<a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/"; target="_blank">Think Secret</a> is reporting that Pinot has been renamed. I just thought I should let you all know.
<strong><a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/"; target="_blank">Think Secret</a> is reporting that Pinot has been renamed. I just thought I should let you all know.</strong><hr></blockquote>
hmmm, does it still have the same after taste as Pinot?
<strong><a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/"; target="_blank">Think Secret</a> is reporting that Pinot has been renamed. I just thought I should let you all know.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I said (in another thread) don't get 'hooked' on Pinot... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
[quote]Earlier in the month, one major developer forecasted that we could see a minor update in 3-4 weeks, addressing many of the "P2"-level bugs from the gold master.<hr></blockquote>
Decipher Rumor Time for me. Would "earlier this month" make "3-4 weeks" into sometime next week??
It's funny to see Apple pimping these codenames. But I guess it makes perfect sense. When they switched to the Roman numeral 'X' they kinda locked themselves into something. They want to keep that X around for years, so upgrades are going to be all 'point-upgrades' (e.g. 10.3, 10.4. 10.5, etc.) for quite a while.
Obviously Apple can't expect folks to shell out $100+ bucks every year or so for an OS that is essentially still version 10, but this new naming scheme fixes that. It lets Apple market upgrades as if they were a whole new version, while keeping the OS X name.
That said, I don't think we'll see 10.3 for at least a year. I expect free updates like 10.2.1 through 10.2.5 before Panther ($100) arrives. Man I just hope it ain't aqua pink.
Someone on this board, a while back, detailed all the features of 10.2 and 10.3. He referred to 10.3 as a cat name - no pinot- and also mentioned that 10.2 would not contain 64 bit code but 10.3 would. This was the time when everyone expected 10.2 to be built for 64 bit machines. For the life of me, I can't find that post. Does anyone else remember it?
According to Britannica Online, a panther is either a leopard or a puma.
I had thought it was the same as a Jaguar, which would strongly suggest a 64-bit version of the exact same thing. Not quite exact same, but you get the idea.
<strong>Someone on this board, a while back, detailed all the features of 10.2 and 10.3. He referred to 10.3 as a cat name - no pinot- and also mentioned that 10.2 would not contain 64 bit code but 10.3 would. This was the time when everyone expected 10.2 to be built for 64 bit machines. For the life of me, I can't find that post. Does anyone else remember it?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe if the GD search function worked on these boards.
<strong>Someone on this board, a while back, detailed all the features of 10.2 and 10.3. He referred to 10.3 as a cat name - no pinot- and also mentioned that 10.2 would not contain 64 bit code but 10.3 would. This was the time when everyone expected 10.2 to be built for 64 bit machines. For the life of me, I can't find that post. Does anyone else remember it?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Wouldn't happen to mean this would ya? Don't ask why I had it but what I don't have is the persons name/nick. All I do have is this was posted on or about April 4th (long before any WWDC leaks).
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What you WILL see in Jaguar (10.2) -- some of this is already well known:
* spring loaded folders.
* Finder labels just like OS 9.
* improved contextual menus, but still not customisable.
* better threaded Finder (eg connecting to servers).
* CUPS support -- it IS in the internal builds, just not the seeded ones.
* SMB browsing -- once again, it IS in the internal builds.
* 15% speed boost all around from compilation with PPC-optimised GCC 3.1 (this will apply to the OS itself and all Apple-vended apps. Other developers will have to recompile.
* Ability to turn off anti-aliasing via the System Prefs (one less use for Tinker Tool, I guess).
* Improved Mail.app with more filtering options and SpamCop (spam reporting) integration. GPG support and integration now standard but GPG will NOT be distributed with the OS due to GPL licensing issues, so users will have to DL and install a separate pkg.
What you will NOT see in Jaguar but is currently in very early builds of Leopard (10.5):
* Carbon Finder (still). You are NEVER going to see a Cocoa Finder.
* Ability to define unlimited additional Finder labels (ties in with DB filesystem featuers -- more on this below).
* Split dock feature. It's almost like multiple docks, but you can only split the dock into segments, and those segments still remain on the same side of the screen.
* iTunes-style searching of the file system using a "browse" mode. Searching is done based on file-metadata stored in an extended HFS+ spec (backwards compatible, more on this later) in an effort to copy and improve upon the DB-like aspects of the BeOS filesystem.
* Much work is being done on getting a "switch user" feature going like in WindowsXP, but still only in preliminary stages. We can hope...
* New GUI element for browsing file system: the "pile". This extends the file/folder metaphor by allowing the user to group documents in piles which are represented on screen as a stack of docs, each one slightly rotated so you can see the edges of the one underneath it. Anti-aliased Quartz proving really handy for this.
* Support for future Apple hardware: eg. 64-bit from the ground up (read: G5), USB2 support, Firewire2, faster Airport etc.
* HFS+ to support softupdates (similar to FreeBSD softupdates) which provide journalling filesystem like capabilities (ie. quick crash recovery) without actually being a journalling filesystem. These extensions are backwards compatibile with today's HFS+ in the same way that ext2/ext3 are interchangeable on Linux.
* Much, much more.
The ONLY people who are being seeded with Jaguar builds at the moment are Apple's biggest and best buddies (eg. Adobe, MS, Macromedia etc). Clearly, NOBODY outside of Apple has seen Leopard yet. That info comes from my friend who works at Apple (an HI guy). Expect to be waiting a long time for Leopard though: MWNY 2003 at the earliest.
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<strong><a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/"; target="_blank">Think Secret</a> is reporting that Pinot has been renamed. I just thought I should let you all know.</strong><hr></blockquote>
hmmm, does it still have the same after taste as Pinot?
anyone? anyone?
hmpf...tuff crowd <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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hmmm, does it still have the same after taste as Pinot?
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
But seriously did anyone not expect it to be named after a wild cat?! Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar... Pinot! How about Tabby for 10.4?
A@ron
<strong><a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/"; target="_blank">Think Secret</a> is reporting that Pinot has been renamed. I just thought I should let you all know.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I said (in another thread) don't get 'hooked' on Pinot... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Smilodon
Pick one.
After then wine thing, I was really hoping Apple would name the OS after French fromage, like Camembert or Rouquefort. Heck, I'd settle for Munster.
Cats are old hat. We've had enough of that.
10.5 Heathcliff
10.6 Battle-Cat/Cringer (from He-Man)
10.7 Hobbes
10.8 Cagliostro
10.9 Cheshire Cat
and then 11 will start with wolves and dogs
God I loved that comic strip... was the best after Calvin and Hobbes <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" /> sigh
[quote]Earlier in the month, one major developer forecasted that we could see a minor update in 3-4 weeks, addressing many of the "P2"-level bugs from the gold master.<hr></blockquote>
Decipher Rumor Time for me. Would "earlier this month" make "3-4 weeks" into sometime next week??
Screed ...ask a silly...
[ 08-21-2002: Message edited by: sCreeD ]</p>
Obviously Apple can't expect folks to shell out $100+ bucks every year or so for an OS that is essentially still version 10, but this new naming scheme fixes that. It lets Apple market upgrades as if they were a whole new version, while keeping the OS X name.
That said, I don't think we'll see 10.3 for at least a year. I expect free updates like 10.2.1 through 10.2.5 before Panther ($100) arrives. Man I just hope it ain't aqua pink.
<strong>The "Steve can pronounce that" variety.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Don't bet on it. I can see it now?
"Now a demo of something we like to call Panter."
I had thought it was the same as a Jaguar, which would strongly suggest a 64-bit version of the exact same thing. Not quite exact same, but you get the idea.
<strong>Someone on this board, a while back, detailed all the features of 10.2 and 10.3. He referred to 10.3 as a cat name - no pinot- and also mentioned that 10.2 would not contain 64 bit code but 10.3 would. This was the time when everyone expected 10.2 to be built for 64 bit machines. For the life of me, I can't find that post. Does anyone else remember it?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe if the GD search function worked on these boards.
[quote]Originally posted by El Pre$idente:
Pinot is actually how Steve Jobs pronounces Panther. <hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by beb:
Ya'll are forgetting that Apple will eventually be bought by Disney. Bring on Mac OS Tigger!
Both are pretty witty, if you ask me.
Escher
[ 08-21-2002: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
<strong>Someone on this board, a while back, detailed all the features of 10.2 and 10.3. He referred to 10.3 as a cat name - no pinot- and also mentioned that 10.2 would not contain 64 bit code but 10.3 would. This was the time when everyone expected 10.2 to be built for 64 bit machines. For the life of me, I can't find that post. Does anyone else remember it?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Wouldn't happen to mean this would ya? Don't ask why I had it but what I don't have is the persons name/nick. All I do have is this was posted on or about April 4th (long before any WWDC leaks).
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[quote]
What you WILL see in Jaguar (10.2) -- some of this is already well known:
* spring loaded folders.
* Finder labels just like OS 9.
* improved contextual menus, but still not customisable.
* better threaded Finder (eg connecting to servers).
* CUPS support -- it IS in the internal builds, just not the seeded ones.
* SMB browsing -- once again, it IS in the internal builds.
* 15% speed boost all around from compilation with PPC-optimised GCC 3.1 (this will apply to the OS itself and all Apple-vended apps. Other developers will have to recompile.
* Ability to turn off anti-aliasing via the System Prefs (one less use for Tinker Tool, I guess).
* Improved Mail.app with more filtering options and SpamCop (spam reporting) integration. GPG support and integration now standard but GPG will NOT be distributed with the OS due to GPL licensing issues, so users will have to DL and install a separate pkg.
What you will NOT see in Jaguar but is currently in very early builds of Leopard (10.5):
* Carbon Finder (still). You are NEVER going to see a Cocoa Finder.
* Ability to define unlimited additional Finder labels (ties in with DB filesystem featuers -- more on this below).
* Split dock feature. It's almost like multiple docks, but you can only split the dock into segments, and those segments still remain on the same side of the screen.
* iTunes-style searching of the file system using a "browse" mode. Searching is done based on file-metadata stored in an extended HFS+ spec (backwards compatible, more on this later) in an effort to copy and improve upon the DB-like aspects of the BeOS filesystem.
* Much work is being done on getting a "switch user" feature going like in WindowsXP, but still only in preliminary stages. We can hope...
* New GUI element for browsing file system: the "pile". This extends the file/folder metaphor by allowing the user to group documents in piles which are represented on screen as a stack of docs, each one slightly rotated so you can see the edges of the one underneath it. Anti-aliased Quartz proving really handy for this.
* Support for future Apple hardware: eg. 64-bit from the ground up (read: G5), USB2 support, Firewire2, faster Airport etc.
* HFS+ to support softupdates (similar to FreeBSD softupdates) which provide journalling filesystem like capabilities (ie. quick crash recovery) without actually being a journalling filesystem. These extensions are backwards compatibile with today's HFS+ in the same way that ext2/ext3 are interchangeable on Linux.
* Much, much more.
The ONLY people who are being seeded with Jaguar builds at the moment are Apple's biggest and best buddies (eg. Adobe, MS, Macromedia etc). Clearly, NOBODY outside of Apple has seen Leopard yet. That info comes from my friend who works at Apple (an HI guy). Expect to be waiting a long time for Leopard though: MWNY 2003 at the earliest.
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Dave