Force Feedback in 10.2.3

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in macOS edited January 2014
In a French thread on some other board, someone points out two kernel extensions that end with "ForceFeedback" in their names - one of them starts with "Logitech". Unless Apple decides to remove this feature in the final release - for stability reasons, or whatever - , that probably means we'll have Force Feedback with the next minor update.



I'm curios. 10.2.2 brought Journaling and 10.2.3 may bring Force Feedback. With these minor updates actually adding completely new features, does that mean 10.3 will not have any new features at all, or does it mean it'll have even more new features (64-bit support, FireWire2/USB2 support, Metadata file system standard ?)?
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  • Reply 1 of 23
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    you know what forcefeedback means, yes ?



    It's a physical feedback for Joysticks.



    duh
  • Reply 2 of 23
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    [quote]Originally posted by Defiant:

    <strong>you know what forcefeedback means, yes ?



    It's a physical feedback for Joysticks.



    duh</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yes. What's your point now?
  • Reply 3 of 23
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    [quote]Originally posted by Chucker:

    <strong>In a French thread on some other board, someone points out two kernel extensions that end with "ForceFeedback" in their names - one of them starts with "Logitech".</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not true.



    Edit: Ups! It's in the latest seed and the kext labeled as: Fo



    [ 11-30-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</p>
  • Reply 4 of 23
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    What's happening here?



    I can't edit properly



    What I'm trying to say is, that there is a kext described as a Force Feedback Driver PlugIn for Logitech Devices.



    There is also an Apple made Force Feedback framework.



    [ 11-30-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</p>
  • Reply 5 of 23
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    [quote]Originally posted by Chucker:

    <strong>



    Yes. What's your point now?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    what's so great about it anyway ?
  • Reply 6 of 23
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    [quote]Originally posted by Defiant:

    <strong>what's so great about it anyway ?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Think of Cybersex.
  • Reply 7 of 23
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    [quote]Originally posted by Quick:

    <strong>



    Think of Cybersex. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    Actually, my point was that I'm surprised Apple is adding features with point releases. That's quite unusual (and not necessarily a good idea).
  • Reply 8 of 23
    keshkesh Posts: 621member
    Actually, I would be quite happy if they simply dropped it into the next point release.
  • Reply 9 of 23
    bogiebogie Posts: 407member
    Its bad for Apple to add minor features in point releases?



    Journaling isn't minor but officially its not support in 10.2.2 client, only Server, so that example really doesn't count.



    10.1.1, 10.1.2, 10.1.3, 10.1.4, 10.1.5 all added more support for printers, CD-RW drives, and other peripherals as well as video enhancements.



    This is kinda normal, why do you think its a bad idea all of a sudden?



    And seriously, 10.3 is at least 9 months off, but that aside, do you really think that Apple is so short sighted that they are stripping out "killer" features like "force feedback" from 10.3 in order to make 10.2.3 really rock?



    I think not.



    [please note use of sarcasm where appropriate]
  • Reply 10 of 23
    pbpb Posts: 4,233member
    [quote]Originally posted by Bogie:

    <strong>



    And seriously, 10.3 is at least 9 months off



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    How do you know that? Do you have some info or are you speculating based on previous OS X release timeframes?
  • Reply 11 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by Bogie:

    <strong>And seriously, 10.3 is at least 9 months off </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Are you going to have to pay for that too?
  • Reply 12 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by Mac Man 020581:

    <strong>Are you going to have to pay for that too?</strong><hr></blockquote>Uh, why wouldn't you?



    Windows users have to pay for every major upgrade.

    Classic Mac OS users had to pay for each major upgrade too.



    Don't like that? Switch to something free like Linux, then.



    [ 12-02-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
  • Reply 13 of 23
    rogue27rogue27 Posts: 607member
    [quote]Originally posted by Defiant:

    <strong>



    what's so great about it anyway ?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Go to a gaming site. Many people have been begging for force feedback support since 10.0.
  • Reply 14 of 23
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    alright... <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />
  • Reply 15 of 23
    rogue27rogue27 Posts: 607member
    Personally, I don't think it's a big deal either, but some people seem to really want it.



    I suppose every new feature can't be something I'll use. I mean, I certainly won't be using every CD RW drive they've added support for either, but it's always nice to see more things supported and more new features even if only certain people benefit from them.
  • Reply 16 of 23
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    [quote]Originally posted by Bogie:

    <strong>Journaling isn't minor but officially its not support in 10.2.2 client, only Server, so that example really doesn't count.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yes it does. They never claimed they'd add that feature for a 10.2.something update. Nobody would have expected them to do so. I somehow doubt that they just added that because it happened to be finished. They could have abused it for a lot of marketing hype for 10.2 server...



    [quote]10.1.1, 10.1.2, 10.1.3, 10.1.4, 10.1.5 all added more support for printers, CD-RW drives, and other peripherals as well as video enhancements.<hr></blockquote>



    That's mostly driver additions, things that happen on Windows or Linux almost everyday. *That* doesn't count.



    [quote]This is kinda normal, why do you think its a bad idea all of a sudden?<hr></blockquote>



    A point release is traditionally for fixing bugs, not for adding to the clutter.



    [quote][please note use of sarcasm where appropriate]<hr></blockquote>



    Americans and sarcasm?
  • Reply 17 of 23
    akacakac Posts: 511member
    You forget something.



    Back in Classic Mac OS days, Apple would release 7.5, 7.6 or 8.1, 8.5, 8.6. Apple doesn't do that any longer.



    Apple releases 10.2.1 and 10.2.2 and 10.2.3 instead. This keeps them at the "X" moniker for a lot longer.
  • Reply 18 of 23
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    [quote]Originally posted by Akac:

    <strong>

    Back in Classic Mac OS days, Apple would release 7.5, 7.6 or 8.1, 8.5, 8.6. Apple doesn't do that any longer.

    Apple releases 10.2.1 and 10.2.2 and 10.2.3 instead. This keeps them at the "X" moniker for a lot longer.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Because OS 10(X) is not a continuation of OS 9, just skip the first two numbers. We're having system version 2.2 as of now.
  • Reply 19 of 23
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    You know posts like that make me really glad my experience with 10.0.x was limited to five minutes of tinkering around before upgrading to 10.1.



  • Reply 20 of 23
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Feh. Kids. Ya shoulda been there when all we had was Rhapsody DR1 and we were *thankful* for it, I tell ya!
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