what it is actually like.
What highly rated prime time shows haven't been released on DVD? Seems like most are, at least fairly recent ones
Remember, I said the '90s. I have NightCourt (mid-'80s to early '90s), only one season out. Murphy Brown only has one season out, no new ones coming that I've seen. Just Shoot Me is a favorite of mine, but I can't find any ratings info, there is only one set out, seasons 1 & 2.
Now, I think most new prime time shows are out, whether or not they were cancelled.
But, they do have a way to search for just download titles, you just have to try the service to actually know what it does. This is another reason to try before you buy, they offer a free trial. You should try it, then see what it is actually like.
Way to jump to conclusions there, I have netflix as should be obvious from my posts (if I didn't have it, what exactly do you think I meant by talking about "my queue"?)
I found their page for just download titles, it looks like it's browsing only and no searching. Looking at the top 50 downloads, it's heavy on TV (even before you consider that they list entire seasons as one item on that list when they count them as 10-25 episodes).
And looking at that list, you see how many of the movies are things you've never heard of. Looking at that selection, it's hard for me to imagine getting excited about.
The TV Shows are what interest me. I just got into The Unit and watched the entire first 3 seasons, but had to purchase them from iTunes Store since they weren't adequately available by other means.
I have no interest in buying it just yet, but it sure could save me some money. If I plan to watch Law & Order from the beginning this device could save me some money.
The TV Shows are what interest me. I just got into The Unit and watched the entire first 3 seasons, but had to purchase them from iTunes Store since they weren't adequately available by other means.
I have no interest in buying it just yet, but it sure could save me some money. If I plan to watch Law & Order from the beginning this device could save me some money.
For watching TV shows, I've been doing netflix (DVD) for a while now. Great way to see a ton of shows cheap. This box would be handy, but even with TV content their selection is very limited.
For watching TV shows, I've been doing netflix (DVD) for a while now. Great way to see a ton of shows cheap. This box would be handy, but even with TV content their selection is very limited.
That is what I used to do. I have grown accustomed (you can figure out how) to not having commercial interruptions so I don't watch much TV as it aires. I usually wait for a series to get into several seasons or to finish before picking it up.
With so many shows in the 21 century having series long hooks and cliffhangers at the end of each episode it's a nice way for me to watch it.
But I am on the road to much now and don't have a set mailing address for Netflix to reach me. Though I should see about get their streaming system to work on Mac using CrossOver.
Hmmm...not at home to check, but thinking through all the menus, I believe there is a way to put the TiVo into standby...If I recall correctly, under the settings menu, there's an option to place the unit in standby or restart it. I'd have to play with it to see if it impacts operation of the device. I don't know if it would put the thing to sleep until you turned it back on, or if it can wake itself up for recording suggestions. Either way, I'd wager most people don't know it's there since it's buried pretty deep in the menus. Also, if it won't wake up for suggestions/recording on its own, it defeats the whole purpose of TiVo.
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Originally Posted by minderbinder
What highly rated prime time shows haven't been released on DVD? Seems like most are, at least fairly recent ones. And downloads often include shows that aren't on DVD.
Just to get ballpark numbers, if four movies are released every weekend, that's 200 per year.
With most TV shows doing 20 ore more episodes per year, only 10 series would have to get released on DVD for TV episodes to outnumber movies. If you look at iTunes, it even includes things like talk shows and soap operas, which generate hundreds of episodes per year (netflix doesn't seem to have these yet).
It's too bad NF doesn't have a way to search for just downloadable titles. Browsing through them, it seems to be far less than 10%. Some of that is probably because it's not - they list 100K disks, but their 10K number is movies and episodes. In their DVD numbers, the number of episodes/movies would be much higher since a TV disk typically contains 3-8 episodes.
The Watch It Now selection of TV shows is huge. There's 23 categories of TV shows from BBC to cartoons to drama to reality to politics and everything in between. In the TV crime drama section, there are 45 1-season offerings. They are Adam -12 (7 seasons), Kojak (5 seasons) Dragnet (3 seasons), Miami Vice (5 seasons), The Rockford Files (4 seasons), Dexter (1 season), Kennedy Criminoligist (1 season), Brotherhood (1 season), Law & Order SVU, CI, (7 and 3 seasons).
i think that's it without drilling any deeper. If you check out the 60's and 70's shows, they had like 26 episodes per season back then (confirmed with Dragnet), and modern shows probably have 20-22, so a little quick math, just for the TV Crime Show category they're offering 37 seasons of shows at an average of say 22 shows per season = 814 titles.
Wow, of the "10,000 titles" they're offering, over 8% are TV Crime shows, which is only one of 23 categories of TV shows, and honestly, looking at the selections listed above, it mostly Law & Order and 60s/70's television shows. Is this really quality content to drive you to the service if getting a Roku is what you have in mind (which is what I had in mind when getting the free trial)?
Checking out TV Action and Adventure, we have the following Must See TV series offered up: Knight Rider, Airwolf, The A-Team, Emergency, Xena, Hercules, Seaquest 2032, She Spies, Sleeper Cell, The Incredible Hulk, Simon & Simon, Conan, Pain Killer Jane, Heroes.
Only three of those shows are less than 10 years old, and most are from the 70s. Again, at an average of 22 episodes per season, and the 57 seasons of episodes offered in that list, we're looking at another 1,254 TV episodes in our 10,000 offered.
We're up to 20% of the offerings being old TV shows in just two categories.
Now, some of those old shows interest me for nostalgia's sake (Adam 12 was a favorite of mine as a kid, and was filmed in my neighborhood, so it's fun to look at how the neighborhoods have/have-not changed. But most of it is just crap in my opinion. YMMV.
The movie offerings seem to be older flicks.
Bottom line, you really can't judge the service in and of itself until you go through and look at it and see if the offerings interest you.
Someone said you can't search, but that's not true, type in the name of a TV show and it will bring it up.
Spliney thinks this... ...and this... ...are both toasters, so they must look the same.]
Now you're just being silly. The main point of my argument relies on the fact that both devices are often placed out of view. The Roku unit might as well look like a PC jr. For things that aren't in places where they can be admired, it's all about functionality. Case in point: the usage is bound to a remote. Toasters are certainly in places that allow them to be admired, and used directly.
Hmmm...not at home to check, but thinking through all the menus, I believe there is a way to put the TiVo into standby...If I recall correctly, under the settings menu, there's an option to place the unit in standby or restart it. I'd have to play with it to see if it impacts operation of the device. I don't know if it would put the thing to sleep until you turned it back on, or if it can wake itself up for recording suggestions. Either way, I'd wager most people don't know it's there since it's buried pretty deep in the menus. Also, if it won't wake up for suggestions/recording on its own, it defeats the whole purpose of TiVo.
Then that almost doesn't count if it's so hard to get to. Standby should be a red button on the remote. It shouldn't be hard to make a device that goes to standby / sleep when it's not in use, it's quite unfortunate if it can't.
Then that almost doesn't count if it's so hard to get to. Standby should be a red button on the remote. It shouldn't be hard to make a device that goes to standby / sleep when it's not in use, it's quite unfortunate if it can't.
Screw the environment! I use baby seals for fuel.
Seriously, if it's in standby it can't record shows. If you don't want to record anything then why not just turn it off completely.
Seriously, if it's in standby it can't record shows. If you don't want to record anything then why not just turn it off completely.
The only way to turn a TiVo off is to unplug it. I just read on the TiVo forums that all standby mode does is turn off the OLED display.
edit:, but I just tried it and it also cuts off the video out signal to the TV. The recorder is still recording a suggestion, and one of the red LEDs that indicates a recording in progess is still on. I have no idea how much energy this saves like that; and I'll leave it to others to research further.
The only way to turn a TiVo off is to unplug it. I just read on the TiVo forums that all standby mode does is turn off the OLED display. What's the point of that? ;-)
There is no off button because it's not meant ot be turned off. It's like a Cable box with a DVR, the Off button turns off the output A/V signals but it needs to be on record shows.
As for the LED display, I guess not everyone likes to have them on.
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Every little bit adds up. If all those power bricks consumed 10W, then you would probably see it in the electricity bill, though they would probably also be very hot to the touch. Mr H did make a good point that if 1/4 million of ATVs were never sleeping when they should be, 4MW is enough to power a town. Audio receivers probably don't consume a lot of power when they're off, most HT devices seem to consume less than 1W in standby whenever I look in the manual's spec page.
I can't speak for TiVos, but my EyeTV powers up my HT Mac just in time for a scheduled recording, then it shuts down after a recording. But at least it's doing something when it's on, and it's not on when it's not doing something.
Do projection TVs really constantly keep a bulb warm?
TiVo Series 3 is constantly on, because it never goes to sleep and is always recording the 30 minute "pause live tv" buffer to hard disk, on two different tuners, no less. The TiVo has no way of knowing you're not watching TV. Plus, depending on how diverse your viewing habits are, it's probably almost always recording some "suggestion" anyways. That's part of the device's appeal to many.
As far TV's keeping the bulb warm, on some of my sets it's a user configurable option. I think the default is for "instant" on, so people don't hate their TVs for taking so long to give a picture when they turn it on. This could very well be brand specific. I have a Toshiba and a Samsung (65" and 50" - both DLP).
It like trying to compare the Amazon river to a mud puddle.
None of the "instant view" titles in my queue are documentaries, foreign films, indies or TV shows. And it's pretty close to the 10:1 ratio with my movie queue too, pretty close to the ratio of 100,000 DVD catalog: 10,000 "instant view" catalog they claim.
What are they? Mainstream movies, but old ones?
Most likely, their 100K catalog of DVDs is weighted pretty heavily toward TV shows as well. How many movies are released a year, and how many episodes of TV shows are released per year?
Ive been using the Roku since last Thursday and have to say that this thing CRUSHES the apple tv.
It like trying to compare the Amazon river to a mud puddle.
In what way? It's cool that the box is cheaper, but they seem to offer very little of the content I'm interested in watching. It's completely useless to me if it can't even stream content I already have on my computer.
TiVo Series 3 is constantly on, because it never goes to sleep and is always recording the 30 minute "pause live tv" buffer to hard disk, on two different tuners, no less. The TiVo has no way of knowing you're not watching TV. Plus, depending on how diverse your viewing habits are, it's probably almost always recording some "suggestion" anyways. That's part of the device's appeal to many.
So there's no way to put it on standby?
As far TV's keeping the bulb warm, on some of my sets it's a user configurable option. I think the default is for "instant" on, so people don't hate their TVs for taking so long to give a picture when they turn it on. This could very well be brand specific. I have a Toshiba and a Samsung (65" and 50" - both DLP).
OK. I've owned a couple front projectors and never seen anything like that.
What are they? Mainstream movies, but old ones?
All mainstream movies, some are maybe about a year old, some are older.
Most likely, their 100K catalog of DVDs is weighted pretty heavily toward TV shows as well. How many movies are released a year, and how many episodes of TV shows are released per year?
That, I don't know. I think a typical movie is more likely to make it to DVD than a typical TV series. I have several season 1 DVD sets from the 90's, a couple were highly rated prime time shows, which were not followed up with more season sets.
Never going to survive without a hard drive to cache the content.
When the connection craps out and you have to start the movie over again there will be some pissed off people.
I find that hard to believe, because when I go from one computer to another, I resume where I left the movie at. Doesn't that mean it is not using a cache for the content? Also, if I do have a connection problem or interruption, I never have to restart the whole movie, it just continues from where I left off. Might be same technologies that HULU (www.hulu.com) is using, or HULU got it from Netflix. Think different? Just think before you speak. That is my three cents worth of information.
Just to get ballpark numbers, if four movies are released every weekend, that's 200 per year.
With most TV shows doing 20 ore more episodes per year, only 10 series would have to get released on DVD for TV episodes to outnumber movies. If you look at iTunes, it even includes things like talk shows and soap operas, which generate hundreds of episodes per year (netflix doesn't seem to have these yet).
It's too bad NF doesn't have a way to search for just downloadable titles. Browsing through them, it seems to be far less than 10%. Some of that is probably because it's not - they list 100K disks, but their 10K number is movies and episodes. In their DVD numbers, the number of episodes/movies would be much higher since a TV disk typically contains 3-8 episodes.
What highly rated prime time shows haven't been released on DVD? Seems like most are, at least fairly recent ones. And downloads often include shows that aren't on DVD.
Just to get ballpark numbers, if four movies are released every weekend, that's 200 per year.
With most TV shows doing 20 ore more episodes per year, only 10 series would have to get released on DVD for TV episodes to outnumber movies. If you look at iTunes, it even includes things like talk shows and soap operas, which generate hundreds of episodes per year (netflix doesn't seem to have these yet).
It's too bad NF doesn't have a way to search for just downloadable titles. Browsing through them, it seems to be far less than 10%. Some of that is probably because it's not - they list 100K disks, but their 10K number is movies and episodes. In their DVD numbers, the number of episodes/movies would be much higher since a TV disk typically contains 3-8 episodes.
But, they do have a way to search for just download titles, you just have to try the service to actually know what it does. This is another reason to try before you buy, they offer a free trial. You should try it, then see what it is actually like.
What highly rated prime time shows haven't been released on DVD? Seems like most are, at least fairly recent ones
Remember, I said the '90s. I have NightCourt (mid-'80s to early '90s), only one season out. Murphy Brown only has one season out, no new ones coming that I've seen. Just Shoot Me is a favorite of mine, but I can't find any ratings info, there is only one set out, seasons 1 & 2.
Now, I think most new prime time shows are out, whether or not they were cancelled.
Doesn't netflix have a limit on how many hrs of streaming i can watch?
NOPE, NO LIMIT
But, they do have a way to search for just download titles, you just have to try the service to actually know what it does. This is another reason to try before you buy, they offer a free trial. You should try it, then see what it is actually like.
Way to jump to conclusions there, I have netflix as should be obvious from my posts (if I didn't have it, what exactly do you think I meant by talking about "my queue"?)
I found their page for just download titles, it looks like it's browsing only and no searching. Looking at the top 50 downloads, it's heavy on TV (even before you consider that they list entire seasons as one item on that list when they count them as 10-25 episodes).
And looking at that list, you see how many of the movies are things you've never heard of. Looking at that selection, it's hard for me to imagine getting excited about.
I have no interest in buying it just yet, but it sure could save me some money. If I plan to watch Law & Order from the beginning this device could save me some money.
The TV Shows are what interest me. I just got into The Unit and watched the entire first 3 seasons, but had to purchase them from iTunes Store since they weren't adequately available by other means.
I have no interest in buying it just yet, but it sure could save me some money. If I plan to watch Law & Order from the beginning this device could save me some money.
For watching TV shows, I've been doing netflix (DVD) for a while now. Great way to see a ton of shows cheap. This box would be handy, but even with TV content their selection is very limited.
For watching TV shows, I've been doing netflix (DVD) for a while now. Great way to see a ton of shows cheap. This box would be handy, but even with TV content their selection is very limited.
That is what I used to do. I have grown accustomed (you can figure out how) to not having commercial interruptions so I don't watch much TV as it aires. I usually wait for a series to get into several seasons or to finish before picking it up.
With so many shows in the 21 century having series long hooks and cliffhangers at the end of each episode it's a nice way for me to watch it.
But I am on the road to much now and don't have a set mailing address for Netflix to reach me. Though I should see about get their streaming system to work on Mac using CrossOver.
So there's no way to put it on standby?
Hmmm...not at home to check, but thinking through all the menus, I believe there is a way to put the TiVo into standby...If I recall correctly, under the settings menu, there's an option to place the unit in standby or restart it. I'd have to play with it to see if it impacts operation of the device. I don't know if it would put the thing to sleep until you turned it back on, or if it can wake itself up for recording suggestions. Either way, I'd wager most people don't know it's there since it's buried pretty deep in the menus. Also, if it won't wake up for suggestions/recording on its own, it defeats the whole purpose of TiVo.
What highly rated prime time shows haven't been released on DVD? Seems like most are, at least fairly recent ones. And downloads often include shows that aren't on DVD.
Just to get ballpark numbers, if four movies are released every weekend, that's 200 per year.
With most TV shows doing 20 ore more episodes per year, only 10 series would have to get released on DVD for TV episodes to outnumber movies. If you look at iTunes, it even includes things like talk shows and soap operas, which generate hundreds of episodes per year (netflix doesn't seem to have these yet).
It's too bad NF doesn't have a way to search for just downloadable titles. Browsing through them, it seems to be far less than 10%. Some of that is probably because it's not - they list 100K disks, but their 10K number is movies and episodes. In their DVD numbers, the number of episodes/movies would be much higher since a TV disk typically contains 3-8 episodes.
The Watch It Now selection of TV shows is huge. There's 23 categories of TV shows from BBC to cartoons to drama to reality to politics and everything in between. In the TV crime drama section, there are 45 1-season offerings. They are Adam -12 (7 seasons), Kojak (5 seasons) Dragnet (3 seasons), Miami Vice (5 seasons), The Rockford Files (4 seasons), Dexter (1 season), Kennedy Criminoligist (1 season), Brotherhood (1 season), Law & Order SVU, CI, (7 and 3 seasons).
i think that's it without drilling any deeper. If you check out the 60's and 70's shows, they had like 26 episodes per season back then (confirmed with Dragnet), and modern shows probably have 20-22, so a little quick math, just for the TV Crime Show category they're offering 37 seasons of shows at an average of say 22 shows per season = 814 titles.
Wow, of the "10,000 titles" they're offering, over 8% are TV Crime shows, which is only one of 23 categories of TV shows, and honestly, looking at the selections listed above, it mostly Law & Order and 60s/70's television shows. Is this really quality content to drive you to the service if getting a Roku is what you have in mind (which is what I had in mind when getting the free trial)?
Checking out TV Action and Adventure, we have the following Must See TV series offered up: Knight Rider, Airwolf, The A-Team, Emergency, Xena, Hercules, Seaquest 2032, She Spies, Sleeper Cell, The Incredible Hulk, Simon & Simon, Conan, Pain Killer Jane, Heroes.
Only three of those shows are less than 10 years old, and most are from the 70s. Again, at an average of 22 episodes per season, and the 57 seasons of episodes offered in that list, we're looking at another 1,254 TV episodes in our 10,000 offered.
We're up to 20% of the offerings being old TV shows in just two categories.
Now, some of those old shows interest me for nostalgia's sake (Adam 12 was a favorite of mine as a kid, and was filmed in my neighborhood, so it's fun to look at how the neighborhoods have/have-not changed. But most of it is just crap in my opinion. YMMV.
The movie offerings seem to be older flicks.
Bottom line, you really can't judge the service in and of itself until you go through and look at it and see if the offerings interest you.
Someone said you can't search, but that's not true, type in the name of a TV show and it will bring it up.
Someone said you can't search, but that's not true, type in the name of a TV show and it will bring it up.
It looks like you can't search just the downloads, I only see one search box and it brings up all shows, download and dvd. Am I missing something?
Nice analysis. There's no question that the downloads in general favor older, less popular material. And lots of TV episodes.
Spliney thinks this... ...and this... ...are both toasters, so they must look the same.]
Now you're just being silly. The main point of my argument relies on the fact that both devices are often placed out of view. The Roku unit might as well look like a PC jr. For things that aren't in places where they can be admired, it's all about functionality. Case in point: the usage is bound to a remote. Toasters are certainly in places that allow them to be admired, and used directly.
Hmmm...not at home to check, but thinking through all the menus, I believe there is a way to put the TiVo into standby...If I recall correctly, under the settings menu, there's an option to place the unit in standby or restart it. I'd have to play with it to see if it impacts operation of the device. I don't know if it would put the thing to sleep until you turned it back on, or if it can wake itself up for recording suggestions. Either way, I'd wager most people don't know it's there since it's buried pretty deep in the menus. Also, if it won't wake up for suggestions/recording on its own, it defeats the whole purpose of TiVo.
Then that almost doesn't count if it's so hard to get to. Standby should be a red button on the remote. It shouldn't be hard to make a device that goes to standby / sleep when it's not in use, it's quite unfortunate if it can't.
Then that almost doesn't count if it's so hard to get to. Standby should be a red button on the remote. It shouldn't be hard to make a device that goes to standby / sleep when it's not in use, it's quite unfortunate if it can't.
Screw the environment! I use baby seals for fuel.
Seriously, if it's in standby it can't record shows. If you don't want to record anything then why not just turn it off completely.
Screw the environment! I use baby seals for fuel.
Seriously, if it's in standby it can't record shows. If you don't want to record anything then why not just turn it off completely.
The only way to turn a TiVo off is to unplug it. I just read on the TiVo forums that all standby mode does is turn off the OLED display.
edit:, but I just tried it and it also cuts off the video out signal to the TV. The recorder is still recording a suggestion, and one of the red LEDs that indicates a recording in progess is still on. I have no idea how much energy this saves like that; and I'll leave it to others to research further.
The only way to turn a TiVo off is to unplug it. I just read on the TiVo forums that all standby mode does is turn off the OLED display. What's the point of that? ;-)
There is no off button because it's not meant ot be turned off. It's like a Cable box with a DVR, the Off button turns off the output A/V signals but it needs to be on record shows.
As for the LED display, I guess not everyone likes to have them on.