Seen any problems going from 10.1.5 to 10.2?

chopper3

I was wondering if there were any problems out there, i.e.;



Wacom, Intellimouse, CiscoVPN, Toast, Office, Vuescan, AIM, suitcase, personal setting like fonts+screensavers+icons.



Will I be able to just upgrade or will it make REAL sense to wipe'n'rebuild?



Thanks.



Phil.



p.s. How's printing now?

thereubster

Printings much faster... dont use other stuff much sorry

nagha

I recently upgraded to build 98 and haven't had any problems. my personal settings and user accounts all carried over just fine.



Office works without any problems. I've tested Word, Entourage and PowerPoint.



Toast also works but doesn't seem to recognize my CD. I think this is a problem with my build of 10.2 not recognizing my CD burner - 10.1.x always recognized it so I don't see why this won't be the case in 10.2.



AIM - why bother? you have iChat.



na

xaqtly

Toast, Office, Suitcase all work fine in 10.2. AIM client - use iChat.I haven't tried the others. I'm using build 6C113. Printing kicks ass now.

ghost_user_name

The AIM client is unreliable in the golden master (6C115). I'd try out iChat, it really isn't all that bad



I mean, so I hear this is the case. Hypothetically...

mount_my_floppy

The only problem i have seen in 10.2 6c106 is that mysql isnt working other then that everything works just fine

jll

[quote]Originally posted by Chopper3:

<strong>I was wondering if there were any problems out there, i.e.;



Wacom, Intellimouse, CiscoVPN, Toast, Office, Vuescan, AIM, suitcase, personal setting like fonts+screensavers+icons.



Will I be able to just upgrade or will it make REAL sense to wipe'n'rebuild?



Thanks.



Phil.



p.s. How's printing now?</strong><hr></blockquote>





CiscoVPN doesn't work.

aquatic

Will 3rd parties hacks/"haxies" from Unsanity, like Winshade X and Fruitmenu, or TinkerTool, cause problems? Will they need to be updated for Jag?

ghost_user_name

[quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

<strong>Will 3rd parties hacks/"haxies" from Unsanity, like Winshade X and Fruitmenu, or TinkerTool, cause problems? Will they need to be updated for Jag?</strong><hr></blockquote>

TinkerTool is not a hack. It simply gives you access to options that Apple didn't put a GUI in for. Yes, you should get the updated version for Jagwire.



Unsanity's hacks, however, are extremely buggy, unreliable, and crash-prone in Jagwire. They will probably have to re-hack them to work.

aquatic

Thanks Starfleet X, um, I mean Brad

aquatic

So we should remove them? Wait a minute, how do we uninstall programs! :eek: I've never done this in OS X! I feel like a Windows user all of a sudden...

ghost_user_name

[quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

<strong>Wait a minute, how do we uninstall programs! :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>LOL! It's shokingly simple.



I made a 1 MB tutorial movie some time ago explaining the uninstall process (works on 99% of the apps, otherwise the app will come with a special uninstaller).



watch here:

<a href="http://brad.project-think.com/movies/FinderSnap003.mov"; target="_blank">http://brad.project-think.com/movies/FinderSnap003.mov</a>;







In the case of your haxies, they are probably located at ~/Library/PreferencePanes.

aquatic

Hot Damn that's a nice scheme! I like your iTunes icon too



I don't believe hacks would uninstall that easily! I mean in theory it sounds great, but look at the IE 5.2 installer. It seems like no one follows the OS X rules when they make programs I mean many companies don't use packages. Which I have come to REALLY like. I will investigate Unsanity's haxies on their site. I will report my uninstallations and switch to Jaguar. Though maybe I'll let the brave MacFixIt Readers figure it first

mount_my_floppy

Also in BBEdit if you try and click on a window in the application you just click through it instead i dont know why it would do that but what ever guess i will just have to use dreamweaver.

ghost_user_name

[quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

<strong>I don't believe hacks would uninstall that easily!</strong><hr></blockquote>No, trust me. Unnsanity's haxies ARE just that easy to uninstall.



I've done it myself. How else would I know they don't work in 10.2?

barto

Brad, can you give me the name of the theme you are using in the Deleting IE movie?



I have to have that theme!



Barto

ghost_user_name

&lt;off-topic&gt;



Actually, that was THE first theme for Mac OS X... I started it back in the Public Beta days. Long before Sprocket or Theme Machine or whatever new-fangled things they have now.



Back when men were men and X was slow. I mean REALLY slow. Ah, the good old days. But I digress.



I updated it for 10.0 and mailed it of to a few dozen people, but never got around to updating it for 10.1. It seems a few others have expressed an interest in it; so, I might bring it back to 10.2.



&lt;/off-topic&gt;



Back on topic, anyone using a "theme" on Mac OS X should be EXTREMELY CAREFUL before considering putting a "theme" on Jaguar. Many things have changed since 10.1 and the old themes will seriously cripple your computer. Developers will simply have to update their files before redistributing for Jaguar.

aquatic

Very creative Brad. It has hints of Sosumi (hehe.) Didn't SnWave do that?



I think it would've been helpful if Steve had taken 10 seconds and explained the new numbering, mentioning 10.2 is what we're used to seeing as 10.5. Maybe there wouldn't even be the mass virtual riots over pricing Nah, people always have to bitch about something. But since he said he had a "long keynote" with "lots to talk about."... Man when I heard those words... <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> ...Would've been worthwhile to mention. It's not too late either...



Jaguar is quite a new beast. I think next revision should be Snow Leopard! :cool: (: Cool :, geddit? Ok it's late. )

ghost_user_name

[quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

<strong>Very creative Brad. It has hints of Sosumi (hehe.) Didn't SnWave do that?</strong><hr></blockquote>Actually, I had a long discussion with him about his theme copying mine, because Sosumi didn't come out until many months later. [quote]<strong>I think next revision should be Snow Leopard!</strong><hr></blockquote>Actually, it's already been noted that the next version's code name it Pinot. The "correct" French pronunciation is pee-NO. I wonder what Steve will call it... "pie-not"?







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leonis

[quote]Originally posted by Brad:

<strong>LOL! It's shokingly simple.



I made a 1 MB tutorial movie some time ago explaining the uninstall process (works on 99% of the apps, otherwise the app will come with a special uninstaller).



watch here:

<a href="http://brad.project-think.com/movies/FinderSnap003.mov"; target="_blank">http://brad.project-think.com/movies/FinderSnap003.mov</a>;





</strong><hr></blockquote>



WOW! That's difficult! :eek: <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

leonis

Oh by the way......Brad or anyone who uses Jaguar...



Could you tell me which (whatever you have) apps don't work?