iPhone 3G jailbreaking tool goes live

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  • Reply 41 of 86
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nagromme View Post


    That's exactly why I have wanted a "pocket Mac" for years. Also--what if a client HAS to have something done, and you don't have your laptop with you?



    Now, many of my tools will never run on an iPhone: Photoshop, Flash, and access to my whole hundreds of GB of archived project files. Yet the iPhone WILL do the trick VNC to the rescue! Mocha looks good, and TouchPad Pro looks good too (though it's not on the App Store yet). If I need to make an emergency logo change in Adobe Illustrator, iPhone + VNC will meet the need.



    I think doing simple CAD line drawings PC to PC on the same network with VNC is irritating enough, and you're thinking of running Illustrator from Phone to PC, presumably across different networks?



    I think that's a needlessly tedious way to go about it. I'd think you would be spending so much time panning around that it makes just bringing a notebook seem easier. Mocha VNC is sluggish on the same network (even for VNC), I'd hate to try to use it on a different network, having to try to connect over the internet.
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  • Reply 42 of 86
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Works. ...This is the crucial first step. The next step is the 3G baseband part. Then all hell will break loose. Well bloody done, DevTeam, 1 for 2. Let's go 2 for 2 in the next few weeks!



    I'm sick of these f***ing telcos. F*** their b*****t plans and contracts. It's 2008 and we are SLAVES to the mobile signal. The signal controls us. Fight the signal !!!!!!!!!
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  • Reply 43 of 86
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    ...Though the 3G iPhone is now jailbroken it longer has any connection to AT&T, but the original iPhone is jailbroken, unlocked and working perfectly on T-Mobile USandA



    Use expert Pwnage mode, see if you ticked "Activate" or something like that. Try it ticked and unticked. Maybe. Just a wild guess.
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  • Reply 44 of 86
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    Mobile me is not working on the iPhone for me right now, at all.



    I suggest you delete and do it manually for the time being. I like having contacts on my phone thank you very much.



    If you too are having the same issues, turn some of these switches off and check the boxes down the bottom of iTunes in the info tab (advanced). Should tied you over until Mobile-me finally works one day.







    After its done restoring, in iTunes select set up as new iPhone and you wont have the problems with mobileme not being able to push
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  • Reply 45 of 86
    Confirmed, visual voicemail works on an unlocked first gen iPhone on a carrier like Rogers or Fido

    Here is the proof:

    http://www.ehphone.ca/2008/07/visualvoicemail/



    Here's how to do it:

    1. Update your iPhone to firmware 2.0. You can follow the guide here:

    http://www.ehphone.ca/2008/07/pwnage/



    2. Call in to Rogers or Fido and add the $15 iPhone visual voicemail value pack.



    You will get Visual voicemail, caller id, and 2500 texts for this price.



    3. You should also have a data plan on your account because upgrading to 2.0 enables edge data. You can turn edge off, but I'm not sure if it will work then. You can try. I chose the $30 300mb plan as the $30 6gb technically cannot be added to a first gen iPhone.



    4. Enjoy almost all of the features of the iPhone 3G on your first gen iPhone!
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  • Reply 46 of 86
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Originally Posted by ruffdeezy View Post


    After its done restoring, in iTunes select set up as new iPhone and you wont have the problems with mobileme not being able to push



    Huh?.
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  • Reply 47 of 86
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ruffdeezy


    Call in to Rogers or Fido and add the $15 iPhone visual voicemail value pack.



    You will get Visual voicemail, caller id, and 2500 texts for this price.



    Sadly I don't think that's possible here in Ireland. Also pricey considering I wouldn't use the texts (2,500), need viasual voicemail as I always answer my phone, and I still need to make calls on the phone which they $15 doesn't cover.
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  • Reply 48 of 86
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ruffdeezy View Post


    After its done restoring, in iTunes select set up as new iPhone and you wont have the problems with mobileme not being able to push



    While I don't doubt that it worked for you after you did that, I see no reason why putting your settings back on the device wold prevent MM Pushing.
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  • Reply 49 of 86
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ruffdeezy View Post


    You will get Visual voicemail, caller id, and 2500 texts for this price.



    3. You should also have a data plan on your account because upgrading to 2.0 enables edge data. You can turn edge off, but I'm not sure if it will work then. You can try. I chose the $30 300mb plan as the $30 6gb technically cannot be added to a first gen iPhone.



    VV uses data so if you do this you better have a data package or pay the outrageous å la carte fees. Normal voicemail stores the message on the carriers' server which you call in to retrieve it send to you as audio. VV is sent and stored locally on your handset as data. In theory, I suppose Rogers could be be nice enough not to charge you for KBs of data sent for VV, but this is Rogers we're talking about.
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  • Reply 50 of 86
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    PwnageTool 2.0.1 is out. It still doesn't have Installer.app available or allow 3Gs to be unlocked but it fixes all the niggling issues yesterday's version had for many users. An impressive accomplishment for the timeframe.
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  • Reply 51 of 86
    matt_smatt_s Posts: 300member
    Unlocked iPhone 3G... it's pricey but it works.



    I wish Apple would stop strangling the market with their desire to control everything. US citizens have a legal right to have any phone unlocked; it's too bad Apple goes out of their way to intimidate and circumvent people who don't know what their legal rights are.
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  • Reply 52 of 86
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by matt_s View Post


    Unlocked iPhone 3G... it's pricey but it works.



    I wish Apple would stop strangling the market with their desire to control everything. US citizens have a legal right to have any phone unlocked; it's too bad Apple goes out of their way to intimidate and circumvent people who don't know what their legal rights are.



    There is a Hong Kongian company that is selling factory unlocked iPhone for $1000 USD. That plus the lack of an unlock has a put a damper on my plans as I sit with 2 extra iPhones sitting on my shelf.



    As for a legal right, I don't know of any law that forbids the locking of or requires telcos to unlock phones in the US and there is a long history of past present and future handsets that are tied to a carrier. I am under the impression that the iPhone is sold unlocked or unlockable by the carrier in every country that requires it legally. If you have a link stating otherwise, please post it.
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  • Reply 53 of 86
    matt_smatt_s Posts: 300member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    There is a Hong Kongian company that is selling factory unlocked iPhone for $1000 USD. That plus the lack of an unlock has a put a damper on my plans as I sit with 2 extra iPhones sitting on my shelf.



    As for a legal right, I don't know of any law that forbids the locking of or requires telcos to unlock phones in the US and there is a long history of past present and future handsets that are tied to a carrier. I am under the impression that the iPhone is sold unlocked or unlockable by the carrier in every country that requires it legally. If you have a link stating otherwise, please post it.

    "Exemptions are allowed for 1) the educational library of a university's media studies department, in order to watch film clips in class; 2) using computer software that requires the original disks or hardware in order to run; 3) dongle-protected computer programs, if the the dongle no longer functions and a replacement cannot be found; 4) protected e-books, in order to use screen-reader software; 5) cell phone firmware that ties a phone to a specific wireless network; and 6) DRM software included on audio CDs, but only when such software creates security vulnerabilities on personal computers.



    The provision likely to be of most interest to consumers is the one allowing cell phones to be unlocked and used on other networks. The Copyright Office allowed this exception because the software that prohibits users from accessing their phone's firmware has little to do with copyright and much to do with a business model."The underlying activity sought to be performed by the owner of the handset is to allow the handset to do what it was manufactured to do?lawfully connect to any carrier," writes the government in explanation. "This is a noninfringing activity by the user... The purpose of the software lock appears to be limited to restricting the owner?s use of the mobile handset to support a business model, rather than to protect access to a copyrighted work itself."
    Link here.
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  • Reply 54 of 86
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matt_s View Post
    "Exemptions are allowed for 1) the educational library of a university's media studies department, in order to watch film clips in class; 2) using computer software that requires the original disks or hardware in order to run; 3) dongle-protected computer programs, if the the dongle no longer functions and a replacement cannot be found; 4) protected e-books, in order to use screen-reader software; 5) cell phone firmware that ties a phone to a specific wireless network; and 6) DRM software included on audio CDs, but only when such software creates security vulnerabilities on personal computers.



    The provision likely to be of most interest to consumers is the one allowing cell phones to be unlocked and used on other networks. The Copyright Office allowed this exception because the software that prohibits users from accessing their phone's firmware has little to do with copyright and much to do with a business model."The underlying activity sought to be performed by the owner of the handset is to allow the handset to do what it was manufactured to do?lawfully connect to any carrier," writes the government in explanation. "This is a noninfringing activity by the user... The purpose of the software lock appears to be limited to restricting the owner?s use of the mobile handset to support a business model, rather than to protect access to a copyrighted work itself."
    Link here.



    Excellent! Thanks.
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  • Reply 55 of 86
    gregalexandergregalexander Posts: 1,401member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matthew Yohe View Post


    Yes, I know what the Pwnage Tool does, that's not what I'm asking.



    What will people use it for? Let me be a little more clear. With the App store out now, what will people really use a jailbroken iPhone for now? Is there a huge market for the "restricted" apps that Apple wont sell?



    For my brother, it's very simple. He bought the iPhone (edit: version 1 iPhone) for use in a country that didn't have an iPhone - so he was forced to unlock it. All the companies that do the unlock also jail break it ... so he has played with a few applications.



    He'd happily move to genuine v2.0 firmware, especially so that he doesn't have to worry about all the upgrade issues every time a slightly different firmware version comes out. But he has to make sure his phone continues to be unlocked.



    Can you or anyone suggest a better way for him to go?
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  • Reply 56 of 86
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GregAlexander View Post


    For my brother, it's very simple. He bought the iPhone for use in a country that didn't have an iPhone - so he was forced to unlock it. All the companies that do the unlock also jail break it ... so he has played with a few applications.



    He'd happily move to genuine v2.0 firmware, especially so that he doesn't have to worry about all the upgrade issues every time a slightly different firmware version comes out. But he has to make sure his phone continues to be unlocked.



    Can you or anyone suggest a better way for him to go?



    Has it been confirmed to be a carrier unlock rather than just a jailbreak? At the time of the article, it's not an unlocker yet.
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  • Reply 57 of 86
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GregAlexander View Post


    Can you or anyone suggest a better way for him to go?



    Going with a factory or carrier* unlocked handset is the only option. Of course, for most that is cost prohibitive to the time spent having to wait for the next unlock to appear.



    * As opposed to a user unlocked handset.
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  • Reply 58 of 86
    gregalexandergregalexander Posts: 1,401member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Going with a factory or carrier* unlocked handset is the only option. Of course, for most that is cost prohibitive to the time spent having to wait for the next unlock to appear.



    * As opposed to a user unlocked handset.



    Sorry, I don't understand.

    I asked if there was an alternative way to get v2.0 other than using the jailbreak . I saw no option for him as he has an original US iPhone running in Australia.



    Are you agreeing, and saying the only option is to buy a new iPhone?
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  • Reply 59 of 86
    gregalexandergregalexander Posts: 1,401member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post


    Has it been confirmed to be a carrier unlock rather than just a jailbreak? At the time of the article, it's not an unlocker yet.



    The article I read was pretty clear that it allows v1 iPhones to upgrade their software to v2 - while being jailbroken and unlocked.



    The article also said that the new 3G iPhones could not be unlocked yet.



    edit: sorry, didn't mean the tone that I got when rereading that.

    I meant to add something like.... "Who knows if the article I read was right, or if it's still right today...."
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  • Reply 60 of 86
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GregAlexander View Post


    Sorry, I don't understand.

    I asked if there was an alternative way to get v2.0 other than using the jailbreak . I saw no option for him as he has an original US iPhone running in Australia.



    Are you agreeing, and saying the only option is to buy a new iPhone?



    Yes, I'm agreeing with your assessment. The phone he has will only work outside of AT&T's network if jailbroken and unlocked himself with 3rd-party software. The only way to get the updates for the iPhone without first waiting for savvy hackers to crack it is to buy an iPhone that is factory unlocked, unlocked by a carrier in a country where that is required by law, or, in his case, buying a 3G iPhone from and Aussie carrier.
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