Over at macnn they have just linked a released document by Epson that refers to the compatability issues of a new release printer to different Macs....these included the G3/G4/G5 and cube...
It was pulled almost as soon as it was linked to...
<strong>Over at macnn they have just linked a released document by Epson that refers to the compatability issues of a new release printer to different Macs....these included the G3/G4/G5 and cube...
It was pulled almost as soon as it was linked to...
Marc</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wonder if that is any more reliable than my Epson printer?
Epson has referenced the Power Mac G5 on its Swedish site, stating that its new series of laser printers are compatible with the "Apple iMac (and the) Apple G3/G4/G5/Cube (O.S 8.1 or later)." The company was not available to comment on whether the posting is an error, or a slip of confidential information.
Epson has referenced the Power Mac G5 on its Swedish site, stating that its new series of laser printers are compatible with the "Apple iMac (and the) Apple G3/G4/G5/Cube (O.S 8.1 or later)." The company was not available to comment on whether the posting is an error, or a slip of confidential information.
I have to say that this is somewhat more compelling than the Vuescan thing. Hmmmm. Optimism. Strange sensation, but quite agreeable.
Some speculation about the prospect of seeing a G5 soonish: this thread seems as suitable as any.
I seem to recall a Motorola insider on the old AI boards admitting that Moto screwed up on the G4 by attempting to run a new design and a new process at once. They've learnt their lesson, he said: never again.
Whether or not this was a genuine insider, commonsense suggests that Motorola would indeed be foolish to attempt to both a new process and a new design at once. As we know:
Apollo = new process
G5 = new design
So it makes sense to think that the Apollo and G5 will not come out together. Suppose that they don't. We're accustomed to relatively incremental speed increases, so this would lead us to expect Apollo first, right?
But we can't rule out the prospect that the G5 might be ready before the new process. So we might indeed find that we get G5s sooner rather than later, but without the SOI goodness we expected.
That is, of course, unless someone else (IBM?) fabs the G5 instead....
Just want to gets some facts into this "G5 is here!" party...
The epson page wasn't pulled at all (as of now) but the person who reported the news just messed up the URL.. I know everyone (including me) would love to hear that the G5 is shipping but all signs still point to a G4 speedbump sometime over the next month or so... I wish/hope I'm wrong about this but the G5 release in the fall is what I'm betting my money on.
I wonder if that is any more reliable than my Epson printer?</strong><hr></blockquote>
ROTFL.
This Swedish page is for the EPL-5800, which is remarkably similar to my "bondi" EPL-5700i, that was sold specifically to go with the iMacs. Ironically, there are still no OS X drivers for these printers, even though a Power Mac G5, if we were really going to see such a thing anytime soon, would boot into OS X by default.
I stopped getting my hopes up on careless typos a long time ago.
On <a href="http://www.architosh.com"; target="_blank">web page</a> you can see that that their rumor source and common sense are right . G5 is comming and those so much talked about G4 apollo are for the next generation iMacs( rev b). Who will get this new PPC in the summer or sooner, but that's notpossible i guess.
On <a href="http://www.architosh.com"; target="_blank">Architosh</a> you can see that that their rumor source and common sense are right . G5 is comming and those so much talked about G4 apollo are for the next generation iMacs( rev b). Who will get this new PPC in the summer or sooner, but that's not possible i guess.
G5 are going to be announced soon!! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Of course there is no guarantee that even if Apple ships a "G5" it isn't just a re-badged Apollo. They've done silly things before -- like hyping MWSF'02 for a week on their home page.
Either way though, it bodes well for the next month or two. Unless Epson is thinking WAY ahead.
Please note that VueScan/G5 (for the PowerPC G5 processor) is a separate product and will be sold via other channels. The above download will not work with the PowerPC G5 processor. (We have no inside information about the availability of PowerPC G5 processors in future Apple products, but it's clear that these products will be available in the near future.)" :eek:
On a (related?) side note, Epson today "accidentally" mentioned the G5 on their site... this is Epson, not some (arguably) desperate-for-attention-shareware-developer, so you can be sure that it was either a typo or an accidental leak. We saved this link, which should direct you to the page. If not, here's a quote we snapped up:
"EPL-5800 - A4-skrivare med skrivhastighet 10 sid/min och ett papperskassett fšr 150 ark. Standard utrustade EPL-5800 kan kopplas till Apple iMac och Apple G3/G4/G5/Cube (O.S 8.1 eller hšgre) direkt frŒn ur lŒdan med den sŒ kallade "Quickdraw driver", via USB. Det finns dock inget stšd fšr PostScript fonter eller EPS filer"
Could this be what is being released?
Know something about it? Let us know.
Update (01/11/02 9:40 A.M.): The Epson page was made in 2000...
The G5 has been mentioned at Amiga's web site and now at Epson's. Its also mentioned in the "Kate and Leopold" movie now playing. I don't think these are typo's or mistakes but signs that its on its way.
While I'm still not going to place myself in the G5 camp just yet one thing I do know..
WinTel hardware is much more important than Mac (sad but true) WinTel doesn't play silly games like "Guess what we are gonna do next.. ala Jobs and Company" (sorry but it is pretty silly if you ask me).
If Epson DID have G5 systems for testing (and that would be a really big if) I can see how they might not think twice about putting a spec sheet out that said G5 compatible. After all most of these companies deal with Intel stuff most of the day and Intel keeps it's cards open as to what they are doing in the future (for the most part).
Us Mac heads might know it's a BOZO-NO-NO to pre-announce stuff from Apple but much of the PC oriented world might not.
<strong>WinTel hardware is much more important than Mac (sad but true) WinTel doesn't play silly games like "Guess what we are gonna do next.. ala Jobs and Company" (sorry but it is pretty silly if you ask me).
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
well, i can't say i totally disagree, but remember that apple is fighting from the 5%-or-less sector, so they have a pretty hard time battling against the 800 lb. gorilla of intel/amd/microsoft/dell... they must figure a well-hyped macworld announcement is worth two comdexs (comdecies?).
plus, apple can't use the "thow everything at a wall and see what sticks" philosophy that those others players can... each ad must be perfect, since it's probably a greater percentage of their overall budget for such things. sure, they've got a lot of cash, but not when you compare it to microsoft's bottomless pit o' gold.
anyway, even if the g5 isn't ready yet, i suggest apple better start squelching rumors fast, because now it's been mentioned from a shareware developer (hamrick has been around for a while, and lots of folks -- not me -- swear by his scan software), epson (it sure doesn't LOOK like a typo), and during the post-macworld interview, where steve was asked point-blank about the existence of the g5, to which he countered with the "i can't talk about future hardware" comment. but that put the term "g5" in the mainstream on cnn, albeit briefly...
pandora's box may not be open, but it's starting to bust at the seams.
Re-read my post above.... spymac is now reporting that the Epson page mentioning the G5 was posted in the year 2000, meaning that they almost certainly DID NOT have knowledge of the G5 processor at the time that page was posted. It may have been purely speculative (well, let's see... Motorola did a G3 and then a G4, so what's next?) but if the page really did appear in 2000, it doesn't indicate Epson had/has inside knowledge of actual G5 chips.
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<strong>Over at macnn they have just linked a released document by Epson that refers to the compatability issues of a new release printer to different Macs....these included the G3/G4/G5 and cube...
It was pulled almost as soon as it was linked to...
Marc</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wonder if that is any more reliable than my Epson printer?
The above is link to the page. It sure doesn't look like a typo
Marc
[ 01-11-2002: Message edited by: Marcus ]</p>
This new article is justa confirmation. A nice on too.
Some speculation about the prospect of seeing a G5 soonish: this thread seems as suitable as any.
I seem to recall a Motorola insider on the old AI boards admitting that Moto screwed up on the G4 by attempting to run a new design and a new process at once. They've learnt their lesson, he said: never again.
Whether or not this was a genuine insider, commonsense suggests that Motorola would indeed be foolish to attempt to both a new process and a new design at once. As we know:
Apollo = new process
G5 = new design
So it makes sense to think that the Apollo and G5 will not come out together. Suppose that they don't. We're accustomed to relatively incremental speed increases, so this would lead us to expect Apollo first, right?
But we can't rule out the prospect that the G5 might be ready before the new process. So we might indeed find that we get G5s sooner rather than later, but without the SOI goodness we expected.
That is, of course, unless someone else (IBM?) fabs the G5 instead....
The epson page wasn't pulled at all (as of now) but the person who reported the news just messed up the URL.. I know everyone (including me) would love to hear that the G5 is shipping but all signs still point to a G4 speedbump sometime over the next month or so... I wish/hope I'm wrong about this but the G5 release in the fall is what I'm betting my money on.
Dave
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I wonder if that is any more reliable than my Epson printer?</strong><hr></blockquote>
ROTFL.
This Swedish page is for the EPL-5800, which is remarkably similar to my "bondi" EPL-5700i, that was sold specifically to go with the iMacs. Ironically, there are still no OS X drivers for these printers, even though a Power Mac G5, if we were really going to see such a thing anytime soon, would boot into OS X by default.
I stopped getting my hopes up on careless typos a long time ago.
Escher
G5 are going to be announced soon!! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Either way though, it bodes well for the next month or two. Unless Epson is thinking WAY ahead.
<a href="http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html"; target="_blank">http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html</a>;
"You can download VueScan by clicking on:
VueScan 7.3.13 for Windows
VueScan 7.3.13 for Linux
VueScan 7.3.13 for Mac OS 8/9/X
Please note that VueScan/G5 (for the PowerPC G5 processor) is a separate product and will be sold via other channels. The above download will not work with the PowerPC G5 processor. (We have no inside information about the availability of PowerPC G5 processors in future Apple products, but it's clear that these products will be available in the near future.)" :eek:
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I wonder if that is any more reliable than my Epson printer?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No. Plus it cleans the heads every tenth page.
Heck, iPhoto already doesn't list my Epson 740 on it's printer compatibility page. Guess they've already started.
On a (related?) side note, Epson today "accidentally" mentioned the G5 on their site... this is Epson, not some (arguably) desperate-for-attention-shareware-developer, so you can be sure that it was either a typo or an accidental leak. We saved this link, which should direct you to the page. If not, here's a quote we snapped up:
"EPL-5800 - A4-skrivare med skrivhastighet 10 sid/min och ett papperskassett fšr 150 ark. Standard utrustade EPL-5800 kan kopplas till Apple iMac och Apple G3/G4/G5/Cube (O.S 8.1 eller hšgre) direkt frŒn ur lŒdan med den sŒ kallade "Quickdraw driver", via USB. Det finns dock inget stšd fšr PostScript fonter eller EPS filer"
Could this be what is being released?
Know something about it? Let us know.
Update (01/11/02 9:40 A.M.): The Epson page was made in 2000...
- Mark
WinTel hardware is much more important than Mac (sad but true) WinTel doesn't play silly games like "Guess what we are gonna do next.. ala Jobs and Company" (sorry but it is pretty silly if you ask me).
If Epson DID have G5 systems for testing (and that would be a really big if) I can see how they might not think twice about putting a spec sheet out that said G5 compatible. After all most of these companies deal with Intel stuff most of the day and Intel keeps it's cards open as to what they are doing in the future (for the most part).
Us Mac heads might know it's a BOZO-NO-NO to pre-announce stuff from Apple but much of the PC oriented world might not.
Dave
<strong>WinTel hardware is much more important than Mac (sad but true) WinTel doesn't play silly games like "Guess what we are gonna do next.. ala Jobs and Company" (sorry but it is pretty silly if you ask me).
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
well, i can't say i totally disagree, but remember that apple is fighting from the 5%-or-less sector, so they have a pretty hard time battling against the 800 lb. gorilla of intel/amd/microsoft/dell... they must figure a well-hyped macworld announcement is worth two comdexs (comdecies?).
plus, apple can't use the "thow everything at a wall and see what sticks" philosophy that those others players can... each ad must be perfect, since it's probably a greater percentage of their overall budget for such things. sure, they've got a lot of cash, but not when you compare it to microsoft's bottomless pit o' gold.
anyway, even if the g5 isn't ready yet, i suggest apple better start squelching rumors fast, because now it's been mentioned from a shareware developer (hamrick has been around for a while, and lots of folks -- not me -- swear by his scan software), epson (it sure doesn't LOOK like a typo), and during the post-macworld interview, where steve was asked point-blank about the existence of the g5, to which he countered with the "i can't talk about future hardware" comment. but that put the term "g5" in the mainstream on cnn, albeit briefly...
pandora's box may not be open, but it's starting to bust at the seams.
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
[ 01-11-2002: Message edited by: rok ]</p>