Looks like the application has been removed from the App Store. I won't buy an iPhone until they allow tethering!
If by they you mean Apple then you'll never have an iPhone. It's up to the carrier and, at least with AT&T, you sign a contract saying you won't use it for tethering.
I don't think that it's an unreasonable request. I paid $70/month for unlimited/unlimited cable and I pay $60/month for unlimited/unlimited internet for my notebook with AT&T. They only charge half that for unlimited/unlimited for their cellphones because they expect you to use it less than their data plans for computers, not more.
Don't get me wrong, it would be great to have free reign use but from a business perceptive the only way to allow that would be to charge you more for the month data service. People already complain about the $30/month for data, imagine what they'd do if AT&T charged $60 like their other plans? We'd be reading, "I shouldn't have to pay more because I don't plan on tethering my iPhone."
I can surf the web fine but I can't get any of my email accounts to work. I have three of them on different servers. I use Entourage for two and Apple Mail for the third. All of them give me strange errors. Can anyone send/receive email?
Just fine. Since yours are coming from different servers I'd try rebooting the device as it's clearly a localized issue.
Don't get me wrong, it would be great to have free reign use but from a business perceptive the only way to allow that would be to charge you more for the month data service. People already complain about the $30/month for data, imagine what they'd do if AT&T charged $60 like their other plans? We'd be reading, "I shouldn't have to pay more because I don't plan on tethering my iPhone."
Is it really a mutually exclusive thing? How is this handled with phones that do allow tethering? Don't they have some sort of flag that the carrier uses? It seems like this issue is already a solved problem, just not offered on iPhone.
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Netshare has been pulled - is there way I can load my copy in my iTunes to someone else's iPhone?
I don't think so, unless it's hacked, or this other person ties their phone to your iTunes account.
Is it really a mutually exclusive thing? How is this handled with phones that do allow tethering? Don't they have some sort of flag that the carrier uses? It seems like this issue is already a solved problem, just not offered on iPhone.
It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive as it's not an issue in many countries, but the US it seems to common among all major carriers. It may go overlooked if it's not a widespread issue but I think they all have a no-tethering clause like AT&T without requiring a more expensive data plan.
It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive as it's not an issue in many countries, but the US it seems to common among all major carriers. It may go overlooked if it's not a widespread issue but I think they all have a no-tethering clause like AT&T without requiring a more expensive data plan.
I don't think you've answered my question though. I understand the no-tethering clause, but my impression is that the same phone can be used with tethered and non-tethered plans. I'm curious exactly how that is done. It seems that there must be a way to prevent phones not on a tethered plan from tethering, but allowing the same model to be tethered if the user pays for the feature.
I don't think you've answered my question though. I understand the no-tethering clause, but my impression is that the same phone can be used with tethered and non-tethered plans. I'm curious exactly how that is done. It seems that there must be a way to prevent phones not on a tethered plan from tethering, but allowing the same model to be tethered if the user pays for the feature.
Oops, i didn't understand what you were asking. I don't know how they can tell or even if they can. There could be a marker in the phone OS that tells the network that it's being tethered but I doubt it. And if there were it could be easily removed with a simple jailbreak.
I do hope they have a way to tell or that illegal tethering doesn't become a problem as I really don't want to have usage caps and/or raised data rates to compensate. AT&T told the FCC last week that they will drop users from the network and potentially cancel their accounts if they are caught using P2P over their cell network. If I recall correctly, the FCC told them they can't and AT&T has yet to drop anyone for this.
It seems like these companies are only interested in "innovations" that increase the number of things a consumer has subscribe to. God forbid an innovation could actually be used to save the consumer money. It would be great to do away with the home internet contract entirely.
It seems like these companies are only interested in "innovations" that increase the number of things a consumer has subscribe to. God forbid an innovation could actually be used to save the consumer money. It would be great to do away with the home internet contract entirely.
Many in Europe and the Middle East are doing this already. I have friends that do not have a fixed connection at home. Currently, I only have a fixed line for DSL, with no home telephone service.
Has anyone figured out if it is possible to set this up to use the GSM network in the same manner that was possible with the 1st Gen iPhone?
This should work on any 3GSM or GPRS/EDGE phone network. On most networks your 3G device should seamlessly move between the two radio network technologies midcall and mid connection without dropping the call or changing your IP address.
Many of Hutchison's networks worldwide are the big exception. This is due to their expensive costs for their GPRS/EDGE access. Dropping out is more polite than getting $1650 per GB on your bill for silently handing over to EDGE data.
I need intructions on how to do it with my PC... I tried a few random things I thought were similar to the MAC but I cannot get it to work. Anybody have it working on a PC? lol I know everyone in this forum hates Microsoft I personally have no problem with them. So any help would be fantastic! I am not very computer savey and I need help! Thank you
Go to http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum...-pc-33683.html and scroll down the page to find written & video instructions. The instructions are for WindowsXP but can be modified for Vista [the settings are in a few different areas]. I was able to get it connected on my Vista laptop.
It seems like these companies are only interested in "innovations" that increase the number of things a consumer has subscribe to. God forbid an innovation could actually be used to save the consumer money. It would be great to do away with the home internet contract entirely.
and that is why I will download NetShare on "other sites" and use it. I will use what the 'H' I want to use on MY iPhone. (Even though I don't have one yet)
...you could pull over, wirelessly connect your MacBook to your iPhone's Internet connection using NetShare, email the file from the side of the road, and then continue on with your trip.
I could do what? Pull over?
Why shouldn't I just keep talking on the phone, drinking my Frappucino, and eating my double cheeseburger while I'm driving my SUV, setting up a network, sending the file, and texting my wife?
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Looks like the application has been removed from the App Store. I won't buy an iPhone until they allow tethering!
If by they you mean Apple then you'll never have an iPhone. It's up to the carrier and, at least with AT&T, you sign a contract saying you won't use it for tethering.
I don't think that it's an unreasonable request. I paid $70/month for unlimited/unlimited cable and I pay $60/month for unlimited/unlimited internet for my notebook with AT&T. They only charge half that for unlimited/unlimited for their cellphones because they expect you to use it less than their data plans for computers, not more.
Don't get me wrong, it would be great to have free reign use but from a business perceptive the only way to allow that would be to charge you more for the month data service. People already complain about the $30/month for data, imagine what they'd do if AT&T charged $60 like their other plans? We'd be reading, "I shouldn't have to pay more because I don't plan on tethering my iPhone."
I can surf the web fine but I can't get any of my email accounts to work. I have three of them on different servers. I use Entourage for two and Apple Mail for the third. All of them give me strange errors. Can anyone send/receive email?
Just fine. Since yours are coming from different servers I'd try rebooting the device as it's clearly a localized issue.
Don't get me wrong, it would be great to have free reign use but from a business perceptive the only way to allow that would be to charge you more for the month data service. People already complain about the $30/month for data, imagine what they'd do if AT&T charged $60 like their other plans? We'd be reading, "I shouldn't have to pay more because I don't plan on tethering my iPhone."
Is it really a mutually exclusive thing? How is this handled with phones that do allow tethering? Don't they have some sort of flag that the carrier uses? It seems like this issue is already a solved problem, just not offered on iPhone.
Netshare has been pulled - is there way I can load my copy in my iTunes to someone else's iPhone?
I don't think so, unless it's hacked, or this other person ties their phone to your iTunes account.
Is it really a mutually exclusive thing? How is this handled with phones that do allow tethering? Don't they have some sort of flag that the carrier uses? It seems like this issue is already a solved problem, just not offered on iPhone.
It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive as it's not an issue in many countries, but the US it seems to common among all major carriers. It may go overlooked if it's not a widespread issue but I think they all have a no-tethering clause like AT&T without requiring a more expensive data plan.
It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive as it's not an issue in many countries, but the US it seems to common among all major carriers. It may go overlooked if it's not a widespread issue but I think they all have a no-tethering clause like AT&T without requiring a more expensive data plan.
I don't think you've answered my question though. I understand the no-tethering clause, but my impression is that the same phone can be used with tethered and non-tethered plans. I'm curious exactly how that is done. It seems that there must be a way to prevent phones not on a tethered plan from tethering, but allowing the same model to be tethered if the user pays for the feature.
I don't think you've answered my question though. I understand the no-tethering clause, but my impression is that the same phone can be used with tethered and non-tethered plans. I'm curious exactly how that is done. It seems that there must be a way to prevent phones not on a tethered plan from tethering, but allowing the same model to be tethered if the user pays for the feature.
Oops, i didn't understand what you were asking. I don't know how they can tell or even if they can. There could be a marker in the phone OS that tells the network that it's being tethered but I doubt it. And if there were it could be easily removed with a simple jailbreak.
I do hope they have a way to tell or that illegal tethering doesn't become a problem as I really don't want to have usage caps and/or raised data rates to compensate. AT&T told the FCC last week that they will drop users from the network and potentially cancel their accounts if they are caught using P2P over their cell network. If I recall correctly, the FCC told them they can't and AT&T has yet to drop anyone for this.
It seems like these companies are only interested in "innovations" that increase the number of things a consumer has subscribe to. God forbid an innovation could actually be used to save the consumer money. It would be great to do away with the home internet contract entirely.
Many in Europe and the Middle East are doing this already. I have friends that do not have a fixed connection at home. Currently, I only have a fixed line for DSL, with no home telephone service.
Has anyone figured out if it is possible to set this up to use the GSM network in the same manner that was possible with the 1st Gen iPhone?
This should work on any 3GSM or GPRS/EDGE phone network. On most networks your 3G device should seamlessly move between the two radio network technologies midcall and mid connection without dropping the call or changing your IP address.
Many of Hutchison's networks worldwide are the big exception. This is due to their expensive costs for their GPRS/EDGE access. Dropping out is more polite than getting $1650 per GB on your bill for silently handing over to EDGE data.
I need intructions on how to do it with my PC... I tried a few random things I thought were similar to the MAC but I cannot get it to work. Anybody have it working on a PC? lol I know everyone in this forum hates Microsoft I personally have no problem with them. So any help would be fantastic! I am not very computer savey and I need help! Thank you
Go to http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum...-pc-33683.html and scroll down the page to find written & video instructions. The instructions are for WindowsXP but can be modified for Vista [the settings are in a few different areas]. I was able to get it connected on my Vista laptop.
It seems like these companies are only interested in "innovations" that increase the number of things a consumer has subscribe to. God forbid an innovation could actually be used to save the consumer money. It would be great to do away with the home internet contract entirely.
and that is why I will download NetShare on "other sites" and use it. I will use what the 'H' I want to use on MY iPhone. (Even though I don't have one yet)
...you could pull over, wirelessly connect your MacBook to your iPhone's Internet connection using NetShare, email the file from the side of the road, and then continue on with your trip.
I could do what? Pull over?
Why shouldn't I just keep talking on the phone, drinking my Frappucino, and eating my double cheeseburger while I'm driving my SUV, setting up a network, sending the file, and texting my wife?