I used to get over 40mpg on the highway with my 90 civic and here we are today and the brand new civic is listed at 34mpg (http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/hond...chlanding.html) - wth?!?! it's 18 years later and the fuel economy has actually become WORSE?!?!
Anyway - aside from searching in Safari what would you be searching for? (I really am curious, I can't think of any application other than that).
Searching through Mail would be the big obvious one. It's really inconvenient to not be able to quickly find an old email I've filed away on the iPhone. Global search is probably the iPhone's biggest missing feature (along with cut and paste).
this is really pitiful - only 1 gig of memory? that gets rid of the $20 of savings. Besides, the phone looks like a clunker - and moving parts are never good.
He wrote "tounge in cheek" before and after that post - maybe you should google what that means!
Anways, lots of the fanboys immediately bashing Android, that's no surprise.
The best part about Android is that it's open-source, and will soon be on a ton of different handsets, so folks won't have to wait for apple to improve the interface (no cut and paste for a year, mail functions spotty at best, also one year and counting), and won't have to pay $3000 over the life of the contract for this interface. I'm waiting for FLAC support in Android, which will be the deal-breaker for me.
this is really pitiful - only 1 gig of memory? that gets rid of the $20 of savings. Besides, the phone looks like a clunker - and moving parts are never good.
I agree. I thought the iPhone would spell the end of phones with barely enough memory to hold contacts and notes. There's simply no excuse for any smart phone not to have at least 8 GB built in at this point.
And don't give me that crap about memory cards. Who wants to a)carry around spare cards, b) remember which card has the files I want, c) play around with swapping them in and out all the time? Even if you add just one large card and leave it in, you instantly up the price of the device beyond the iPhone.
With today's RAM prices, there's no excuse for 1GB.
You've gotta be kidding. All phones are missing features, and ALL other mobile players should be worried...yes APPLE included.
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Originally Posted by Hattig
The iPhone doesn't have anything to worry about.
BlackBerry doesn't have anything to worry about.
Windows Mobile has everything to worry about, because this OS will kill off any hopes they had of expanding into the consumer market, and BlackBerry and now iPhone are eating their business market.
Symbian will probably keep on ticking but I personally feel as if the writing is on the wall, in the long term.
Android is still clearly a very young mobile phone OS, so it is lacking features (cut and paste aside) and shine. I think we should revisit in a year's time to see how they're doing, and what their choices (background apps on a memory, cpu and especially battery limited device!) result in.
He wrote "tounge in cheek" before and after that post - maybe you should google what that means!
Anways, lots of the fanboys immediately bashing Android, that's no surprise.
The best part about Android is that it's open-source, and will soon be on a ton of different handsets, so folks won't have to wait for apple to improve the interface (no cut and paste for a year, mail functions spotty at best, also one year and counting), and won't have to pay $3000 over the life of the contract for this interface. I'm waiting for FLAC support in Android, which will be the deal-breaker for me.
thank you for being so smart and pointing that out to me - I fully understand what tongue in cheek means. Maybe you should have noticed that my post was not a response to that post but was a completely independent comment. Fan boy- is that supposed to be an insult? I may be one, but I also don't own an iPhone.
Can you find where in my post that I attacked android? Yah, I didn't. I attacked 1gig of memory. To me, this seems like the thing all the other companies cut out of their phone to make it "cheaper" than the iPhone. Once you have to buy that memory, the phone becomes more expensive - simple as that.
BTW - I know a good 4th grade teacher if you need one :-)
Eh well, at least this gets more people away from Windoze Mobile right?
Good, so now the consumer that stiil is on the fence about the iPhone will decide between an Android Gooaphone, Blackberry or an iPhone? The rest of them can kiss their asses goodbye.
The iPhone believe it or not is only in it?s infancy ( 1year?)it will develop into a staple that everyone can build (customize) to fit their fancy or need,just by downloading their software of choice. The iphone developer kit is OSX which is solid and proven and has a massive happy developer base. The iPhone will reign supreme for at least the next 4 years and will become as ubiquitous as the walkman the iPod etc?
Searching through Mail would be the big obvious one. It's really inconvenient to not be able to quickly find an old email I've filed away on the iPhone. Global search is probably the iPhone's biggest missing feature (along with cut and paste).
So why do they call it "global" I understand the search application for Contacts, Safari and Mail (and I suppose Notes if anybody even uses those for any real purpose, only time I've ever used it is for grocery list). Is the goal to search for John Smith and get a Spotlight-esque window that shows John Smith the contact, his home page and a list of the 5 last emails you got from him?
Well, actually, now that I think about it a Spotlight-eqsue search would be kind of cool. Ok, I'm on board!
Good, so now the consumer that stiil is on the fence about the iPhone will decide between an Android Gooaphone, Blackberry or an iPhone? The rest of them can kiss their asses goodbye.
The iPhone believe it or not is only in it?s infancy ( 1year?)it will develop into a staple that everyone can build (customize) to fit their fancy or need,just by downloading their software of choice. The iphone developer kit is OSX which is solid and proven and has a massive happy developer base. The iPhone will reign supreme for at least the next 4 years and will become as ubiquitous as the walkman the iPod etc?
I'd say that's a little too optimistic. I think there will be enough iPhonys running around that Apple won't rule the market. Apple may be the inspirer of innovation in the sector but I don't think they are going to "reign supreme" in any sort of the way. When it comes to phones it's not quite as cut and dry as mp3 players or CD players. People have needs and wants when it comes to phones and despite how awesome the iPhone may be there are some people who won't accept a touch screen until it's the only option and won't accept the candy-bar form factor until it's the only choice.
The iPhone will certainly make a dent but it's going to be a long time until they exceed RIM's userbase.
Well I said user base - not new sales. The apple user base is much higher than their % of new sales.
Of course the iPhone is being bought mostly by people who didn't own "smart phones" before so it's less about RIM losing customers and the iPhone expanding the "smart phone" category.
once I see that an app that simulates Fart Sounds is available on the Android Market, I'm getting rid of my iPhone which is bound to the App Store where someone's definition of good taste rules.
I feel oppressed that I cannot get a fart sound app!
By the way, shouldn't the guy who kept referring to the Android Market as "the App Store" be sued for misusing Apple's trademark?
If it were not for the fact that I dislike T-Mobile (and AT&T for that matter) both my wife and I like all features a great deal. The GUI needs refinement, but the other aspects have my wife wanting to purchase one, and I would too, but no T-Mobile for this family.
as an open-source OS, I'm sure it will be hacked in no time...
Just look at how fast the iphone hacks were released on a closed OS.
That is a really crappy looking phone, but not bad for a first attempt.
iPhone has nothing to worry about. Microsoft has everything to worry about.
This was a sad and retarded attempt to take a stab at microsoft. Anyway back to the post... you know trying to just keep these comments relevant to the story. I think the phone definitley needs work. I am excited to see what the next phone will be like because I don't like the memory card thing although it is not that big of deal. I also don't like that there isn't a headphone jack and there are a few other features it lacks. I am very eager to get rid of my iphone due to its lack of basic function but the G1 still is missing some things I would love to have in a phone.
P.S. a dream come true would be if apple added every feature of the g1 that the iphone doesn't have. "Copy/Paste, MMS, Street view, an actual backround for the desktop itself, allowing it view microsoft documents and PDF, all the bluetooth capabilities the iPhone lacks, and the 3.1 megapixel camera"... wow I do love all those features.. I don't know I will definitely have to play with a G1 when they come out.
::NOTE:: Oh and maybe the G1's chrome browser will not crash all the time like iPhone's Safari.
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I used to get over 40mpg on the highway with my 90 civic and here we are today and the brand new civic is listed at 34mpg (http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/hond...chlanding.html) - wth?!?! it's 18 years later and the fuel economy has actually become WORSE?!?!
Anyway - aside from searching in Safari what would you be searching for? (I really am curious, I can't think of any application other than that).
Searching through Mail would be the big obvious one. It's really inconvenient to not be able to quickly find an old email I've filed away on the iPhone. Global search is probably the iPhone's biggest missing feature (along with cut and paste).
this is really pitiful - only 1 gig of memory? that gets rid of the $20 of savings. Besides, the phone looks like a clunker - and moving parts are never good.
He wrote "tounge in cheek" before and after that post - maybe you should google what that means!
Anways, lots of the fanboys immediately bashing Android, that's no surprise.
The best part about Android is that it's open-source, and will soon be on a ton of different handsets, so folks won't have to wait for apple to improve the interface (no cut and paste for a year, mail functions spotty at best, also one year and counting), and won't have to pay $3000 over the life of the contract for this interface. I'm waiting for FLAC support in Android, which will be the deal-breaker for me.
this is really pitiful - only 1 gig of memory? that gets rid of the $20 of savings. Besides, the phone looks like a clunker - and moving parts are never good.
I agree. I thought the iPhone would spell the end of phones with barely enough memory to hold contacts and notes. There's simply no excuse for any smart phone not to have at least 8 GB built in at this point.
And don't give me that crap about memory cards. Who wants to a)carry around spare cards, b) remember which card has the files I want, c) play around with swapping them in and out all the time? Even if you add just one large card and leave it in, you instantly up the price of the device beyond the iPhone.
With today's RAM prices, there's no excuse for 1GB.
The iPhone doesn't have anything to worry about.
BlackBerry doesn't have anything to worry about.
Windows Mobile has everything to worry about, because this OS will kill off any hopes they had of expanding into the consumer market, and BlackBerry and now iPhone are eating their business market.
Symbian will probably keep on ticking but I personally feel as if the writing is on the wall, in the long term.
Android is still clearly a very young mobile phone OS, so it is lacking features (cut and paste aside) and shine. I think we should revisit in a year's time to see how they're doing, and what their choices (background apps on a memory, cpu and especially battery limited device!) result in.
He wrote "tounge in cheek" before and after that post - maybe you should google what that means!
Anways, lots of the fanboys immediately bashing Android, that's no surprise.
The best part about Android is that it's open-source, and will soon be on a ton of different handsets, so folks won't have to wait for apple to improve the interface (no cut and paste for a year, mail functions spotty at best, also one year and counting), and won't have to pay $3000 over the life of the contract for this interface. I'm waiting for FLAC support in Android, which will be the deal-breaker for me.
thank you for being so smart and pointing that out to me - I fully understand what tongue in cheek means. Maybe you should have noticed that my post was not a response to that post but was a completely independent comment. Fan boy- is that supposed to be an insult? I may be one, but I also don't own an iPhone.
Can you find where in my post that I attacked android? Yah, I didn't. I attacked 1gig of memory. To me, this seems like the thing all the other companies cut out of their phone to make it "cheaper" than the iPhone. Once you have to buy that memory, the phone becomes more expensive - simple as that.
BTW - I know a good 4th grade teacher if you need one :-)
[tongue in cheek]
It doesn't work with Exchange and it doesn't support flash.
It only has 1 gig of memory and you need to buy another battery.
Forget it, nobody will buy it.
[/tongue in cheek]
My friend works at Google. She will buy it.
Eh well, at least this gets more people away from Windoze Mobile right?
Good, so now the consumer that stiil is on the fence about the iPhone will decide between an Android Gooaphone, Blackberry or an iPhone? The rest of them can kiss their asses goodbye.
The iPhone believe it or not is only in it?s infancy ( 1year?)it will develop into a staple that everyone can build (customize) to fit their fancy or need,just by downloading their software of choice. The iphone developer kit is OSX which is solid and proven and has a massive happy developer base. The iPhone will reign supreme for at least the next 4 years and will become as ubiquitous as the walkman the iPod etc?
Searching through Mail would be the big obvious one. It's really inconvenient to not be able to quickly find an old email I've filed away on the iPhone. Global search is probably the iPhone's biggest missing feature (along with cut and paste).
So why do they call it "global" I understand the search application for Contacts, Safari and Mail (and I suppose Notes if anybody even uses those for any real purpose, only time I've ever used it is for grocery list). Is the goal to search for John Smith and get a Spotlight-esque window that shows John Smith the contact, his home page and a list of the 5 last emails you got from him?
Well, actually, now that I think about it a Spotlight-eqsue search would be kind of cool. Ok, I'm on board!
Good, so now the consumer that stiil is on the fence about the iPhone will decide between an Android Gooaphone, Blackberry or an iPhone? The rest of them can kiss their asses goodbye.
The iPhone believe it or not is only in it?s infancy ( 1year?)it will develop into a staple that everyone can build (customize) to fit their fancy or need,just by downloading their software of choice. The iphone developer kit is OSX which is solid and proven and has a massive happy developer base. The iPhone will reign supreme for at least the next 4 years and will become as ubiquitous as the walkman the iPod etc?
I'd say that's a little too optimistic. I think there will be enough iPhonys running around that Apple won't rule the market. Apple may be the inspirer of innovation in the sector but I don't think they are going to "reign supreme" in any sort of the way. When it comes to phones it's not quite as cut and dry as mp3 players or CD players. People have needs and wants when it comes to phones and despite how awesome the iPhone may be there are some people who won't accept a touch screen until it's the only option and won't accept the candy-bar form factor until it's the only choice.
The iPhone will certainly make a dent but it's going to be a long time until they exceed RIM's userbase.
My friend works at Google. She will buy it.
Is that why people call it the Google phone?
Only people from Google, willing to pay the same amount as other phones but have 3G service from T-Mobile available.....will buy it?
PS:The tongue in cheek part had nothing to do with the feature limitations.
I do know some people will buy it.
But it is 1 gig out of the box, doesn't work with exchange, and doesn't support flash.
All of those things were complete non-starters for a lot of postings about the iPhone.
The real selling point, and the only one I see, is the thing works on only one carrier with limited 3G service.
If you have that carrier, in an area with 3G..... it's better than the iPhone no matter what else.
That's NOT a lot of people......
The iPhone will certainly make a dent but it's going to be a long time until they exceed RIM's userbase.
Yup.
It's going to take a long time.
Could take close to a year!
Yup.
It's going to take a long time.
Could take close to a year!
Well I said user base - not new sales. The apple user base is much higher than their % of new sales.
Of course the iPhone is being bought mostly by people who didn't own "smart phones" before so it's less about RIM losing customers and the iPhone expanding the "smart phone" category.
I feel oppressed that I cannot get a fart sound app!
By the way, shouldn't the guy who kept referring to the Android Market as "the App Store" be sued for misusing Apple's trademark?
Well I said user base - not new sales. The apple user base is much higher than their % of new sales.
I said user base, not new sales.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZHgZr3SXCA
Thinking Different, it is.
I said user base, not new sales.
well I'd like to know what kind of Kool-Aid you're drinking then because it's going to take much, much longer than 1 year to eclipse RIM's user base.
well I'd like to know what kind of Kool-Aid you're drinking then because it's going to take much, much longer than 1 year to eclipse RIM's user base.
Just exactly how many subscription users do you think RIM has anyway?
If it were not for the fact that I dislike T-Mobile (and AT&T for that matter) both my wife and I like all features a great deal. The GUI needs refinement, but the other aspects have my wife wanting to purchase one, and I would too, but no T-Mobile for this family.
as an open-source OS, I'm sure it will be hacked in no time...
Just look at how fast the iphone hacks were released on a closed OS.
That is a really crappy looking phone, but not bad for a first attempt.
iPhone has nothing to worry about. Microsoft has everything to worry about.
This was a sad and retarded attempt to take a stab at microsoft. Anyway back to the post... you know trying to just keep these comments relevant to the story. I think the phone definitley needs work. I am excited to see what the next phone will be like because I don't like the memory card thing although it is not that big of deal. I also don't like that there isn't a headphone jack and there are a few other features it lacks. I am very eager to get rid of my iphone due to its lack of basic function but the G1 still is missing some things I would love to have in a phone.
P.S. a dream come true would be if apple added every feature of the g1 that the iphone doesn't have. "Copy/Paste, MMS, Street view, an actual backround for the desktop itself, allowing it view microsoft documents and PDF, all the bluetooth capabilities the iPhone lacks, and the 3.1 megapixel camera"... wow I do love all those features.. I don't know I will definitely have to play with a G1 when they come out.
::NOTE:: Oh and maybe the G1's chrome browser will not crash all the time like iPhone's Safari.