The installing of Windows is easier in my opinion than OS X. Vista and Windows 7 alike. In OS X if you have a blank (due to replacement of hard disk) you have extra steps that call for opening Disk Util where as with Windows its seamless in the fact that you can choose to install to a blank unpartioned disk and Windows will do that for you. With Windows 7 that is your only big question besides agreeing to a license agreement (same as OS X). You provide your product key when you start Windows 7 for the first time or anytime before activation. I'm just saying the Apple could make is simpler as well, including allowing resizing and partition manipulation like Windows does without wanting to delete partitions.
Missing from the Windows 7 installer:
[1] The ability to customise the install. Mac OS X lets you choose as many (or few) languages as you'd like, X11, BSD Subsystem etc.
[2] An estimate of how long left in minutes, not percent, which is basically useless. Incidently the Mac has offered this feature since at least 1999 when I first used a Mac.
[3] A detailed log to watch what is happening during the install. Again this was in the installer for OS X 10.0.
Hell I even talked to them. I sent in a report to M$ from my Windoze 7. I told them nothing could get W7 to print to my networked printer until I installed Apple's Bonjour. Bonjour worked like a charm. As did iTunes, QuickTime and Safari. I suggested they ship these items with W7.
#2) WiFi & Bluetooth. Again, a half effort from Apple. There is no way to turn these devices into "Airplane Mode" or Off without going into device manager. Luckily Windows Vista and later have a method to turn of WiFi, but not Bluetooth. Sure it might be easy to blame on Windows, but Microsoft has historically allowed manufactures to develop their own solutions alot of which rely on hardware switches. It wouldn't be hard for Apple to make their Macs the best Windows computers by allowing a software switch that doesn't rely on the device manager. The device manager is used for permenantly disabling hardware, debuging, or updating drivers and as such turning off Bluetooth or Wifi there will cause your settings to be erased.
It's not Apple's responsibility to lead the way by writing special software to make up for Windows inadequacies. They'll give you a premium experience in OS X. Bootcamp is there for compatibility, it's not to provide a premium Windows experience.
It's not Apple's responsibility to lead the way by writing special software to make up for Windows inadequacies. They'll give you a premium experience in OS X. Bootcamp is there for compatibility, it's not to provide a premium Windows experience.
This is not special software. In fact every OEM or Wifi/Bluetooth creator has their own solution espeically consider the most of its a hardware switch nothing Microsoft could code for in advance short of creating a standard. Which is impossible as new techonlogies such as WiMax constantly emerge but they still need a custom solution to follow the LAW on board aircraft or other situations.
The fact is on board aircraft, I would be unable to run Windows without going into device manager and disabling bluetooth. Again, every other OEM has a toggle for this. I understand Apple is different, but it would probably have taken them 30 minutes most.
Why not preinstalling windows 7 on all Apple computers?! This could be a very basic yet powerfull version. Skipping the media center but with improved security and performance optimised to the Apple gear.
[1] The ability to customise the install. Mac OS X lets you choose as many (or few) languages as you'd like, X11, BSD Subsystem etc.
[2] An estimate of how long left in minutes, not percent, which is basically useless. Incidently the Mac has offered this feature since at least 1999 when I first used a Mac.
[3] A detailed log to watch what is happening during the install. Again this was in the installer for OS X 10.0.
#1 I do agree the Language selection can be better but the fact is Windows is licensed per langauge and I can't switch English to Norwegian. The only other thing is selecting X11 and Printer Drivers. Windows installs all drivers for future compatibility and doesn't have something akin to X11 and or BSD (well it did back in the Windows 3.1-ME days with DOS) and Leopard doesn't have BSD Subsystem as an option, I don't think. Vista Ultimate lets you download languages after the fact. This is really a mute point overall as the Windows method of less dialogs or options is more simple and allows less confusion. Power users can heavily alter Windows after the fact or use command switches or automated setup.
#2 The OS X estimator is pure useless. I'm my use I have seen it start out small then get larger the first few minutes and then remove minutes at the end. Windows XP also had a minute countdown that was fairly accurate but the new installer is actually quicker so it doesn't bother me. Again its very gimicky and percentage is more accurate than time. Knowing your 70% done is more useful than the lie that you have 10 minutes left. Because generally you're either 12min or 8min.
#3 Windows does operate detalied logs, but they are hidden from the end users. Again IT people know where to find these logs or as I mentioned before use automated installation the puts the log where they want it and can then customize windows.
I find the current installation manner to be simple and will work well for the majority. I still stand that the current Windows setup is more simple and including the partioning tools specifically by letting you select a blank hard drive is more simple and more useful than an estimator that doesn't work or staring at logs when you can easily dive into them after the effect if the install doesn't work. I don't think most people care and will just come back to their computer in 30 minutes time.
#2 The OS X estimator is pure useless. I'm my use I have seen it start out small then get larger the first few minutes and then remove minutes at the end. Windows XP also had a minute countdown that was fairly accurate but the new installer is actually quicker so it doesn't bother me. Again its very gimicky and percentage is more accurate than time. Knowing your 70% done is more useful than the lie that you have 10 minutes left. Because generally you're either 12min or 8min.
The level of effort to try and justify this amuses me greatly.
70% is pure useless if you don't know how long that 70% took.
It's even worse — you only get told 70% of a particular stage, with no context for how long this stage takes in relation to the whole install.
In my experience of installing OS X, the estimate is very accurate. It will take away minutes at the beginning whilst is establishes copy speeds etc. after that its always correct to around a minute or so. I.e. If it says 18 minutes at the start, you're normally restarting in 18 minutes.
Also the custom install dialog requires a separate button to be clicked. By default the installer does a simple click through upgrade.
Also OS X verifies optical media can be all read before ploughing ahead regardless.
In short:
OS X combines power and elegance. If you want a simple click through you can, if you want logs, customisation and partitioning it's also easy, no IT person required.
Its makes simple things easy and complex things possible.
The level of effort to try and justify this amuses me greatly.
70% is pure useless if you don't know how long that 70% took.
It's even worse ? you only get told 70% of a particular stage, with no context for how long this stage takes in relation to the whole install.
In my experience of installing OS X, the estimate is very accurate. It will take away minutes at the beginning whilst is establishes copy speeds etc. after that its always correct to around a minute or so. I.e. If it says 18 minutes at the start, you're normally restarting in 18 minutes.
Also the custom install dialog requires a separate button to be clicked. By default the installer does a simple click through upgrade.
Also OS X verifies optical media can be all read before ploughing ahead regardless.
In short:
OS X combines power and elegance. If you want a simple click through you can, if you want logs, customisation and partitioning it's also easy, no IT person required.
Its makes simple things easy and complex things possible.
70% is never useless unless you didn't happen to be there when you started the install. In fact Windows uses check marks in addition to a general progress bar at the bottom so you always know where you are. I'm glad you found the OS X time to be reliable, I have found its quite off. I'm sorry most people don't stare at it for 5 minutes so it can figure out how fast its moving along, in fact most people would probably even leave during the disk verification.
Also I wanted to add for people install Windows on a Mac, that my support agent just told me that if you hit Shift + F10 after you select something, it will right click on that item. If you have a laptop you may have to hit FN+Shift+F10 depending on your settings. This is a workaround if you have right click issues.
70% is never useless unless you didn't happen to be there when you started the install.
But the 70% only relates to the current part of the install (e.g copying files…)
And it doesn't just require you to be there at the start of the install.
It also requires you to remember what time it was, work out the time elapsed and then work out the percentages to get the time remaining.
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Originally Posted by UltimateKylie
In fact Windows uses check marks in addition to a general progress bar at the bottom so you always know where you are.
Well, there is a green bar and although it is proportional it only updates three times during the install, and it doesn't help with telling you how long is left.
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Originally Posted by UltimateKylie
I'm sorry most people don't stare at it for 5 minutes so it can figure out how fast its moving along
And with the Mac they don't have to, they can just glance at the time and walk away.
No math required.
No offence intended, but when your in a hole, this best idea is to stop digging.
70% is never useless unless you didn't happen to be there when you started the install. In fact Windows uses check marks in addition to a general progress bar at the bottom so you always know where you are. I'm glad you found the OS X time to be reliable, I have found its quite off.
I have to agree with you on this. I'd rather see the percentage of what is complete so far a neither system has shown to be competent in making an accurate time until finished statement. Even when the install has finished it still takes several minutes for the finalization/optimation to complete, which, IMO, should be part of the time until finished. I understand the difficulties in determining such time on the fly and it's not really a big deal so I don't really expect to see any real effort put forth in making it more accurate.
Just a caveat that while the beta is stable, not everything works as well as you might except. Any games using Punkbuster are problematic, and understadably so. Also, if you're using the 64-bit version some applications won't work - for example Google Chrome and Daemon Tools (or any other similar program I've tried). Also, sleep mode doesn't work well.
I don't want to be all negative, and I can add that if you're not planning on playing certain games and are looking for basic compatibility, or just want to check out Windows 7, you will probably appreciate some of the niceties and usability features.
Vista SP1 has full UEFI 2.0 support and because that's the newest standard I think it's valid to say that Windows does fully support EFI. And what sense does it make to try to install a 32bit version on to an EFI-system?
The Apple platform is now not different than any other EFI PC platform.
But yeah, i'm just a regular troll...
I'm with you. In general, I'm finding many articles here very biased. Still, some decent info can be found as well.
Personally, I'm interested in Mac so this is good way to learn things about that line of products, but also about community.
I love Boot Camp. VM software sticks it's tenticles in to my kernel and leaves daemons running even when I'm not using a VM. The two things alone are enough to make me use Boot Camp instead.
Oh my, what an unprofessional article. Sorry to say but it's just the truth. Is it because of misinformation or a simple strategy so that Windows does look worse than it might be?
Windows Vista and 7 does support the same EFI in their 64bit versions.
Windows 7 installation is exactly the same as Vista's since more than 2 years.
Surprise! PC makers do not ask for installing any drivers. They are already installed! Well isn't this the main reason to buy a PC system with Windows pre installed?
On the other hand: if you install Windows for yourself you also don't have to even start an installation because Windows automatically downloads and installs drivers for almost every device out there. And only Anti Virus apps would need a reboot. Sound, graphics and web drivers do not need a reboot. Because these components aren't part of the kernel.
Ouch. How can this be possible? How can a newer OS be more compatible to old hardware? It's impossible. But what's really the case is that there are more drivers for Vista out there now and Windows 7 does use almost the same driver model. Not the OS has to be compatible but the drivers have to be!
No! Please check your facts. It wasn't a "recommendation" but the default setting. So you always had to disable to install a browser just to get updates for iTunes! Only malware does behave like this. That was the problem and Apple has silently changed it.
Oh, please don't go that way. It's so childish and wrong until you provide an objective view of what really was copied by the two companies.
I agree... If you hate windows so much do not write an article about how to get it's new OS on a mac please. Windows copied os x.... What year was quick launch available again? Updating usability of an existing feature... Is copying in what way?
Does anyone know if you have to go through the convoluted reformatting option that he describes on page 1 with Fista?
I have a hardcore Winblows friend who is just about ready to come into the light because I have convinced him that BootCamp is his safety blanket. However, I don't to have to walk him through this confusing process of reformatting because the installer says that you cannot install Winblows on that partition. I'm afraid I'll lose another potential convert.
Windows 7 is not a new Windows but the Vista that it should have been and this report says it's still just as slow at some important tasks, if not slower than Vista:
It is still beta but the core design is still the same so will have a number of the same flaws.
I do think that although it takes a few cues from OS X's designs, the interface is still a mess. Too much transparency in all the wrong places and no thought put into the layout. Still navigating drives by random letters.
The multi-touch looks like it's not going to be very consistent or overly useful:
but it will probably be refined and will likely work better on a tablet device. The OS really needs to have better design for it though and the whole window-shift when the scrollbar hits the limits look really bad vs an internal bounce.
I don't see anything but useless features mired in a messy interface just like Windows has always been and nothing that would make me want to move from OS X. If Apple make Snow Leopard faster than Leopard with some other nice additions for computation, it's going to look very nice relative to it. Then Apple can do a multi-touch desktop when the hardware/software interaction is at a point where it makes sense on the desktop.
I tried to install Windows 7 twice now on my 24" iMac. Both times it ended in a blue screen of death. I beat my head against it long enough. I don't need to run Windows that badly.
I have a 20" aluminum iMac with Mac OS 10.5.6. I have the Apple wireless keyboard and a USB turntable. I got Windows 7 Beta to install okay. Windows refuses to recognize my iMac audio. It thinks I have USB speakers. Also, if I install the Boot Camp add ons from the DVD, the bluetooth keyboard does not work at all. I had to reinstall Windows and use it without the Boot Camp add ons from the DVD. They keyboard is okay as Windows runs an emulator. Also, I am using a USB mouse. I like Windows. It doesn't make me a bad Mac person. I simply want to use Windows some of the time. Once in a while there is a piece of software that just isn't available for Mac OS X. So for now, Windows 7 Beta works, but with no sound. I hope someone can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong, or not doing.
I have a 20" aluminum iMac with Mac OS 10.5.6. I have the Apple wireless keyboard and a USB turntable. I got Windows 7 Beta to install okay. Windows refuses to recognize my iMac audio. It thinks I have USB speakers. Also, if I install the Boot Camp add ons from the DVD, the bluetooth keyboard does not work at all. I had to reinstall Windows and use it without the Boot Camp add ons from the DVD. They keyboard is okay as Windows runs an emulator. Also, I am using a USB mouse. I like Windows. It doesn't make me a bad Mac person. I simply want to use Windows some of the time. Once in a while there is a piece of software that just isn't available for Mac OS X. So for now, Windows 7 Beta works, but with no sound. I hope someone can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong, or not doing.
Go to System Profiler in OS X to see what your speaker HW is so you can then go to the manufacturer's site to grab the correct driver.
Do a manual install of the drivers for Windows off the Boot Camp disc, sans the BT drivers.
PS: Why didn't you install the 64-bit version of Win7?
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The installing of Windows is easier in my opinion than OS X. Vista and Windows 7 alike. In OS X if you have a blank (due to replacement of hard disk) you have extra steps that call for opening Disk Util where as with Windows its seamless in the fact that you can choose to install to a blank unpartioned disk and Windows will do that for you. With Windows 7 that is your only big question besides agreeing to a license agreement (same as OS X). You provide your product key when you start Windows 7 for the first time or anytime before activation. I'm just saying the Apple could make is simpler as well, including allowing resizing and partition manipulation like Windows does without wanting to delete partitions.
Missing from the Windows 7 installer:
[1] The ability to customise the install. Mac OS X lets you choose as many (or few) languages as you'd like, X11, BSD Subsystem etc.
[2] An estimate of how long left in minutes, not percent, which is basically useless. Incidently the Mac has offered this feature since at least 1999 when I first used a Mac.
[3] A detailed log to watch what is happening during the install. Again this was in the installer for OS X 10.0.
Never heard of "know thy enemy"?
Hell I even talked to them. I sent in a report to M$ from my Windoze 7. I told them nothing could get W7 to print to my networked printer until I installed Apple's Bonjour. Bonjour worked like a charm. As did iTunes, QuickTime and Safari. I suggested they ship these items with W7.
#2) WiFi & Bluetooth. Again, a half effort from Apple. There is no way to turn these devices into "Airplane Mode" or Off without going into device manager. Luckily Windows Vista and later have a method to turn of WiFi, but not Bluetooth. Sure it might be easy to blame on Windows, but Microsoft has historically allowed manufactures to develop their own solutions alot of which rely on hardware switches. It wouldn't be hard for Apple to make their Macs the best Windows computers by allowing a software switch that doesn't rely on the device manager. The device manager is used for permenantly disabling hardware, debuging, or updating drivers and as such turning off Bluetooth or Wifi there will cause your settings to be erased.
It's not Apple's responsibility to lead the way by writing special software to make up for Windows inadequacies. They'll give you a premium experience in OS X. Bootcamp is there for compatibility, it's not to provide a premium Windows experience.
It's not Apple's responsibility to lead the way by writing special software to make up for Windows inadequacies. They'll give you a premium experience in OS X. Bootcamp is there for compatibility, it's not to provide a premium Windows experience.
This is not special software. In fact every OEM or Wifi/Bluetooth creator has their own solution espeically consider the most of its a hardware switch nothing Microsoft could code for in advance short of creating a standard. Which is impossible as new techonlogies such as WiMax constantly emerge but they still need a custom solution to follow the LAW on board aircraft or other situations.
The fact is on board aircraft, I would be unable to run Windows without going into device manager and disabling bluetooth. Again, every other OEM has a toggle for this. I understand Apple is different, but it would probably have taken them 30 minutes most.
Never heard of "know thy enemy"?
Or, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer!"
Here is an article explaining the many versions of Windows 7, and how only two will be available at retail.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340311,00.asp
Why not preinstalling windows 7 on all Apple computers?! This could be a very basic yet powerfull version. Skipping the media center but with improved security and performance optimised to the Apple gear.
It's a winwin for both.
Missing from the Windows 7 installer:
[1] The ability to customise the install. Mac OS X lets you choose as many (or few) languages as you'd like, X11, BSD Subsystem etc.
[2] An estimate of how long left in minutes, not percent, which is basically useless. Incidently the Mac has offered this feature since at least 1999 when I first used a Mac.
[3] A detailed log to watch what is happening during the install. Again this was in the installer for OS X 10.0.
#1 I do agree the Language selection can be better but the fact is Windows is licensed per langauge and I can't switch English to Norwegian. The only other thing is selecting X11 and Printer Drivers. Windows installs all drivers for future compatibility and doesn't have something akin to X11 and or BSD (well it did back in the Windows 3.1-ME days with DOS) and Leopard doesn't have BSD Subsystem as an option, I don't think. Vista Ultimate lets you download languages after the fact. This is really a mute point overall as the Windows method of less dialogs or options is more simple and allows less confusion. Power users can heavily alter Windows after the fact or use command switches or automated setup.
#2 The OS X estimator is pure useless. I'm my use I have seen it start out small then get larger the first few minutes and then remove minutes at the end. Windows XP also had a minute countdown that was fairly accurate but the new installer is actually quicker so it doesn't bother me. Again its very gimicky and percentage is more accurate than time. Knowing your 70% done is more useful than the lie that you have 10 minutes left. Because generally you're either 12min or 8min.
#3 Windows does operate detalied logs, but they are hidden from the end users. Again IT people know where to find these logs or as I mentioned before use automated installation the puts the log where they want it and can then customize windows.
I find the current installation manner to be simple and will work well for the majority. I still stand that the current Windows setup is more simple and including the partioning tools specifically by letting you select a blank hard drive is more simple and more useful than an estimator that doesn't work or staring at logs when you can easily dive into them after the effect if the install doesn't work. I don't think most people care and will just come back to their computer in 30 minutes time.
#2 The OS X estimator is pure useless. I'm my use I have seen it start out small then get larger the first few minutes and then remove minutes at the end. Windows XP also had a minute countdown that was fairly accurate but the new installer is actually quicker so it doesn't bother me. Again its very gimicky and percentage is more accurate than time. Knowing your 70% done is more useful than the lie that you have 10 minutes left. Because generally you're either 12min or 8min.
The level of effort to try and justify this amuses me greatly.
70% is pure useless if you don't know how long that 70% took.
It's even worse — you only get told 70% of a particular stage, with no context for how long this stage takes in relation to the whole install.
In my experience of installing OS X, the estimate is very accurate. It will take away minutes at the beginning whilst is establishes copy speeds etc. after that its always correct to around a minute or so. I.e. If it says 18 minutes at the start, you're normally restarting in 18 minutes.
Also the custom install dialog requires a separate button to be clicked. By default the installer does a simple click through upgrade.
Also OS X verifies optical media can be all read before ploughing ahead regardless.
In short:
OS X combines power and elegance. If you want a simple click through you can, if you want logs, customisation and partitioning it's also easy, no IT person required.
Its makes simple things easy and complex things possible.
The level of effort to try and justify this amuses me greatly.
70% is pure useless if you don't know how long that 70% took.
It's even worse ? you only get told 70% of a particular stage, with no context for how long this stage takes in relation to the whole install.
In my experience of installing OS X, the estimate is very accurate. It will take away minutes at the beginning whilst is establishes copy speeds etc. after that its always correct to around a minute or so. I.e. If it says 18 minutes at the start, you're normally restarting in 18 minutes.
Also the custom install dialog requires a separate button to be clicked. By default the installer does a simple click through upgrade.
Also OS X verifies optical media can be all read before ploughing ahead regardless.
In short:
OS X combines power and elegance. If you want a simple click through you can, if you want logs, customisation and partitioning it's also easy, no IT person required.
Its makes simple things easy and complex things possible.
70% is never useless unless you didn't happen to be there when you started the install. In fact Windows uses check marks in addition to a general progress bar at the bottom so you always know where you are. I'm glad you found the OS X time to be reliable, I have found its quite off. I'm sorry most people don't stare at it for 5 minutes so it can figure out how fast its moving along, in fact most people would probably even leave during the disk verification.
Also I wanted to add for people install Windows on a Mac, that my support agent just told me that if you hit Shift + F10 after you select something, it will right click on that item. If you have a laptop you may have to hit FN+Shift+F10 depending on your settings. This is a workaround if you have right click issues.
70% is never useless unless you didn't happen to be there when you started the install.
But the 70% only relates to the current part of the install (e.g copying files…)
And it doesn't just require you to be there at the start of the install.
It also requires you to remember what time it was, work out the time elapsed and then work out the percentages to get the time remaining.
In fact Windows uses check marks in addition to a general progress bar at the bottom so you always know where you are.
Well, there is a green bar and although it is proportional it only updates three times during the install, and it doesn't help with telling you how long is left.
I'm sorry most people don't stare at it for 5 minutes so it can figure out how fast its moving along
And with the Mac they don't have to, they can just glance at the time and walk away.
No math required.
No offence intended, but when your in a hole, this best idea is to stop digging.
70% is never useless unless you didn't happen to be there when you started the install. In fact Windows uses check marks in addition to a general progress bar at the bottom so you always know where you are. I'm glad you found the OS X time to be reliable, I have found its quite off.
I have to agree with you on this. I'd rather see the percentage of what is complete so far a neither system has shown to be competent in making an accurate time until finished statement. Even when the install has finished it still takes several minutes for the finalization/optimation to complete, which, IMO, should be part of the time until finished. I understand the difficulties in determining such time on the fly and it's not really a big deal so I don't really expect to see any real effort put forth in making it more accurate.
I don't want to be all negative, and I can add that if you're not planning on playing certain games and are looking for basic compatibility, or just want to check out Windows 7, you will probably appreciate some of the niceties and usability features.
Vista SP1 has full UEFI 2.0 support and because that's the newest standard I think it's valid to say that Windows does fully support EFI. And what sense does it make to try to install a 32bit version on to an EFI-system?
The Apple platform is now not different than any other EFI PC platform.
But yeah, i'm just a regular troll...
I'm with you. In general, I'm finding many articles here very biased. Still, some decent info can be found as well.
Personally, I'm interested in Mac so this is good way to learn things about that line of products, but also about community.
Oh my, what an unprofessional article. Sorry to say but it's just the truth. Is it because of misinformation or a simple strategy so that Windows does look worse than it might be?
Windows Vista and 7 does support the same EFI in their 64bit versions.
Windows 7 installation is exactly the same as Vista's since more than 2 years.
Surprise! PC makers do not ask for installing any drivers. They are already installed! Well isn't this the main reason to buy a PC system with Windows pre installed?
On the other hand: if you install Windows for yourself you also don't have to even start an installation because Windows automatically downloads and installs drivers for almost every device out there. And only Anti Virus apps would need a reboot. Sound, graphics and web drivers do not need a reboot. Because these components aren't part of the kernel.
Ouch. How can this be possible? How can a newer OS be more compatible to old hardware? It's impossible. But what's really the case is that there are more drivers for Vista out there now and Windows 7 does use almost the same driver model. Not the OS has to be compatible but the drivers have to be!
No! Please check your facts. It wasn't a "recommendation" but the default setting. So you always had to disable to install a browser just to get updates for iTunes! Only malware does behave like this. That was the problem and Apple has silently changed it.
Oh, please don't go that way. It's so childish and wrong until you provide an objective view of what really was copied by the two companies.
I agree... If you hate windows so much do not write an article about how to get it's new OS on a mac please. Windows copied os x.... What year was quick launch available again? Updating usability of an existing feature... Is copying in what way?
I have a hardcore Winblows friend who is just about ready to come into the light because I have convinced him that BootCamp is his safety blanket. However, I don't to have to walk him through this confusing process of reformatting because the installer says that you cannot install Winblows on that partition. I'm afraid I'll lose another potential convert.
Thanks in advance for any replies!
http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/...lticore_4.html
It is still beta but the core design is still the same so will have a number of the same flaws.
I do think that although it takes a few cues from OS X's designs, the interface is still a mess. Too much transparency in all the wrong places and no thought put into the layout. Still navigating drives by random letters.
The multi-touch looks like it's not going to be very consistent or overly useful:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/05/w...mmick-for-now/
but it will probably be refined and will likely work better on a tablet device. The OS really needs to have better design for it though and the whole window-shift when the scrollbar hits the limits look really bad vs an internal bounce.
I don't see anything but useless features mired in a messy interface just like Windows has always been and nothing that would make me want to move from OS X. If Apple make Snow Leopard faster than Leopard with some other nice additions for computation, it's going to look very nice relative to it. Then Apple can do a multi-touch desktop when the hardware/software interaction is at a point where it makes sense on the desktop.
I have a 20" aluminum iMac with Mac OS 10.5.6. I have the Apple wireless keyboard and a USB turntable. I got Windows 7 Beta to install okay. Windows refuses to recognize my iMac audio. It thinks I have USB speakers. Also, if I install the Boot Camp add ons from the DVD, the bluetooth keyboard does not work at all. I had to reinstall Windows and use it without the Boot Camp add ons from the DVD. They keyboard is okay as Windows runs an emulator. Also, I am using a USB mouse. I like Windows. It doesn't make me a bad Mac person. I simply want to use Windows some of the time. Once in a while there is a piece of software that just isn't available for Mac OS X. So for now, Windows 7 Beta works, but with no sound. I hope someone can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong, or not doing.
Go to System Profiler in OS X to see what your speaker HW is so you can then go to the manufacturer's site to grab the correct driver.
Do a manual install of the drivers for Windows off the Boot Camp disc, sans the BT drivers.
PS: Why didn't you install the 64-bit version of Win7?