Its funny how people don't follow market trends when the stock is down.
They will argue the stock is down because the iPhone doesn't have copy and paste or the Apple is killing firewire, or whatever other gripe people have with Apple.
In reality you look across the market and everybody's down.
This is the reality of today's marketplace, where irrationality is the norm. When the market settles in a few years, we'll be back to the "regular" irrational AAPL stock rises and dips.
PS: Does anyone else who buys Macs or other PCs refuse the damn printer that is always offered? I always get the strangest looks for not wanting the printer.
Does it cost anything extra? If it involves a rebate, then I wouldn't necessarily want it but I don't think I'd refuse it in a bundle if I don't save anything by dropping it. I've never had a situation like that, but even if I don't use printers, I wouldn't mind having one in case it turns out to be useful for some odd reason or another. Or just take it and give it away.
Though maybe my perceptions are colored, I do remember times I almost didn't need one at all, but came handy enough to justify keeping one around. The part that might color might comments is that I do have five printers that are used on a near daily basis, three more are occasional use. Kind of a long story, though three of them are shared.
Well I have an MS XP laptop because I'm in the business world.
Steve is still playing with games and tantrums.
Edit.
Made the mistake of thinking that Apple was going to put out a business phone and start listening to consumers and not just Steve.
My mistake.
Good part is I'll have plenty to choose from.
I too have a Dell, it works just fine, runs Vista. Works great for windows development, is solid. No issues. But my MBP is just hot sexy and what I come home to after work. Ahh, bliss.
They won't, but using a student discount is better than the Best Buy discount in all or almost all cases. I think even Amazon is better as you probably won't have to pay tax and they tend to offer discounts.
PS: Does anyone else who buys Macs or other PCs refuse the damn printer that is always offered? I always get the strangest looks for not wanting the printer.
I refused the printer as I already have three printers and did need another one. I get a military discount from the Apple store (I am retired Air Force and they give a discount on both the iMac and the MacBook) but the ad never reflected a military or student discount just a hundred dollars off on the machine.
In fairness to Microsoft, there is a shift for one because of the 'Vista' issues but independent hardware manufacturers who are producing laptops have dropped the ball in relation to design.If anything, design is worse now as they cut manufacturing costs in the short term strategy of higher dividends and better share prices.
Speaking of gains in the mac notebook segment...I just returned from the SC08 conference. This is a computing conference where Apple, unlike Dell Hp and MS, has no official presence (supercomputing). 90% of the 10,000 attendees had notebooks and Apple was almost certainly the most represented brand. I took a few samples during slow presentations and estimate that 30-40% of all the notebooks were macs. A fair number of the new models and airs too, even though people in this segment tend to go for pro models. Dell was probably number two, but it is just sooo sad to see the grey plastic Dell corporate brick sitting next to Apples various gorgeous models. Also saw a large number of mac pros driving displays on the exhibition floor, and a number of imacs deployed in quasi-kiosk mode. I know its never going to be a big profit center for them, but i have to think it would have been well worth the money to set up a booth in the exhibit hall even as pure advertising.
Its funny how people don't follow market trends when the stock is down.
They will argue the stock is down because the iPhone doesn't have copy and paste or the Apple is killing firewire, or whatever other gripe people have with Apple.
In reality you look across the market and everybody's down.
Not directed at anybody in particular:
Exactly, that's why, with the market where it's at, and also, how secure Apple is, this is a great time for those with resources. The market will come back, and thus APPL HOLDERS will benefit.
I too have a Dell, it works just fine, runs Vista. Works great for windows development, is solid. No issues. But my MBP is just hot sexy and what I come home to after work. Ahh, bliss.
I have a MBP. Works great for Mac, Windows, and Linux development at the same time. Emulators are a godsend.
Tried Vista, had about 2 or 3 blue screens while applying the 100 odd updates after I installed it. Finally got it all up to date, just to find out that some of the software I use still isn't supported. So now I need to repeat the process again with XP. Fun times.
...PS: Does anyone else who buys Macs or other PCs refuse the damn printer that is always offered? I always get the strangest looks for not wanting the printer.
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Does it cost anything extra? If it involves a rebate, then I wouldn't necessarily want it but I don't think I'd refuse it in a bundle if I don't save anything by dropping it. ...
It doesn't cost you cash, but it isn't completely free. They want your personal information, and are willing to give you a free printer in exchange for it. Not worth it to me, so I either turn it down or see if someone else wants to "do the deal". And of course the printer manufacturers want you to get locked into buying their profit-generating cartridges, but that's another story...
I own an iPhone, and I do NOT own any other Apple products. Based upon the fact that Apple does not listen to the demands of its iPhone users (with respect to MMS, copy and paste, video recording, etc. on the iPhone), I will NEVER buy another Apple product. And I am a user who loves the advancement of technology. I have a doctorate degree in law, and I'm pretty well educated. Apple's stubborn stance will not get it to the next level! You have to satisfy the ENTERPRISE AND the call of the common folk. Otherwise, you will go back to the Apple of yesteryear - OVERPRICED and UNDERPROMISED! I am a J.D. AND an M.B.A.! That may not mean much, but I am speaking for many of those who are well educated but who see Apple as being in an Ivory Tower and not listening to its users. This type of attitude will ruin you in the long run if other companies meet the needs of such users! Apple should take advantage of this rocky market to take control of the smartphone business. Yet, it still decides to continue with its stubborn ways and avoid the demads of its audience. It sounds to me like the U.S auto industry, but the next 12 months will reveal the future of Apple. It will either come out ahead, or it will fail, along with Motorola and other companies who decided what was best for the economy based upon the ideas of its executive office, as opposed to the ideas of its consumers. That's Marketing 101!!!
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Its funny how people don't follow market trends when the stock is down.
They will argue the stock is down because the iPhone doesn't have copy and paste or the Apple is killing firewire, or whatever other gripe people have with Apple.
In reality you look across the market and everybody's down.
This is the reality of today's marketplace, where irrationality is the norm. When the market settles in a few years, we'll be back to the "regular" irrational AAPL stock rises and dips.
Slowly.
... but surely ...
Agreed. BS report, just following market trends.
How about reporting on the new Safari update and the 4,000 posts to Apple's website looking for help.
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...ource=rss_news
Apple continues to put out beta software and is using us to test it for them.
Give me a break 4,000+ users looking for help and Apple doesn't even bother to put out why the update was put out today.
MS/Apple what's the difference these days!
How about reporting on the new Safari update and the 4,000 posts to Apple's website looking for help.
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...ource=rss_news
Apple continues to put out beta software and is using us to test it for them.
Give me a break 4,000+ users looking for help and Apple doesn't even bother to put out why the update was put out today.
MS/Apple what's the difference these days!
cheese curds. One has them, the other doesn't. You pick.
cheese curds. One has them, the other doesn't. You pick.
Well I have an MS XP laptop because I'm in the business world.
Steve is still playing with games and tantrums.
Edit.
Made the mistake of thinking that Apple was going to put out a business phone and start listening to consumers and not just Steve.
My mistake.
Good part is I'll have plenty to choose from.
PS: Does anyone else who buys Macs or other PCs refuse the damn printer that is always offered? I always get the strangest looks for not wanting the printer.
Does it cost anything extra? If it involves a rebate, then I wouldn't necessarily want it but I don't think I'd refuse it in a bundle if I don't save anything by dropping it. I've never had a situation like that, but even if I don't use printers, I wouldn't mind having one in case it turns out to be useful for some odd reason or another. Or just take it and give it away.
Though maybe my perceptions are colored, I do remember times I almost didn't need one at all, but came handy enough to justify keeping one around. The part that might color might comments is that I do have five printers that are used on a near daily basis, three more are occasional use. Kind of a long story, though three of them are shared.
cheese curds. One has them, the other doesn't. You pick.
You know cheese curds? They squeak when you chew... 2 Februarys in Marshfield WI.
AAPL: up 12.56%
S: up 28.65%
GM: up 17.32%
GOOG: Down 1.9%
MSFT: up 5.13%
YHOO: up 8.73%
T: up 6.95%
So Apple gained like everyone else, almost.
Well I have an MS XP laptop because I'm in the business world.
Steve is still playing with games and tantrums.
Edit.
Made the mistake of thinking that Apple was going to put out a business phone and start listening to consumers and not just Steve.
My mistake.
Good part is I'll have plenty to choose from.
I too have a Dell, it works just fine, runs Vista. Works great for windows development, is solid. No issues. But my MBP is just hot sexy and what I come home to after work. Ahh, bliss.
They won't, but using a student discount is better than the Best Buy discount in all or almost all cases. I think even Amazon is better as you probably won't have to pay tax and they tend to offer discounts.
PS: Does anyone else who buys Macs or other PCs refuse the damn printer that is always offered? I always get the strangest looks for not wanting the printer.
I refused the printer as I already have three printers and did need another one. I get a military discount from the Apple store (I am retired Air Force and they give a discount on both the iMac and the MacBook) but the ad never reflected a military or student discount just a hundred dollars off on the machine.
Meanwhile... Microsoft's marketshare slowly starts slipping away...
In fairness to Microsoft, there is a shift for one because of the 'Vista' issues but independent hardware manufacturers who are producing laptops have dropped the ball in relation to design.If anything, design is worse now as they cut manufacturing costs in the short term strategy of higher dividends and better share prices.
Absolutely right. Anyone thick enough to credit an analyst's statement for today's rise has no business commenting.
And probably shouldn't be playing the market, either.
Its funny how people don't follow market trends when the stock is down.
They will argue the stock is down because the iPhone doesn't have copy and paste or the Apple is killing firewire, or whatever other gripe people have with Apple.
In reality you look across the market and everybody's down.
Not directed at anybody in particular:
Exactly, that's why, with the market where it's at, and also, how secure Apple is, this is a great time for those with resources. The market will come back, and thus APPL HOLDERS will benefit.
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I too have a Dell, it works just fine, runs Vista. Works great for windows development, is solid. No issues. But my MBP is just hot sexy and what I come home to after work. Ahh, bliss.
I have a MBP. Works great for Mac, Windows, and Linux development at the same time. Emulators are a godsend.
Tried Vista, had about 2 or 3 blue screens while applying the 100 odd updates after I installed it. Finally got it all up to date, just to find out that some of the software I use still isn't supported. So now I need to repeat the process again with XP. Fun times.
... but surely ...
Don't call me Shirley.
You know cheese curds? They squeak when you chew... 2 Februarys in Marshfield WI.
That's because of the curdish mice.
...PS: Does anyone else who buys Macs or other PCs refuse the damn printer that is always offered? I always get the strangest looks for not wanting the printer.
Does it cost anything extra? If it involves a rebate, then I wouldn't necessarily want it but I don't think I'd refuse it in a bundle if I don't save anything by dropping it. ...
It doesn't cost you cash, but it isn't completely free. They want your personal information, and are willing to give you a free printer in exchange for it. Not worth it to me, so I either turn it down or see if someone else wants to "do the deal". And of course the printer manufacturers want you to get locked into buying their profit-generating cartridges, but that's another story...