Because you take possession of it in IL, just as if you bought it from a store there.
Stores in states with sales tax were tired of losing sales to businesses located in other states, so a federal law was passed a few years ago imposing the sales tax of the customer's state.
There is no federal law governing this, even though states have been pushing for it. California expects everyone to "fess up" and voluntarily pay for purchases made from out of state vendors (right!). The federal courts have ruled that if you have a physical presence in a particular state for sales, then that state may tax an out of state sale through that same company. Amazon has no physical sales presence anywhere, hence, no sales tax (states fume). Some companies have tried to set up a parallel company modeled on this to elude taxes...no such luck, they were called on it. There are decent arguments on both sides, but for now, while the politicians have yet to find more money while shaking you upside down, enjoy it when and where you can. Since Apple probably has a store in the Chicago area, you're fair game for the taxman.
Can someone tell me why I am to pay 6.25% sales tax here in Illinois from purchasing an MacBook Pro from a retailer in California (onSale.com) or in New Hampshire (PC Connection)???
check out powermax.com. They are located in Oregon and have never charged me
sales tax for purchases I had shipped to California. They have good customer service,
I don't think I'm going to listen to any discount or pricing 'predicitions' anymore. First, before the new macbooks came out, there was supposed to be an $800 low-end macbook, but instead it comes in $500 more. Now 'analysts' predict that there will be 15% discounts at Apple, and instead you basically get the educational discount, which I was going to get anyway. I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that Apple doesn't 'do' sales. $11 of an iPod?! That's not a sale.
I don't think I'm going to listen to any discount or pricing 'predicitions' anymore. First, before the new macbooks came out, there was supposed to be an $800 low-end macbook, but instead it comes in $500 more. Now 'analysts' predict that there will be 15% discounts at Apple, and instead you basically get the educational discount, which I was going to get anyway. I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that Apple doesn't 'do' sales. $11 of an iPod?! That's not a sale.
I didn't realize that Apple owed anyone a "sale". They sell for what they sell for, take it or leave it, but quit whining about it. Sheesh!
I didn't realize that Apple owed anyone a "sale". They sell for what they sell for, take it or leave it, but quit whining about it. Sheesh!
If they didn't promote it as a super secret big deal, you'd have a point. The real point is they DID promote black friday as the day to wait for, building anticipation for the big deals they were going to offer. Then the "deals" turned out to be less than what I can find on my own anyway any day of the year. People are understandably disappointed.
If they didn't promote it as a super secret big deal, you'd have a point. The real point is they DID promote black friday as the day to wait for, building anticipation for the big deals they were going to offer. Then the "deals" turned out to be less than what I can find on my own anyway any day of the year. People are understandably disappointed.
Well, they didn't say it was a super secret big deal. What they did say was "Get the season's best prices on Mac, iPod, and iPhone gifts. Friday, November 28th." What part of that did they not fulfill?
If you were mislead by the hype put out by non-Apple sources, that's not Apple's fault. There is no free lunch, and the sooner you quit looking for it, the sooner you will stop being disappointed.
The sale prices were disappointing and embarrasing in a weird way. I did pick up a new MB 2.4 due to the fact I needed one and today I would save money so everything worked out for a change in my favor.
Nice to see Apple not try to bend you over, take the Vaseline from you, and stick a tree trunk in you for the RAM. I payed about $20 or so more for Apple to max out the ram instead of using Crucial. Close enough for me to let Apple do it this time.
I think 20% discounts for today only would have been received well. I might have picked up a mini if that would have been the case. But Apple knows what they are doing since they have a few more dollars in their pockets than me.
Not 1 piece of apple software on sale.... kind of harsh.
I continue to be amazed at some of the attitudes here over this day. It must be the me generation, or is it the instant gratification generation? If you don't get what you consider a bargain then you've been treated harshly?
I continue to be amazed at some of the attitudes here over this day. It must be the me generation, or is it the instant gratification generation? If you don't get what you consider a bargain then you've been treated harshly?
Do you want cheese with that whine?
What would you have our attitudes be? Like yours? If this truly amazes you I believe Harvard is still looking for volunteers for the public genome project... perhaps you have higher sequence homology with Rattus than Homo sapiens.
I was looking at picking up one of the new aluminum Macbooks from Macmall, with nice deals on software and accessories, but after putting together an order I noticed I'd have to send in 5 separate mail-in rebates for a total savings of $200. I did a little googling, and came up with a lot of negative criticism:
It's a moot point, as long as the store doesn't have a building in your state, you're not going to get charged sales tax, whether or not the remote store is in a state with sales tax.
That may change, but so far, the states are simultaneously trying to do what they can to get sites to charge tax while refusing to do what is required of them to earn that privilege.
Because you take possession of it in IL, just as if you bought it from a store there.
Stores in states with sales tax were tired of losing sales to businesses located in other states, so a federal law was passed a few years ago imposing the sales tax of the customer's state.
There is no federal law governing this, even though states have been pushing for it. California expects everyone to "fess up" and voluntarily pay for purchases made from out of state vendors (right!). The federal courts have ruled that if you have a physical presence in a particular state for sales, then that state may tax an out of state sale through that same company. Amazon has no physical sales presence anywhere, hence, no sales tax (states fume).
False on Amazon not charging sales tax, they charge in a few states:
AFIAK, if you own any kind of building in a given state, you're supposed to charge taxes for buyers in the state. I don't know for sure about the defense about physical retail presence, but Amazon might have a legal case pending about that. Maybe valid, maybe not, but Amazon did try to dodge it by saying they're owned and operated by unrelated subsidiaries.
The states with sales taxes would save themselves a lot of hassle if they harmonized their tax codes. From what I've read, a major reason that the Supreme Court denied this was that each state (and some cities) has their own definition of what is taxable. So far that I know, they really haven't even taken that matter seriously.
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Because you take possession of it in IL, just as if you bought it from a store there.
Stores in states with sales tax were tired of losing sales to businesses located in other states, so a federal law was passed a few years ago imposing the sales tax of the customer's state.
There is no federal law governing this, even though states have been pushing for it. California expects everyone to "fess up" and voluntarily pay for purchases made from out of state vendors (right!). The federal courts have ruled that if you have a physical presence in a particular state for sales, then that state may tax an out of state sale through that same company. Amazon has no physical sales presence anywhere, hence, no sales tax (states fume). Some companies have tried to set up a parallel company modeled on this to elude taxes...no such luck, they were called on it. There are decent arguments on both sides, but for now, while the politicians have yet to find more money while shaking you upside down, enjoy it when and where you can. Since Apple probably has a store in the Chicago area, you're fair game for the taxman.
Can someone tell me why I am to pay 6.25% sales tax here in Illinois from purchasing an MacBook Pro from a retailer in California (onSale.com) or in New Hampshire (PC Connection)???
check out powermax.com. They are located in Oregon and have never charged me
sales tax for purchases I had shipped to California. They have good customer service,
trade-ins, and Thanksgiving week discounts.
check out powermax.com. They are located in Oregon and have never charged me
sales tax for purchases I had shipped to California. They have good customer service,
trade-ins, and Thanksgiving week discounts.
Oregon has NO sales tax.
If Apple had made any deep discounts, you would see these same analysts saying Apple is doomed because they did this.
There are a zillion analysts out there, you can always find a few to say something about anything for any reason.
Sometimes what they say makes sense, sometimes it doesn't.
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I don't think I'm going to listen to any discount or pricing 'predicitions' anymore. First, before the new macbooks came out, there was supposed to be an $800 low-end macbook, but instead it comes in $500 more. Now 'analysts' predict that there will be 15% discounts at Apple, and instead you basically get the educational discount, which I was going to get anyway. I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that Apple doesn't 'do' sales. $11 of an iPod?! That's not a sale.
I didn't realize that Apple owed anyone a "sale". They sell for what they sell for, take it or leave it, but quit whining about it. Sheesh!
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/pre-h...ource=mwb15579
I didn't realize that Apple owed anyone a "sale". They sell for what they sell for, take it or leave it, but quit whining about it. Sheesh!
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/pre-h...ource=mwb15579
What else are comment boards supposed to be used for, if not to "comment?"
I didn't realize that Apple owed anyone a "sale". They sell for what they sell for, take it or leave it, but quit whining about it. Sheesh!
If they didn't promote it as a super secret big deal, you'd have a point. The real point is they DID promote black friday as the day to wait for, building anticipation for the big deals they were going to offer. Then the "deals" turned out to be less than what I can find on my own anyway any day of the year. People are understandably disappointed.
If they didn't promote it as a super secret big deal, you'd have a point. The real point is they DID promote black friday as the day to wait for, building anticipation for the big deals they were going to offer. Then the "deals" turned out to be less than what I can find on my own anyway any day of the year. People are understandably disappointed.
Well, they didn't say it was a super secret big deal. What they did say was "Get the season's best prices on Mac, iPod, and iPhone gifts. Friday, November 28th." What part of that did they not fulfill?
If you were mislead by the hype put out by non-Apple sources, that's not Apple's fault. There is no free lunch, and the sooner you quit looking for it, the sooner you will stop being disappointed.
What else are comment boards supposed to be used for, if not to "comment?"
Some of them make interesting (if often tonedeaf to reality) Apple fanboi support groups.
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Nice to see Apple not try to bend you over, take the Vaseline from you, and stick a tree trunk in you for the RAM. I payed about $20 or so more for Apple to max out the ram instead of using Crucial. Close enough for me to let Apple do it this time.
I think 20% discounts for today only would have been received well. I might have picked up a mini if that would have been the case. But Apple knows what they are doing since they have a few more dollars in their pockets than me.
Not 1 piece of apple software on sale.... kind of harsh.
I continue to be amazed at some of the attitudes here over this day. It must be the me generation, or is it the instant gratification generation? If you don't get what you consider a bargain then you've been treated harshly?
Do you want cheese with that whine?
Nice to see Apple not try to bend you over, take the Vaseline from you, and stick a tree trunk in you for the RAM.
They still do... just not on the MB and MB Pro. But on everything else? Yep, Vaseline city.
A partial step forward, if you will. I don't think Apple's capable of quitting RAM-gouging cold turkey.
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I continue to be amazed at some of the attitudes here over this day. It must be the me generation, or is it the instant gratification generation? If you don't get what you consider a bargain then you've been treated harshly?
Do you want cheese with that whine?
What would you have our attitudes be? Like yours? If this truly amazes you I believe Harvard is still looking for volunteers for the public genome project... perhaps you have higher sequence homology with Rattus than Homo sapiens.
- http://www.rebatereportcard.com/reba...nyname=macmall
- http://www.macintouch.com/readerrepo...topic2979.html
- http://www.resellerratings.com/store/MacMall
- http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...com-c6497.html
Anyone else have good/bad experiences with them?Oregon has NO sales tax.
It's a moot point, as long as the store doesn't have a building in your state, you're not going to get charged sales tax, whether or not the remote store is in a state with sales tax.
That may change, but so far, the states are simultaneously trying to do what they can to get sites to charge tax while refusing to do what is required of them to earn that privilege.
Because you take possession of it in IL, just as if you bought it from a store there.
Stores in states with sales tax were tired of losing sales to businesses located in other states, so a federal law was passed a few years ago imposing the sales tax of the customer's state.
That's not true.
There is no federal law governing this, even though states have been pushing for it. California expects everyone to "fess up" and voluntarily pay for purchases made from out of state vendors (right!). The federal courts have ruled that if you have a physical presence in a particular state for sales, then that state may tax an out of state sale through that same company. Amazon has no physical sales presence anywhere, hence, no sales tax (states fume).
False on Amazon not charging sales tax, they charge in a few states:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...?nodeId=468512
AFIAK, if you own any kind of building in a given state, you're supposed to charge taxes for buyers in the state. I don't know for sure about the defense about physical retail presence, but Amazon might have a legal case pending about that. Maybe valid, maybe not, but Amazon did try to dodge it by saying they're owned and operated by unrelated subsidiaries.
The states with sales taxes would save themselves a lot of hassle if they harmonized their tax codes. From what I've read, a major reason that the Supreme Court denied this was that each state (and some cities) has their own definition of what is taxable. So far that I know, they really haven't even taken that matter seriously.