Photo of next-gen Apple Mac mini in the wild?

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  • Reply 181 of 221
    wigginwiggin Posts: 2,265member
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    Originally Posted by au5lander View Post


    if not using BT keyboard/mouse, that's 2, plus a printer, 3, that leaves only 2 left for cameras/card readers/etc.



    And don't forget your iPhone and iPod. One for each so you can charge them at the same time. And you'll need a 3rd for your shuffle (for the gym) which doesn't use the dock connector and you won't want to have to be swapping cables!
  • Reply 182 of 221
    I have a feeling that this is going to be the low-end, bare bone version (pic in article) The same idea as having two different Macbook models. the white (old) and unibody (new)



    its going to look exactly the same as the current model with the exception of the added USB port and FW800. this will be the low,low end computer that apple sales.



    The NEW mac mini will have a brand new design to match everything else. It will have the new invidia chipset, and an intel core 2 duo CPU pumping out the same speed as the new macbooks. DDR3 RAM, new display port, and the ability to add another drive if one desires to. it will priced maybe around the current models, or a little higher



    maybe the apple logo will even glow this time.......
  • Reply 183 of 221
    I'm going to say it for the third time...I think this pic is real.



    Now one of the only things that annoys me about the current Mac mini is that it's a bitch to get into. I hope that Apple is planning on creating a Cube-like (or even easier) way of getting to the innards.



    I bet the low-end $599 version will be 2.0GHz/2GB RAM/120GB HD; the high-end version will be 2.4GHz/2GB RAM/250GB HD; optional 320GB HD, optional 4GB RAM. Both models will have a Superdrive.
  • Reply 184 of 221
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by click View Post


    The new Mac mini to be successful in the market must have:



    1. New chipset architecture with higher system bus & faster memory for HD 1080p capabilities (Montevina or Calpella).

    2. Better graphic card with PCIe bus, more graphic memory & 3D acceleration capabilities (Nvidia)

    3. 7200rpm Hard Disk drive.

    4. WiFI 802.11n

    5. Firewire 800

    6. HDMI output

    7. Bluray disk drive

    8. Revolutionary new design.



    Would be nice also to have if the cost can stay at relatively low levels.



    1. CPU with at least 2,33GHz clock speed & 4MB cache memory.

    2. Bluray recorder disk drive

    3. eSATA interface

    4. Solid State hard disk

    5. WiMAX wireless interface

    5. Smaller dimensions



    5 USB ports are not that important to have, since you can use an external USB hub and upgrade the number of ports to anything you want. Mini DVI is useful to save space for other ports but not necessary. Mac mini is an entry level machine after all, but should have good enough HTPC capabilities and mobility.



    I don’t think that the Mac mini on the picture is going to gain a big market share.



    Dream on... Lets not forget this is a $599/$799 computer. The features you want on a new Mac would cost around $2000-2500.



    Blu-ray isn't going to be installed on a $599 Mac. Solidstate HD again isn't going to make it into a $599 computer. Both technologies are way too expensive at this point and Apple isn't about to install a blu-ray drive into a MacMini so people can buy blu-ray movies instead of using the iTunes Movie Store. Also, it would be another license Apple would have to pay just to put the blu-ray drive and make OS X compatible with the technology. Blu-ray isn't a free technology you know....



    USB ports are far more important than FW ports are. The lack of USB ports has always been a complaint of the Mac. Making people buy a hub is a crappy way around it IMO. There's no reason not to put more USB ports on today's Macs. I believe the MacMini is geared more toward switchers than anything, most of which want USB ports because they're used to seeing at least 4 or 5 on any given PC these days.



    I think there comes a point where the computer is too small. The smaller the computer the more problems it creates. You have to have Apple either design a special cooling system and/or not upgrade the CPU as fast as other products.
  • Reply 185 of 221
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    Originally Posted by DHagan4755 View Post


    I'm going to say it for the third time...I think this pic is real.



    Now one of the only things that annoys me about the current Mac mini is that it's a bitch to get into. I hope that Apple is planning on creating a Cube-like (or even easier) way of getting to the innards.



    I bet the low-end $599 version will be 2.0GHz/2GB RAM/120GB HD; the high-end version will be 2.4GHz/2GB RAM/250GB HD; optional 320GB HD, optional 4GB RAM. Both models will have a Superdrive.



    Would be nice to see, but creating easy access to the insides isn't always a great thing for Apple. It gives people more incentive to do things they wouldn't normally do or attempt. Then if something get broken Apple has more warranty claims and/or more crap to deal with as far as arguing with customers whether or not something was broken as a result of what the customer was doing. I gotta believe this is one of the reasons why Apple stopped making the flat panel iMac so the rear panel came completely off.
  • Reply 186 of 221
    Regarding the firewire port, remember that there are plenty of people out there using Mac Minis as servers, often chaining a bunch of them together via FireWire to serve as a cluster, just like people have done with PowerMacs and Mac Pros.
  • Reply 187 of 221
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,305member
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    Originally Posted by vandil View Post


    Regarding the firewire port, remember that there are plenty of people out there using Mac Minis as servers, often chaining a bunch of them together via FireWire to serve as a cluster, just like people have done with PowerMacs and Mac Pros.



    You could use gigabit ethernet just as easy....
  • Reply 188 of 221
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    Originally Posted by macxpress View Post


    Dream on... Lets not forget this is a $599/$799 computer. The features you want on a new Mac would cost around $2000-2500.



    Blu-ray isn't going to be installed on a $599 Mac. Solidstate HD again isn't going to make it into a $599 computer. Both technologies are way too expensive at this point and Apple isn't about to install a blu-ray drive into a MacMini so people can buy blu-ray movies instead of using the iTunes Movie Store. Also, it would be another license Apple would have to pay just to put the blu-ray drive and make OS X compatible with the technology. Blu-ray isn't a free technology you know....



    USB ports are far more important than FW ports are. The lack of USB ports has always been a complaint of the Mac. Making people buy a hub is a crappy way around it IMO. There's no reason not to put more USB ports on today's Macs. I believe the MacMini is geared more toward switchers than anything, most of which want USB ports because they're used to seeing at least 4 or 5 on any given PC these days.



    I think there comes a point where the computer is too small. The smaller the computer the more problems it creates. You have to have Apple either design a special cooling system and/or not upgrade the CPU as fast as other products.



    If you have noticed, I distinguish the first 8 features from the rest 5. Those 8 will definitely not cost$2000-2500! First 5 are all common to almost all new inexpensive computers as well as to the new Macbooks (except FW). I don't think that Firewire and HDMI port will increase the total cost that much. As for the Blue-ray drive, many not very expensive laptops from other manufactures already use it and within the next months prices for those drives are going to drop significantly. I don't think that all those 8 features are such unrealistic for a product pricing less than 1000$. If Apple decide not to use Blue-ray drives, this is going to happen for other than cost reasons.



    As for the latest 5 features, I am not expecting to see them right now on Mac mini. But as technology goes further so quickly and prices drop, it will not be impressing to see some of them in the near future even as options.



    On my Mac mini I have 9 USB devices connected, using external Hubs. 4 or 5 integrated ports doesn't make much difference, you will need the external hub anyway if you use your Mini as a desktop computer. But for this desktop use, at least 1 Firewire is really important if you want to connect external drives and camcorders especially when dealing with video editing as I do. I definitely prefer less USB ports for having space for other ports like FW, HDMI etc.
  • Reply 189 of 221
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by click View Post


    The new Mac mini to be successful in the market must have:



    1. New chipset architecture with higher system bus & faster memory for HD 1080p capabilities (Montevina or Calpella).

    2. Better graphic card with PCIe bus, more graphic memory & 3D acceleration capabilities (Nvidia)

    3. 7200rpm Hard Disk drive.

    4. WiFI 802.11n

    5. Firewire 800

    6. HDMI output

    7. Bluray disk drive

    8. Revolutionary new design.



    1. Probably will happen.

    2. The Mac Mini always has lesser graphic capabilities. It's a machine designed to get you to upgrade.

    3. Would love it, but not going to happen.

    4. Absolutely will happen.

    5. Absolutely will happen.

    6. Not unless they kill off Apple TV.

    7. Not going to happen. If Apple ever does Blu-Ray, it will start in the Mac Pro line.

    8. I doubt it. Maybe slightly bigger footprint to match the other square products, but that's it.
  • Reply 190 of 221
    Although I can to some extend believe that this may at some point have been a considerable prototype.



    The esthetics of it are far too outdated to be possible as they would be inconherant with the new line up. So Yea I call fake on this.



    I definetly thinking UNIBODY Mac Mini with an all or mostly aluminum exterior.
  • Reply 191 of 221
    Fake? Gizmodo and a Photoshop guy over on 9to5 think so ...



    http://i.gizmodo.com/5157263/mac-min...-declared-fake



  • Reply 193 of 221
    cu10cu10 Posts: 294member
    Where's Thinksecret when you need them.
  • Reply 194 of 221
    iposteriposter Posts: 1,560member
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    If that's a mock-up, it's a good one. Might finally be time to get a new Mac!
  • Reply 195 of 221
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,755moderator
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    Originally Posted by DaveyJJ View Post


    Fake? Gizmodo and a Photoshop guy over on 9to5 think so ...



    http://i.gizmodo.com/5157263/mac-min...-declared-fake







    This guy's reputation as a 'specialist' is now in tatters thanks to the video. I wonder how many people specialize in PCBs as well as imaging. My guess is this guy saw the port alignment, found photoshop on his machine, opened it and became a Photoshop specialist.



    Thing is, you can edit images in so many ways to make it look like artifacts are uneven but they look fine in the image. The line drawing is unreliable - if you try to draw lines on the fan ports, you'll be hard pressed to get them to go parallel. The position of the small ports isn't bad because the laptops have vertically central ports too and aesthetically it's better as it minimizes negative space, improves symmetry etc.
  • Reply 196 of 221
    wigginwiggin Posts: 2,265member
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    Originally Posted by talkshowonmute View Post


    Although I can to some extend believe that this may at some point have been a considerable prototype.



    The esthetics of it are far too outdated to be possible as they would be inconherant with the new line up. So Yea I call fake on this.



    I definetly thinking UNIBODY Mac Mini with an all or mostly aluminum exterior.



    A unibody Mac mini would be foolish, foolishly expensive, and foolishly unnecessary. A desktop computer does not need the rigidity that a portable computer needs. Weight is also not a factor. Also, the percentage of aluminum you'd have to mill out of a block (like the mini) vs a thin slab (like a laptop) would be much greater. So it would cost even more to manufacture (extra milling time, expense, energy; higher cost to recycle the greater amount of scrap that would result). The unibody construction resulted in an INCREASE in the price of the MacBook. Most poeple think the $600 base price of the mini is already to expensive to compete for switcher dollars.



    I'm not saying the mini couldn't use a facelift, but it certainly won't be unibody.
  • Reply 197 of 221
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
  • Reply 198 of 221
    wigginwiggin Posts: 2,265member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaveyJJ View Post


    Fake? Gizmodo and a Photoshop guy over on 9to5 think so ...



    http://i.gizmodo.com/5157263/mac-min...-declared-fake







    Interestingly, the parts they are saying indicate an altered photo (ie, "all of that confetti you're seeing around the ports and power plug are pretty suspect") are the parts of that EXACTLY match the current mini design and wouldn't need to be altered in the first place! So why would there be editing aritifacts in those areas that didn't need to be editted?



    Edit: Also, if you look at the real photo (instead of this cartoon transformation of the photo), you'll see that the far right USB port that he is claiming was editted in because of mis-alignment doesn't match any of the other USB ports. The shadows, highlights, and perspective angles are slightly different from each of the other four ports. Each port as you move left to right shows a slight and consistent shift in each of these parameters. So where did this "extra" port come from? It certainly wasn't cloned from one of the existing 4 ports.
  • Reply 199 of 221
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    Originally Posted by Outsider View Post


    It's real.



    Well... that's certainly interesting. I guess it boils down to whether it's real as in "to be produced and sold" or real as in a prototype of unknown status and future. Inquiring minds want to know.
  • Reply 200 of 221
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,305member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by click View Post


    If you have noticed, I distinguish the first 8 features from the rest 5. Those 8 will definitely not cost$2000-2500! First 5 are all common to almost all new inexpensive computers as well as to the new Macbooks (except FW). I don't think that Firewire and HDMI port will increase the total cost that much. As for the Blue-ray drive, many not very expensive laptops from other manufactures already use it and within the next months prices for those drives are going to drop significantly. I don't think that all those 8 features are such unrealistic for a product pricing less than 1000$. If Apple decide not to use Blue-ray drives, this is going to happen for other than cost reasons.



    As for the latest 5 features, I am not expecting to see them right now on Mac mini. But as technology goes further so quickly and prices drop, it will not be impressing to see some of them in the near future even as options.



    On my Mac mini I have 9 USB devices connected, using external Hubs. 4 or 5 integrated ports doesn't make much difference, you will need the external hub anyway if you use your Mini as a desktop computer. But for this desktop use, at least 1 Firewire is really important if you want to connect external drives and camcorders especially when dealing with video editing as I do. I definitely prefer less USB ports for having space for other ports like FW, HDMI etc.



    Some of the items you mentioned should be in the new Mac Mini. It would be silly not to include the new NVIDIA chipset with the 9400M graphics. Possibly DDR3 RAM (wouldn't be surprised if it stayed DDR2 which will make people bitch), 5 USB and 1 FW800 port should also be in there. I didn't say FW should be eliminated, I said USB ports are more important to its target audience than FW. Making people use hubs isn't the way to go.



    The other items such as a 7200RPM drive, blu-ray, HDMI port, eSATA, Solid State HDs, you won't see in a low budget Mac. The MacMini uses a notebook hard drive and Apple isn't going to spend the extra money to install a 7200 RPM notebook hard drive. It just isn't going to happen on a $599 Mac. Apple doesn't make much off the MacMini as it is anyways. HDMI would require a licensing fee, same goes with blu-ray. Again a low budget Mac here isn't going to have these extra cost items installed. I'll re-iterate with blu-ray, Apple isn't going to take a small computer they KNOW is used on big screen TVs and put a blu-ray drive in it so people can buy blu-ray movies instead of getting movies off the iTunes Movie Store. Also remember the MacMini will require a slim slot-loading blu-ray drive, which isn't cheap compared to others. Like someone else said, if any Mac gets blu-ray it will be the MacPro for professional use (blu-ray authoring).
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