Showtime With the Apollo on 01/20/02 (that's 20/01/02 to the Europeans)
NMR (aka, the Gay Blade) sez 1/20 for the G4 Apollo Powermac.
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SdC
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Well it would not surprise me at all if they were just 'bumped' like the Powerbooks were. Apple does not need to do a media event to announce speed bumped Powermacs. G5's maybe but not a speed bumped G4.
Bring it on Apple and for the love of God please offer an affordable dual machine.
<strong>I'm assuming that he means the week of Jan 20. Still sounds kinda soon to me. The Crystal Clear promotion doesn't even end until 1/31.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Doesn't really matter when the promotion ends if the computers are no longer being made or sold anywhere.
At 1.4Ghz, it would almost have to be Apollo manufactured using HiP7(re: 0.13µ and SOI).
We do know that Motorola has been manufacuring embedded processor cores using HiP7 since April, 2001.(press release 4/9/01) How much experience using HiP7 would Motorola need before using this process in a much larger cpu?
How long do you think Apple has been working a a revised motherboard incorporating DDRsdram? I've been hearing that the next motherboard would incorporate DDR since the end of 2000.
Hope it finally happens. Only 6+ days.
So I'd go for the 22nd.
That's also the day many, many state schools start.
Andrew
The iMacs are already eating G4 sales...only the idiots are actually out there buying G4 PowerMacs right now...Apple could have announced the G4 Apollo and said it would start shipping at the end of January...unless of course on Jan 20 Apple will tell us to wait one or two more months for the new PowerMacs.
So why didn't Apple announce this speed bump at MW? It doesn't make sense. And like I said, the speed bump would not have stolen the iMac's spotlight.
Good night...you're all stoopid!
SdC
<strong>But the G4 Apollo aka Shitty-G4-Speed-Bump could have been announced at MW and it wouldn't have stolen the show.
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I think the message implicit in the G4 iMac announcement is that "You, the home user, can now do everything at home that the pros do. You don't need 'pro hardware'." I think it would have undercut the iMac's impact to simultaneously announce systems that were considerably more powerful.
I don't see what this angst is about ... obviously new machines are on the way. Then again, I don't see why Apple insists on being this cagey either. A simple "Apple to debut new PowerMacs 1/22" announcement would have cooled people out while still letting Apple put on another dog-and-pony extravaganza.
<strong>It's not just a speed bump: It's a speed bump and mobo revision.
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I would hope that it is a mobo revision, but I still haven't seen anything outside of these boards (post-MWSF) that speaks to an updated mobo, just a flurry of MHz predictions based on the G4/Apollo.
It's doubtful that the promo would include the speed-bumped towers, so you would have to wait until after the promo ends to annouce. If you announce a new tower is coming before it ends, everyone will wait for the new tower, hence defeating the point of having a promo at all.
Of course, promos do almost without exception, herald the coming of new models. They're designed to clear inventory and help soften the blow to people who bought the old stuff right before the new stuff came out. They may not have the newest hardware, but at least they got a good deal on the old stuff.
From the "Terms and Conditions" part of the "Crystal Clear" coupon:
Apple reserves the right to change the Terms and Conditions or end the offer at any time without notice
This basically means that they could end the promotion on the date that the new ones come out, if it is before January 31st, or change the "Terms and Conditions" such that it only applies to the older models, and ride it out until the 31st.
So, basically what I"m trying to say is that the end date really has no bearing here, it's basically just a number the apple marketting department picks based on what the kids in hardware are telling them. I.E. "We'll have the new towers ready by the end of january."
ciao,
michael
If they introduce new hardware even before the current promotion expires, the new hardware wouldn't be eligible.
<strong>I still don't get it. Apple will announce a new G4 tower on Jan 22, with a week still to go on the Crystal Clear promo? THat doesn't make any sense.
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Every promotion that Apple runs lists the specific model numbers that the promotion is applicable to. Therefore, if Apple introduces new models, those models will undoubtedly not be the same and therefore not part of the promotion. Also, why not continue to run the promo after the new models are introduced? If the old models are still in the channel, the promotion is even more important to clear the channel.
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I would hope that it is a mobo revision, but I still haven't seen anything outside of these boards (post-MWSF) that speaks to an updated mobo, just a flurry of MHz predictions based on the G4/Apollo.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, NMR says 1.4 GHz range, which is >10x 133 MHz. So if they stick with PC133, it's not going to run much faster than current ones due to the memory bottleneck.
1.97 GHz, 1.33 GHz and 1.46 GHz are 4.5, 5.0, and 5.5 times 266 MHz, respectively. 6.0x is 1.6 GHz. Those seem to be reasonable multipliers for that speed range, so DDR seems a lock, at least.
I hope Apple goes completely nuts and makes the mobo 400 MHz, which would mean way faster chips (>2.0 GHz) in the near future (as in G5). Even 266 will solve a lot of memory bandwidth problems, though, so I won't bitch if they come in at that speed.