Well people are always touting the price advantage of windows systems, but now you need to spend more to get it to be stable, right, so where is the big price advantage in that, unless people don't want stable systems.
re-read what I put..then re-read what you put.
hopefully 2nd time round you will be able to see your follies and assumptions.
The original poster raises valid points about both OS X and Windows (XP and Vista). Cannon driver support for OS X is abysmal and their website support is user unfriendly. Their all in one enterprise printer/copiers are especially difficult.
And, now that Apple is on the same x86 platform as PCs, they have no excuse not to keep up with them and they don't in hardware specs. I've seen OS X running on a fair few PCs lately so the OS you run is becoming more of a matter of choice and not hardware dependent. Mac OS X is susceptible to viruses and malware, as is the hardware platform which is PC.
The only real difference now is the outer case design and their choice of displays for their all in ones or notebooks. They are basically mid range PCs in shiny clothes. Gone are the days when Apple designed their own hardware and co-designed their CPUs. Gone are the days of the Apple Logic Board. They are PCs now but with a premium price on (usually) cheaper, older hardware. But their exteriors are sexy.
I'm a long time Mac user, but I'm looking at Sony Vaios at the moment, which are offering more than MacBooks presently.
oh, there is one..... if you particularly don't like money.
Hmmm, that's odd.
My friend's company installed a few Macs and the entire staff was up and running in just a few days with no special training (saving the company hundreds or thousands of dollars), using Pages, Numbers, Keynote, iPhoto and iMovie. Try that with installing a new PC system (for converts). They were very happy as well with print to PDF already being in the OS as opposed to yet another app to buy and install.
Which brings me to my point: the iLife and iWork apps are very well integrated so that they work together well and the learning curve is lower, both of which save time and increase productivity.
Now if Apple would include a drawing app with iWork.
One last point about the company above: my friend says the staff enjoy their work more now and the office has a stylish look (the design of the machines and the appearance of the screens) which is worth a lot to the overall impact they make on clients.
The original poster raises valid points about both OS X and Windows (XP and Vista). Cannon driver support for OS X is abysmal and their website support is user unfriendly. Their all in one enterprise printer/copiers are especially difficult.
And, now that Apple is on the same x86 platform as PCs, they have no excuse not to keep up with them and they don't in hardware specs. I've seen OS X running on a fair few PCs lately so the OS you run is becoming more of a matter of choice and not hardware dependent. Mac OS X is susceptible to viruses and malware, as is the hardware platform which is PC.
The only real difference now is the outer case design and their choice of displays for their all in ones or notebooks. They are basically mid range PCs in shiny clothes. Gone are the days when Apple designed their own hardware and co-designed their CPUs. Gone are the days of the Apple Logic Board. They are PCs now but with a premium price on (usually) cheaper, older hardware. But their exteriors are sexy.
I'm a long time Mac user, but I'm looking at Sony Vaios at the moment, which are offering more than MacBooks presently.
Actually, the mobile hardware is not so cheap. Other than that, I'm mostly in agreement. I would also say Apple has completely changed its focus to getting iPod users to buy Macs and just assuming the current Mac users are going to buy no matter what.
A friend asked me to put together a list of reasons to buy a Mac that he can use to convince his parents to get him a MacBook instead of a PC. I put together these seven already, but I'm sure there're some missing and would appreciate the help.
There are zero viruses on the Mac
Comes pre-installed with industry-leading applications like iPhoto, iMovie and Time Machine for automated backups.
If necessary, it's possible to run Windows on a Mac
Apple Stores offer free technical support
Macs have the highest customer satisfaction ratings and are more reliable
Macs are widely considered easier to use—not just from a user interface point of view, but also when it comes to common tasks like networking
It's easier to instal and uninstall applications
Also, while I think that style is a responsible consideration, my friends will only be swayed by objective facts. Thanks.
Well, here are my 2 cents;
1. Higher resale value
2. More desirability = higher resale
3. More compatible with iPod, iPhone and other digital devices
4. Pleasant to look at, especially in the living room.
5. Easier to setup and use - just RTFM once and a while, that's what they are for!
6. Thousands of applications, many of them for free! (Yes, there are even Microsoft products for Mac like Word, Excel.)
7. The standard for most creative professions, music, photography, art.
8. Supported by most educational institutions around the world.
9. Apple Care support is without peer, saved me lots of money.
10. Every Mac comes with 90 days of telephone technical support.
11. Because Apple creates the hardware, operating system and many built-in applications, Apple computers are truly integrated systems with vastly superior support.
12. With AppleCare parts and labor will be covered for three years from your computer’s purchase date. They will also use genuine Apple parts for any repair.
13. While no computer connected to the Internet is 100 percent immune to viruses and spyware, the Mac is built on a solid UNIX foundation and designed with security in mind.
14. A Mac makes wireless easy - networks automatically appear, and you can get on the Internet with a few clicks, really.
15. A Mac comes with so many built-in applications that you’ll enjoy using for both work and play (rather than useless freebies you’ll want to uninstall)
16. IF you get stuck you can view hundreds of tutorials on Apple.com that will show you all kinds of help.
I guess that's all I can come up with, oh wait - once you get the hang of a Mac, nothing else will even come close.
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You actually need a new control panel for extra mouse features on the Mac.
SteerMouse
Only glossy screens available now-can be annoying to some people (me included)
Limited Hardware choices-not one consumer priced laptop larger than 13 inches (which I find bizarre)
OK, 3:
No upgradeable tower available at reasonable price.
Well people are always touting the price advantage of windows systems, but now you need to spend more to get it to be stable, right, so where is the big price advantage in that, unless people don't want stable systems.
re-read what I put..then re-read what you put.
hopefully 2nd time round you will be able to see your follies and assumptions.
And, now that Apple is on the same x86 platform as PCs, they have no excuse not to keep up with them and they don't in hardware specs. I've seen OS X running on a fair few PCs lately so the OS you run is becoming more of a matter of choice and not hardware dependent. Mac OS X is susceptible to viruses and malware, as is the hardware platform which is PC.
The only real difference now is the outer case design and their choice of displays for their all in ones or notebooks. They are basically mid range PCs in shiny clothes. Gone are the days when Apple designed their own hardware and co-designed their CPUs. Gone are the days of the Apple Logic Board. They are PCs now but with a premium price on (usually) cheaper, older hardware. But their exteriors are sexy.
I'm a long time Mac user, but I'm looking at Sony Vaios at the moment, which are offering more than MacBooks presently.
Reasons to Buy a Mac
none
oh, there is one..... if you particularly don't like money.
Hmmm, that's odd.
My friend's company installed a few Macs and the entire staff was up and running in just a few days with no special training (saving the company hundreds or thousands of dollars), using Pages, Numbers, Keynote, iPhoto and iMovie. Try that with installing a new PC system (for converts). They were very happy as well with print to PDF already being in the OS as opposed to yet another app to buy and install.
Which brings me to my point: the iLife and iWork apps are very well integrated so that they work together well and the learning curve is lower, both of which save time and increase productivity.
Now if Apple would include a drawing app with iWork.
One last point about the company above: my friend says the staff enjoy their work more now and the office has a stylish look (the design of the machines and the appearance of the screens) which is worth a lot to the overall impact they make on clients.
The original poster raises valid points about both OS X and Windows (XP and Vista). Cannon driver support for OS X is abysmal and their website support is user unfriendly. Their all in one enterprise printer/copiers are especially difficult.
And, now that Apple is on the same x86 platform as PCs, they have no excuse not to keep up with them and they don't in hardware specs. I've seen OS X running on a fair few PCs lately so the OS you run is becoming more of a matter of choice and not hardware dependent. Mac OS X is susceptible to viruses and malware, as is the hardware platform which is PC.
The only real difference now is the outer case design and their choice of displays for their all in ones or notebooks. They are basically mid range PCs in shiny clothes. Gone are the days when Apple designed their own hardware and co-designed their CPUs. Gone are the days of the Apple Logic Board. They are PCs now but with a premium price on (usually) cheaper, older hardware. But their exteriors are sexy.
I'm a long time Mac user, but I'm looking at Sony Vaios at the moment, which are offering more than MacBooks presently.
Actually, the mobile hardware is not so cheap. Other than that, I'm mostly in agreement. I would also say Apple has completely changed its focus to getting iPod users to buy Macs and just assuming the current Mac users are going to buy no matter what.
A friend asked me to put together a list of reasons to buy a Mac that he can use to convince his parents to get him a MacBook instead of a PC. I put together these seven already, but I'm sure there're some missing and would appreciate the help.
- There are zero viruses on the Mac
- Comes pre-installed with industry-leading applications like iPhoto, iMovie and Time Machine for automated backups.
- If necessary, it's possible to run Windows on a Mac
- Apple Stores offer free technical support
- Macs have the highest customer satisfaction ratings and are more reliable
- Macs are widely considered easier to use—not just from a user interface point of view, but also when it comes to common tasks like networking
- It's easier to instal and uninstall applications
Also, while I think that style is a responsible consideration, my friends will only be swayed by objective facts. Thanks.Well, here are my 2 cents;
1. Higher resale value
2. More desirability = higher resale
3. More compatible with iPod, iPhone and other digital devices
4. Pleasant to look at, especially in the living room.
5. Easier to setup and use - just RTFM once and a while, that's what they are for!
6. Thousands of applications, many of them for free! (Yes, there are even Microsoft products for Mac like Word, Excel.)
7. The standard for most creative professions, music, photography, art.
8. Supported by most educational institutions around the world.
9. Apple Care support is without peer, saved me lots of money.
10. Every Mac comes with 90 days of telephone technical support.
11. Because Apple creates the hardware, operating system and many built-in applications, Apple computers are truly integrated systems with vastly superior support.
12. With AppleCare parts and labor will be covered for three years from your computer’s purchase date. They will also use genuine Apple parts for any repair.
13. While no computer connected to the Internet is 100 percent immune to viruses and spyware, the Mac is built on a solid UNIX foundation and designed with security in mind.
14. A Mac makes wireless easy - networks automatically appear, and you can get on the Internet with a few clicks, really.
15. A Mac comes with so many built-in applications that you’ll enjoy using for both work and play (rather than useless freebies you’ll want to uninstall)
16. IF you get stuck you can view hundreds of tutorials on Apple.com that will show you all kinds of help.
I guess that's all I can come up with, oh wait - once you get the hang of a Mac, nothing else will even come close.
I was looking around and found this too:
http://www.macworld.com/article/1376...liability.html